I was about to get back into PE, but the wife just vetoed it. It already hurts her too much, she says. I'm still allowed to use an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to make it bigger while soft, but she won't let me do anything to make it bigger while hard because it already hurts her too much.

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] with noose both hurt too much and the comfortstrap doesn't work on me, so I'm going to try the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG combination and see how that goes, and maybe also do some foreskin restoration again.

For reference I'm 7.5 BPEL, 7 NBPEL, 6 BG, 5.5 MSG, 8 BPFSL, 4 NBPFL. Doesn't sound extreme to me, but she says it's scary and hurts in a bad way.

I could lose weight and maybe get to 7.25 NBPEL or so, because the bone pressed amount gets used during sex so that wouldn't make it bigger, it would just look nicer to myself and perhaps look more dangerous to her, but that much can get used anyway.

According to the most valid medical studies, this apparently puts me in the 98.27 percentile for length, and the 99.2 percentile for girth. Which means 1.63% of men are longer, and 0.8% of men are thicker, which is hard to believe. SOURCE

I think I have been conditioned by adult entertainment, society, and comments of others to have an unhealthy and unrealistic view of my body image. I have stopped watching adult entertainment and masturbating, I think they just perpetuate it and cause other changes in the brain that make it harder to function in society socially, for myself at least. The answer is to accept myself for how I am. There is no reason to want to be bigger, when your wife says she wouldn't want it in her anymore and that it is already too painful in a bad way.

I wanted to relate this story because it puts some perspective on everything size related, for myself at least.
 
You seem to be a really good size now.

It's funny how us men obsess over being better performers in the bed and a majority of women are more concerned about pillow talk. As a man, I think it's great that we want to enhance ourselves to perform sexually better even when women tell us over and over how good the sex already is.

I would think (just like anyone else here) that increasing the size of our penises would make our partners happy when in fact it is just making us more happy which gives us more confidence to help us perform better but most women won't understand this. They don't understand why we are so obsessed with our dicks.
 
acromegaly;602425 said:
Just do it anyways lol she will accommodate

Without mentioning anything like that, she had already complained that she thinks I don't care about her opinion due to thinking she'll just get used to it. She is still small though, and says she doesn't want it to be bigger.

She has wanted me to have more confidence, and I have always wanted to be more confident and thought I would have more confidence if I was bigger. But she says she thinks I want to do PE due to being insecure and depressed.
 
That site you referenced is really cool!
So basically the idea that alot of guys have here of being 8x6 would put them in the top 99th percentile of penis size in both categories.

With a Length of 8 inches that would put him in the 99.67% largest category and if 1000 guys were in a room then only 3!!! would be bigger.

With a girth of 6 inches that would put him in the 99.2% largest category and if 1000 guys were in a room then only 8 would be bigger.

The site even stated that the length measurements were bone pressed and that mentally helped me alot. I always assume they dont do it bone pressed and my head plays tricks on me.

WOW! Puts things in perspective better than anything else I have seen for me.

Thanks for posting that man!!
 
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Yah very cool site. I wonder how accurate that is? I'm in the 90s on both and I would just call myself slightly above average at 7x5.5
 
Stuff_;602414 said:
I was about to get back into PE, but the wife just vetoed it. It already hurts her too much

If it already hurts her too much, that should be a big confidence booster for you. If you make it bigger it is only going to hurt her more and I promise you this, the less sex you'll have and you will be more miserable. As crazy as it may sound, it could come to a point where she may seek men with a smaller package to please her.

Women want to enjoy sex unless they have serious emotional issues. If you plan on breaking up with her and being a playboy, you still have a great size anyway.

Imagine this reverse scenario, imagine having a true 10" x 7" cock and spending the rest of your life looking for that special someone that can handle and enjoy it and let's say after the long search and you find her, you find out she is an emotional wreck that makes your life miserable or better yet thinks you are still too small because she has issues, then what? Do more PE?

We all want bigger dicks to please our partners more. We think bigger dick means more climaxing for the partner. This is not entirely true. Most women have a hard time climaxing because of the pain it causes not to mention allot of women may already have pre-existing emotional issues and women climax off of fantasy unless men being visual.

Sure, many women that never had it, fantasize about having a big penis in them and once they get it and it hurts them, most of them never want it again. Just like us men have certain fantasies about certain things and once we experience them we sometimes realize it was not what we expected and wanted.
 
