"The human SRD5A2)5A2 gene encodes for the type 2 5aR enzyme. African-American men appear to have a unique family of 121-131 bp alleles not found in men with lower life time risk of prostate cancer such as Asian-Americans and Non-Hispanic whites. In another report, the 5aR activity in Japanese men was found to be lower than in white or African-American men. Thus expression of various allelic forms of the gene or activity of the 5aR enzyme may contribute to differences in lifetime risk for prostate cancer."


I am thinking that there is a link. Both in BPH and in penile size. Any comments?
 
That would be a reasonable proposal, since BPH is much less common in Asian people, who I seem to remember reading are around 15% smaller than caucasian in penis size.

Edit: Sorry, just read your post again. What I meant was that African highest BPH, Asian lowest, and Caucasian somewhere in the middle. That would seem to correlate to penis size generally.
 
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I read in a survey that the average black male penis is 6.0" and that the average white male penis is 6.3".

I saw this survey a few months back and don't know the link but I remember reading it.
 
Oh yea guys? Well, I'm not really a doctor or urologist....although I play one on T.V. but, I've heard...from surveys and reliable sources ;) ;) that half greek men (ahem ) are bigger than average. LOL. I HAVE heard that "black men" tend to be larger when flaccid ....but, who knows whats true and what's not? I frankly dont care. I'm only interested in my penis and how big it is...and how big it is becoming! With my current 8.25x6 (yep had a gain there!) I'm bigger than 90% of men of any race so ha! Of course I wasnt "born" that way. So, quit worrying so much about what's average size and who's bigger than who....theres ALWAYS going to be someone bigger than you.
 
It also reminds me of the urban legend that coloured guys tend to be 'showers' rather than 'growers'. I have absolutely *no* data to back that up though :)
 
I agree with SWM on this one. It's like thinking of it this way: let's say that people from the New York have an average of 6.3" penises, from New Jersey have 6.2", and Pennsylvania have 6.1". Move to a different state to help your kids? No. You just worry about yourself and move on.
 
Statistics are statistics, they almost always lie for the individual, yet they hold somekind of group truth. Whatever state you're in, you'd factor the average.

I don't think it matters what size you start with. It's a cellular response quantified as a percentile of stretching, not an imperial growth quota.
 
Actually I have done extensive studies over the past few days and came up with some very good data. Puerto Rican New Yorkers have a bigger penis than Irish men from Pittsburgh. But Russian men from Jersey City have a thicker penis than Blacks from Compton. Blacks from Compton are much longer, on average, than whites from Boca Raton. The biggest cocks out there are midget Haitians from Holyoke.
 
Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
Actually I have done extensive studies over the past few days and came up with some very good data. Puerto Rican New Yorkers have a bigger penis than Irish men from Pittsburgh. But Russian men from Jersey City have a thicker penis than Blacks from Compton. Blacks from Compton are much longer, on average, than whites from Boca Raton. The biggest cocks out there are midget Haitians from Holyoke.

:D :D :D
 
Originally posted by doublelongdaddy
The biggest cocks out there are midget Haitians from Holyoke.

That was a Real Good Theory you just told me.
I saw it last night on the Public Access Channel in Holyoke.

But, What About South Hadley and Chicopee? Since we are in the Central area of Holyoke do we get included on those Stats?


Oh Yeah, What if I Work In Holyoke, Like at Ampad or Store 24 am I included?
 
Originally posted by Jaz
That was a Real Good Theory you just told me.
I saw it last night on the Public Access Channel in Holyoke.

But, What About South Hadley and Chicopee? Since we are in the Central area of Holyoke do we get included on those Stats?


Oh Yeah, What if I Work In Holyoke, Like at Ampad or Store 24 am I included?

It's good you brought this up Jaz. The only time it would make a difference in these circumstances is if you drove an orange jeep. By the way the smallest penis by race is that of the Hanover Pigmies. This race prizes it's tiny genitalia and extra large testicles.
 
I was lucky to shoot a picture of one of those rare Holyoke guys. This man has a 48" cock...NO JOKES....He can fit 72 women's watches on it.
 
If you knew the mechanisms of growth then this would be a different subject. Somehow you guys decided to believe only part of the scientific facts here and other you dont.

You want to believe Penis Enlargement is real despite the evidence but dont want to believe the simplest of reasons for it. You'd rather believe that you can heat it up and stretch it to the moon.

So you guys pick what is scientific fact and what isnt? I was wondering who was in charge of that!!!!!
 
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Originally posted by 8 isn't enough
If you knew the mechanisms of growth then this would be a different subject. Somehow you guys decided to believe only part of the scientific facts here and other you dont.

You want to believe Penis Enlargement is real despite the evidence but dont want to believe the simplest of reasons for it. You'd rather believe that you can heat it up and stretch it to the moon.

So you guys pick what is scientific fact and what isnt? I was wondering who was in charge of that!!!!!

