Munto;695776 said:
Absolutely!
That's why I don't understand/like breast enlargment - it's just so dangerous and unnecessary

Yeah but we are the perverts for naturally increasing our penis size, but it is totally cool and acceptable if it is breast enlargement....pathetic.
 
doublelongdaddy;695845 said:
Yeah but we are the perverts for naturally increasing our penis size, but it is totally cool and acceptable if it is breast enlargement....pathetic.

To them it might be like adult entertainment?!
And certainly adult entertainment can be part of PE, but it isn't adult entertainment.
 
Munto;696084 said:
To them it might be like adult entertainment?!
And certainly adult entertainment can be part of PE, but it isn't adult entertainment.

We worked long and hard to get [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] out of the gutter of adult entertainment and into the mainstream as Men's Health, something no other PE site or forum has accomplished. This was the first step in gaining acceptance. Today I still battle the distinction when I really should not. If people want to judge us on what we do and see us a sinners, well I would like to look int6o their closets and see their missteps. It is totally unfair. When I decided to become the face of PE by doing the GQ Article I put myself out there, knowing I would take a massive backlash, but it brought the good news to millions and that is what matters most.
 
Munto;695776 said:
Absolutely!
That's why I don't understand/like breast enlargment - it's just so dangerous and unnecessary

Well isn't there natural breast enlargement? I remember seeing something like that and maybe it works, I think it does.
 
kyomoto;696176 said:
Well isn't there natural breast enlargement? I remember seeing something like that and maybe it works, I think it does.

Yeah, I read about that too.
But I think it involves cremes and pumps right from the start, which seems kind of strange to me.
Because with PE, a man can start with just his hands and see gains and add in other tools as time goes on.
 
doublelongdaddy;696129 said:
We worked long and hard to get [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] out of the gutter of adult entertainment and into the mainstream as Men's Health, something no other PE site or forum has accomplished. This was the first step in gaining acceptance. Today I still battle the distinction when I really should not. If people want to judge us on what we do and see us a sinners, well I would like to look int6o their closets and see their missteps. It is totally unfair. When I decided to become the face of PE by doing the GQ Article I put myself out there, knowing I would take a massive backlash, but it brought the good news to millions and that is what matters most.

The subject of PE, (and penis size in general) is still very taboo and probably will continue to carry the 'vagrant' stigma as long as society maintains the 'bigger-is-better' mantra. Since there's no way to actually tell if someone is 'packin' or not, (without actual proof) it allows for every man to 'pose' as being huge and perpetuate the deception. I don't see this changing anytime soon...
 
Munto;696219 said:
Yeah, I read about that too.
But I think it involves cremes and pumps right from the start, which seems kind of strange to me.
Because with PE, a man can start with just his hands and see gains and add in other tools as time goes on.

What I read was you massage the breast around the nipple or something,like there was manual work too.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;696228 said:
The subject of PE, (and penis size in general) is still very taboo and probably will continue to carry the 'vagrant' stigma as long as society maintains the 'bigger-is-better' mantra. Since there's no way to actually tell if someone is 'packin' or not, (without actual proof) it allows for every man to 'pose' as being huge and perpetuate the deception. I don't see this changing anytime soon...

The silver lining in this is the fact most men will never believe or try giving us the advantage in size. The sad part is the ones who truly need this may never find it.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;696228 said:
The subject of PE, (and penis size in general) is still very taboo and probably will continue to carry the 'vagrant' stigma as long as society maintains the 'bigger-is-better' mantra. Since there's no way to actually tell if someone is 'packin' or not, (without actual proof) it allows for every man to 'pose' as being huge and perpetuate the deception. I don't see this changing anytime soon...

yep things are going to continue that way,because most men wouldnt show what they have,and yeah most men tend to lie IMHO...But they are the ones that know their reality. Here we share our size,but we get bigger..
 
Big Schwanz Acht;696228 said:
The subject of PE, (and penis size in general) is still very taboo and probably will continue to carry the 'vagrant' stigma as long as society maintains the 'bigger-is-better' mantra. Since there's no way to actually tell if someone is 'packin' or not, (without actual proof) it allows for every man to 'pose' as being huge and perpetuate the deception. I don't see this changing anytime soon...

Well I'm hoping here we slowly progress from showing boobs on tv to showing nipples which are always missing. Like whats the big deal? it's just another body part and it should be seen like whatever nowadays because we've come so far. And once that idea gets rolling the idea of penis enlargement would get more recognition if sexual images are frequently less censored.
 
kyomoto;696306 said:
Well I'm hoping here we slowly progress from showing boobs on tv to showing nipples which are always missing. Like whats the big deal? it's just another body part and it should be seen like whatever nowadays because we've come so far. And once that idea gets rolling the idea of penis enlargement would get more recognition if sexual images are frequently less censored.