In some cases getting bigger may be the wrong move especially if the one we love tells us we are already too big. If she is happy with your size then I would remain that size.
 
I honestly doubt your "base girth" is valid representation in any studies on penis size. Shaft girth is more realistic. We need to remember the real world knows little if anything about PE or our terms we use. Regardless it's your body not your wife's.
 
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gayron36;602741 said:
I honestly doubt your "base girth" is valid representation in any studies on penis size. Shaft girth is more realistic. We need to remember the real world knows little if anything about PE or our terms we use. Regardless it's your body not your wife's.

But it is her body that he wants to go inside, and if he gets too much bigger he won't be able to lmao
 
If I were him I'd be happier fucking my wife good than having another 0,5" which would hinder me from getting her to orgasm because of the pain she suffers from it.
Clear thing for me if you plan to have to good sex with this gal in the foreseeable future.
 
Why did you give her the vote? Women shouldn't be allowed to vote haha well at least you have a partner that is more than satisfied and you are at a big size already. If it was me I'd make up my own mind and PE in secret if it pleases you, you would gain slowly any way if you're having to do it in secret.
 
Penis size has a huge bell curve distribution. Which means that the average size is the most distributed. Which means there are not many really small or really huge dicks around. Its all more or less average. Which makes sense in that an average dick fits perfectly into most pussy.

Stuff_ you are already very big and the numbers are a good representation of it. If your wife made this veto based on her pussy and not some I dont want my man to get too strong(so other females want/steal him) reason then you should NOT do enlargement as it coudl ultiamtely destroy your marriage cause of your ego descision.

I would then rather put emphasis on having a super healthy dick with 110 % eq while getting better and better in sexuall techniques.
 
LIGHTNING;602862 said:
I think we need to master "love making" more over than dick size.

Sometimes it s a little of both. Having a huge size does not always mean you have a great method in bed, nor will a great method in bed make up for needed size...a balance of both will bring the best sexual experience.
 
doublelongdaddy;602865 said:
Sometimes it s a little of both. Having a huge size does not always mean you have a great method in bed, nor will a great method in bed make up for needed size...a balance of both will bring the best sexual experience.

True indeed!
 
Stuff_;602414 said:
I was about to get back into PE, but the wife just vetoed it. It already hurts her too much, she says. I'm still allowed to use an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to make it bigger while soft, but she won't let me do anything to make it bigger while hard because it already hurts her too much.

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SizeGenetics[/words] with noose both hurt too much and the comfortstrap doesn't work on me, so I'm going to try the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words]/SG combination and see how that goes, and maybe also do some foreskin restoration again.

For reference I'm 7.5 BPEL, 7 NBPEL, 6 BG, 5.5 MSG, 8 BPFSL, 4 NBPFL. Doesn't sound extreme to me, but she says it's scary and hurts in a bad way.

I could lose weight and maybe get to 7.25 NBPEL or so, because the bone pressed amount gets used during sex so that wouldn't make it bigger, it would just look nicer to myself and perhaps look more dangerous to her, but that much can get used anyway.

According to the most valid medical studies, this apparently puts me in the 98.27 percentile for length, and the 99.2 percentile for girth. Which means 1.63% of men are longer, and 0.8% of men are thicker, which is hard to believe. SOURCE

I think I have been conditioned by adult entertainment, society, and comments of others to have an unhealthy and unrealistic view of my body image. I have stopped watching adult entertainment and masturbating, I think they just perpetuate it and cause other changes in the brain that make it harder to function in society socially, for myself at least. The answer is to accept myself for how I am. There is no reason to want to be bigger, when your wife says she wouldn't want it in her anymore and that it is already too painful in a bad way.

I wanted to relate this story because it puts some perspective on everything size related, for myself at least.

The girth is the real issue for my wife, as she has just been introduced to my modified penis of the past eight months, wherein I gained over an inch in overall girth and about 3/4" in length.

Two nights ago, after a long abstinence, it didn't fit where it used to.

Concentrate on length, my girth has become an issue.

You can always tell her that she can not do anything to enhance her breasts in retaliation.

BJ rofl
 
BaddJack;602973 said:
The girth is the real issue for my wife, as she has just been introduced to my modified penis of the past eight months, wherein I gained over an inch in overall girth and about 3/4" in length.

Two nights ago, after a long abstinence, it didn't fit where it used to.