8, I was not making light of your theory and if I came across that way I apologize. I have heard so many thoughts on race and size that I get sort of goofy on the whole subject when I see it brought up. In reality I have done many studies in this area and the ambiguity of the subject leaves me baffled so I tend to joke about it when it is brought up. It may be a fear mechanism or perhaps a way to make people feel more confident in a world of rumors, myths and falsities.
 
I apologize for taking it that way. It seems my theories have a hard time gaining ground because of the terminology I use. This is new to most everyone I run across and I dont spend enough time bringing people up to speed.

I get upset because of the shear amount of time and effort I put into this. I am looking to solve why some gain and some dont and what to do so that everyone gains.

I will say that I have no intention on trying to prove Penis Enlargement is real. But, with all these non gainers out there, I have been trying to find out why so I can help them. This is the Gods honest truth of the matter.
 
Originally posted by 8 isn't enough
I apologize for taking it that way. It seems my theories have a hard time gaining ground because of the terminology I use. This is new to most everyone I run across and I dont spend enough time bringing people up to speed.

I get upset because of the shear amount of time and effort I put into this. I am looking to solve why some gain and some dont and what to do so that everyone gains.

I will say that I have no intention on trying to prove Penis Enlargement is real. But, with all these non gainers out there, I have been trying to find out why so I can help them. This is the Gods honest truth of the matter.

8, I understand your plight and I commend you on it. Many have been in the same place you are and correlation between race and size always seems to result in inconclusive findings. I would love to have a definitive answer on the topic but I have not been presented with enough"solid" evidence to sway my beliefs one way or the other.

I take a romanticist view toward penis enlargement. Although childish, I look for the magic in pe and I try not to question it too much. It works and I am good with that. Many theories have come and gone in penis enlargement but I still reserve myself to the opinion that if I stretch it, it will grow. Sometimes thinking in simplicities is much more beneficial than confusing oneself with science, medical and mathematical theories...well it is in my case.
 
Its really very simple. The more DHT during development both in the womb and in puberty, the bigger your size in both penile and prostate. 5ar is the enzymes the converts Testosterone to DHT. So, the more the activity of the 5ar enzyme then the more cock you have.

It is much more complex in reality but no one wants to read a post 10 pages long. Filled with PDGF, GH, E, aromatase, genetics, serum, protein synthesis, diet, smoking, drugs, circulation, cortisol, AR, Fibroblasts, ECM, myoblasts, collagen, mRNA, hypertrophy and mechanical stress.
 
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If you go to http://www.nudeafrica.com/discus/index.html then click on Amateur Black Men and you look through some of the pics, I found that a lot of the guys on there have some big ass cocks!

Holy! I looked at a dozen or so.. I guess this proves that black guys are 8x6 average.

I don't think this site is really representative, but it definitely makes an impression.
 
I live in South Hadley on east st, but I work in springfield part time at the basketball hall of fame, then I moon light over at Smith & Wesson. My CJ7 has Stars & Stripes do I need to get it repainted now?
 
Yeah man, that would be a good job to have.....Another would be Jennifer Lopez's Gyno........Wait a minute.....Sky Lopez's Gyno.....Wait......How many patients can I have??????
 
I believe this big penis of a thing is worldwide. You will always find people with big penis anywhere in the world. We shouldn't be bothered about that. The most important thing is that we know about PE and we are going to get as big as we want
 
the expectation of an African American (I'm speaking to a North American audience, for the most part) man to have a larger than average size can work both for and against. I've found that most will perpetuate that particular myth and many women seem to acquiesce to AA men for that same reason.

Black culture is being adopted by white suburban kids possibly for this subconscious thought that girls respond to a more 'alpha' behavior and larger men exhibit it.

Just a thought
 
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the expectation of an African American (I'm speaking to a North American audience, for the most part) man to have a larger than average size can work both for and against. I've found that most will perpetuate that particular myth and many women seem to acquiesce to AA men for that same reason.

Black culture is being adopted by white suburban kids possibly for this subconscious thought that girls respond to a more 'alpha' behavior and larger men exhibit it.

Just a thought

I think a big reason we have so many African American Brothers is because of these perpetual myths that hold little water. I feel my Black counterpart has a much tougher life when it comes to expectations. This myth has gone on for so long that every Black man is expected to sport a 9" cock. The truth is there is little difference between races and this goes deep into many reputable studies. The Mandingo Complex is a great article to read, I will bump it.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/4760-the-mandingo-complex.html
 
agreed, our history (and present) toward race is appalling...and I just don't get it. Why would it matter what color/race you are? Is it all fear based? Are the white men afraid that blacks will take their women and the Jews will take their money and the Asians will take their jobs and...
 
Big Schwanz Acht;757552 said:
agreed, our history (and present) toward race is appalling...and I just don't get it. Why would it matter what color/race you are? Is it all fear based? Are the white men afraid that blacks will take their women and the Jews will take their money and the Asians will take their jobs and...

Indeed my Brother you speak the truth! We all come from one family and the family is divided. At least we have unity here in the Brotherhood.
 
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