I'm not certain I'd be for that to happen...I kinda like having the distinct advantage over 99% of the rest of the male population. I know when I walk into any room that I'm in the top fifth, (if not the top one) percentile and I like having that edge
 
Big Schwanz Acht;696334 said:
I'm not certain I'd be for that to happen...I kinda like having the distinct advantage over 99% of the rest of the male population. I know when I walk into any room that I'm in the top fifth, (if not the top one) percentile and I like having that edge

Understandable. But it's still an unfair thing to me knowing we posses such secrets yet not help others with their problems. It's like do you want to help them or just make them feel like crap?
 
kyomoto;696358 said:
Understandable. But it's still an unfair thing to me knowing we posses such secrets yet not help others with their problems. It's like do you want to help them or just make them feel like crap?

One word: meritocracy

I was able to find this site, lurk about and learn, attempt a few exercises and then finally join...there's no stopping anyone from what I was able to do. What will separate us vs. them would be our discipline and dedication cuz this ain't easy by any stretch.

I'm definitely not doing any of this hard work so I can belittle someone else, I just like knowing that I have a disproportionate advantage
 
Big Schwanz Acht;696367 said:
One word: meritocracy

I was able to find this site, lurk about and learn, attempt a few exercises and then finally join...there's no stopping anyone from what I was able to do. What will separate us vs. them would be our discipline and dedication cuz this ain't easy by any stretch.

I'm definitely not doing any of this hard work so I can belittle someone else, I just like knowing that I have a disproportionate advantage

And thats fine because thats how you feel. But I was just sharing how I feel. Totally get you though. Regardless of wanting to share or not to gain advantage or not, we were able to discover this for a reason.
 
Munto;696389 said:
Every men can learn the "secrets" of PE, some choose not too.
It's their choice

It is out there for all to take part at the dinner but many will not sit at that table. We are unique in many ways which include qualities like tenacity, determination, discipline and mostly belief. Men who do not want this bad enough will not get it. It takes someone wanting it so bad they are willing to sacrifice the time and effort to do so. Many other men simply do not believe it is possible. Then you will have the curious that will spend time surfing about to find the truth, when this happens all roads lead to the Brotherhood.
 
doublelongdaddy;696409 said:
It is out there for all to take part at the dinner but many will not sit at that table. We are unique in many ways which include qualities like tenacity, determination, discipline and mostly belief. Men who do not want this bad enough will not get it. It takes someone wanting it so bad they are willing to sacrifice the time and effort to do so. Many other men simply do not believe it is possible. Then you will have the curious that will spend time surfing about to find the truth, when this happens all roads lead to the Brotherhood.

Yeah they'll literally think its bizarre when in reality they're just so stupid to even try it for themselves to see if it works or not.
 
kyomoto;696437 said:
Yeah they'll literally think its bizarre when in reality they're just so stupid to even try it for themselves to see if it works or not.

The ones who are most curious will get the help they need. For those who do not believe, well they do not reap the harvest.
 
doublelongdaddy;696550 said:
The ones who are most curious will get the help they need. For those who do not believe, well they do not reap the harvest.

That is why we're special because we took the opportunity to try this and there was no risk involved either or waste of time. People just don't seem to grasp the idea of FREE things we can do.
 
doublelongdaddy;696409 said:
It is out there for all to take part at the dinner but many will not sit at that table. We are unique in many ways which include qualities like tenacity, determination, discipline and mostly belief. Men who do not want this bad enough will not get it. It takes someone wanting it so bad they are willing to sacrifice the time and effort to do so. Many other men simply do not believe it is possible. Then you will have the curious that will spend time surfing about to find the truth, when this happens all roads lead to the Brotherhood.

Exactly. Some friends told me they want to start or would like to just increase length, but I haven't heard back from them yet, if I did I tell them to join the brotherhood.
Any men can simply start with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and see results in a few weeks, ideally add an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] to it for better elongation and after 12 weeks they can decide if it is something they can fit into their lives and if it's worth it.
 
Munto;696637 said:
Exactly. Some friends told me they want to start or would like to just increase length, but I haven't heard back from them yet, if I did I tell them to join the brotherhood.
Any men can simply start with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and see results in a few weeks, ideally add an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] to it for better elongation and after 12 weeks they can decide if it is something they can fit into their lives and if it's worth it.

Belief needs to be a very personal thing or it is called faith. So many lack faith today and the only way they can bring themselves to the point of belief is by experiencing it themselves. Most men do not have this in them, even some who know PE works will never make gains due to inconsistency or laziness. Being a Brother in the Brotherhood is a big deal. We are the Harvard or PE and getting accepted into this Brotherhood you must want it bad enough!
 
Munto;696637 said:
Exactly. Some friends told me they want to start or would like to just increase length, but I haven't heard back from them yet, if I did I tell them to join the brotherhood.
Any men can simply start with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and see results in a few weeks, ideally add an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ace bandage[/words] to it for better elongation and after 12 weeks they can decide if it is something they can fit into their lives and if it's worth it.

I tried helping 2 of my friends that play online with me and both just laugh at me. I don't bother anymore with people lol.
 
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