Concentrate on length, my girth has become an issue.

You can always tell her that she can not do anything to enhance her breasts in retaliation.

BJ rofl
Hey I guess of whatever makes her happy. My wife says to me "length doesn't matter, if your gonna do anything make it thicker" of course I'll do both and she won't mind the length, I just think for most women they feel girth more. Supposedly women only have sensation about 4 inches deep in their vag so you gotta fill it up in girth for their pleasure.
 
They definitely can feel deeper than 4 inches, but once you get passed the 8" mark, you're getting close to the pain causing area on most girls.
 
dmoney101;602978 said:
They definitely can feel deeper than 4 inches, but once you get passed the 8" mark, you're getting close to the pain causing area on most girls.

Yeah but most men want that 8" no matter who they hurt:)
 
I think we will need the assistance of Liam Neeson for this one
[video=youtube;7SqC_m3yUDU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SqC_m3yUDU[/video]
 
Women are obsessed with there looks and figures as well. So if PE makes you feel better then stick to it. Some guys feel less threatened when they know their cock got it going on.
 
going all out;603260 said:
I think we will need the assistance of Liam Neeson for this one
[video=youtube;7SqC_m3yUDU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SqC_m3yUDU[/video]

I need a clip of that on my phone so I can play it before I pull my dick out for the next girl I end up with.
 
Disco Dave;603261 said:
Women are obsessed with there looks and figures as well. So if PE makes you feel better then stick to it. Some guys feel less threatened when they know their cock got it going on.
For sure, being secure in yourself is key in any relationship
 
acromegaly;603307 said:
For sure, being secure in yourself is key in any relationship

This is the God's Honest Truth!
 
In my experience once it was over 7" it was impressive. It got lots of comments.

A lot of girls can't handle that length as it hits their cervix. When I was more like 5.75 it would still sometimes hit the cervix from behind. And though it's fun to think of your beast being a source of pain, the immediate shoulder crawl away from you and look of geez this is no fun, will quickly change your attitude. It's probably a lot like having someone kick you in the nuts.

http://i.imgur.com/6BuXD.gif

And yeah as stated somewhere else, if it's thicker than 4.5 inches... i.e. 5.5 inches, you are not going to find girls wanting it in their ass much.
 
AdmiralLongDong;603535 said:
In my experience once it was over 7" it was impressive. It got lots of comments.

A lot of girls can't handle that length as it hits their cervix. When I was more like 5.75 it would still sometimes hit the cervix from behind. And though it's fun to think of your beast being a source of pain, the immediate shoulder crawl away from you and look of geez this is no fun, will quickly change your attitude. It's probably a lot like having someone kick you in the nuts.

http://i.imgur.com/6BuXD.gif

And yeah as stated somewhere else, if it's thicker than 4.5 inches... i.e. 5.5 inches, you are not going to find girls wanting it in their ass much.

FUCK THAT BITCH!!! OUCH!!!!!!!! rofl
 
AdmiralLongDong;603535 said:
In my experience once it was over 7" it was impressive. It got lots of comments.

A lot of girls can't handle that length as it hits their cervix. When I was more like 5.75 it would still sometimes hit the cervix from behind. And though it's fun to think of your beast being a source of pain, the immediate shoulder crawl away from you and look of geez this is no fun, will quickly change your attitude. It's probably a lot like having someone kick you in the nuts.

http://i.imgur.com/6BuXD.gif

And yeah as stated somewhere else, if it's thicker than 4.5 inches... i.e. 5.5 inches, you are not going to find girls wanting it in their ass much.

Once we are able to reach the cervix the next trick is learning to go around it and enter the area of the vagina that will produce multiple, squirting orgasms. Getting around the cervix for me was in letting my girl get on top and into a position that allowed this. There was a definite change in feeling when this occurs. Within 2 minutes my girl would explode and explode with orgasms.
 
doublelongdaddy;603639 said:
Once we are able to reach the cervix the next trick is learning to go around it and enter the area of the vagina that will produce multiple, squirting orgasms. Getting around the cervix for me was in letting my girl get on top and into a position that allowed this. There was a definite change in feeling when this occurs. Within 2 minutes my girl would explode and explode with orgasms.
I agree. Females who want to cum always get on top and feel like a boss. This seems like the best way for them . So guys need to understand that her orgasm is going to happen when she is on top and feel in control. DLD: Good comment.
 
Disco Dave;603658 said:
I agree. Females who want to cum always get on top and feel like a boss. This seems like the best way for them . So guys need to understand that her orgasm is going to happen when she is on top and feel in control. DLD: Good comment.

ya the girl i am fucking now cums so hard when she is on top. she grinds her clit against my abdomen while my cock hits her g spot
 
doublelongdaddy;603639 said:
Once we are able to reach the cervix the next trick is learning to go around it and enter the area of the vagina that will produce multiple, squirting orgasms. Getting around the cervix for me was in letting my girl get on top and into a position that allowed this. There was a definite change in feeling when this occurs. Within 2 minutes my girl would explode and explode with orgasms.

So you say that the point after the cervix is the one that causes them to have insane multiple orgasms? I mean- is this point (after the cervix) more orgasmic than the rest of the vagina (before the cervix??? That would be helpful to know:)
 
"Cervical orgasms" are from hitting the A spot. We discussed those orgasms in another thread recently when we were talking about making girls squirt.
 
yep most men and women dont even have the slighlest idea of what PE is, the discipline the knowledge and the time we put into it. I have been learning about PE for the last 5 years its been really hard to open my mind and see the world of possibilities i have ahead.
 
Zambrodom3;603789 said:
So you say that the point after the cervix is the one that causes them to have insane multiple orgasms? I mean- is this point (after the cervix) more orgasmic than the rest of the vagina (before the cervix??? That would be helpful to know:)

Yes, just beyond the cervix lies the Cul de Sac, a spongy area that when pressure is applied it will bring female ejaculation.
 
Without mentioning anything like that, she had already complained that she thinks I don't care about her opinion due to thinking she'll just get used to it. She is still small though, and says she doesn't want it to be bigger.

She has wanted me to have more confidence, and I have always wanted to be more confident and thought I would have more confidence if I was bigger. But she says she thinks I want to do PE due to being insecure and depressed.

I hope she didn't make you quit PE? Is she still in your life?
 
If it already hurts her too much, that should be a big confidence booster for you. If you make it bigger it is only going to hurt her more and I promise you this, the less sex you'll have and you will be more miserable. As crazy as it may sound, it could come to a point where she may seek men with a smaller package to please her.

Women want to enjoy sex unless they have serious emotional issues. If you plan on breaking up with her and being a playboy, you still have a great size anyway.

Imagine this reverse scenario, imagine having a true 10" x 7" cock and spending the rest of your life looking for that special someone that can handle and enjoy it and let's say after the long search and you find her, you find out she is an emotional wreck that makes your life miserable or better yet thinks you are still too small because she has issues, then what? Do more PE?

We all want bigger dicks to please our partners more. We think bigger dick means more climaxing for the partner. This is not entirely true. Most women have a hard time climaxing because of the pain it causes not to mention allot of women may already have pre-existing emotional issues and women climax off of fantasy unless men being visual.

Sure, many women that never had it, fantasize about having a big penis in them and once they get it and it hurts them, most of them never want it again. Just like us men have certain fantasies about certain things and once we experience them we sometimes realize it was not what we expected and wanted.

Wise Words
 
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during the female arousal phase, the cervix will (often) retract a bit while the vagina lengthens to accommodate most sizes, so making certain she's adequately turned-on will improve your chances of 'sliding past' the cervix and reaching the Holy Grail (cul-de-sac).

Not all women ejaculate from this experience, but the several that I have experienced did so by having this deep-spot stimulated.
 
during the female arousal phase, the cervix will (often) retract a bit while the vagina lengthens to accommodate most sizes, so making certain she's adequately turned-on will improve your chances of 'sliding past' the cervix and reaching the Holy Grail (cul-de-sac).

Not all women ejaculate from this experience, but the several that I have experienced did so by having this deep-spot stimulated.
There is some related information to what you wrote under this link (post on MOS):
🔗 The Mechanics of Deep Penetration of a virgin pussy or underage - A Diagram (post #27).
 
during the female arousal phase, the cervix will (often) retract a bit while the vagina lengthens to accommodate most sizes, so making certain she's adequately turned-on will improve your chances of 'sliding past' the cervix and reaching the Holy Grail (cul-de-sac).

Not all women ejaculate from this experience, but the several that I have experienced did so by having this deep-spot stimulated.

If your lucky you can make your girl squirt 😉
 
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