doublelongdaddy said:
Then why are you still around and more active than ever?
Well this is actually the only thread I have posted in since creating it, I would hardly consider that more active than ever. I guess that there isn't much of a concensus here as to whether I am welcome or not. I can't change my beliefs and if I can keep my beliefs and post here, I will continue to. I know some, such as Dash, don't think this can work out. If the MODS agree that I should leave, I will. I hope I can stay. I was just waiting for people to come to a concensus about this.
 
Gandolf said:
Well this is actually the only thread I have posted in since creating it, I would hardly consider that more active than ever. I guess that there isn't much of a concensus here as to whether I am welcome or not. I can't change my beliefs and if I can keep my beliefs and post here, I will continue to. I know some, such as Dash, don't think this can work out. If the MODS agree that I should leave, I will. I hope I can stay. I was just waiting for people to come to a concensus about this.

Let it be water under the bridge and move on. You stated your concerns, I understand them as well as everyone else in the mod forum, you said you are sorry I said I am sorry...so drop it.
 
Please just take me off your mod team, this has really opened up my eyes to a number of things involving this forum. I won't hide my opinion, I think you make yourself out to be a lot more than you really are. I won't be able to deny this anymore and I'll be the first to admit that it would be ridiculous to wear the title of MOD if this is my mindset. I don't want to be a leader here in a place I no longer respect. This isn't to say that I don't like some aspects of the forum, there are some great guys here and lots of good going on amidst all of the bullshit so I'll still be around in some form. I do plan on completely revamping my video series when I get the time and I like helping newbies. See everyone around.
 
AncientChina said:
What's going on here guys? If this means we can't question each other then I am unsure even of my own modship.

What does this have to do with questioning?
 
Gandolf said:
Please just take me off your mod team, this has really opened up my eyes to a number of things involving this forum. I won't hide my opinion, I think you make yourself out to be a lot more than you really are. I won't be able to deny this anymore and I'll be the first to admit that it would be ridiculous to wear the title of MOD if this is my mindset. I don't want to be a leader here in a place I no longer respect. This isn't to say that I don't like some aspects of the forum, there are some great guys here and lots of good going on amidst all of the bullshit so I'll still be around in some form. I do plan on completely revamping my video series when I get the time and I like helping newbies. See everyone around.

WTF dld has just said its under the bridge man, and you come out with this shiet.
Are you gunna take that BREAK or not??? I mean, you have said it but have just stayed here with dld going on and on about stuff irrelavant to you having a break.
I thought you wanted to concentrate on Education???? I dunno what to think of you man, but I can tell you something for free......you have mental issues or sorts that need sorting out, this isnt an attack or critisism but Trying to help you as a freind.

You dont wonna be a mod, FINE dont fuckin be one ... but dont keep moaning about it man, go away and take that break dude and get some help on those issues, even PM me ... I'm trained in that field to a certain extent.
 
Gandolf said:
Please just take me off your mod team
24 Hours later I'm still a mod, someone demod me, then I take my break.

PS: Red, I have done no bitching and moaning about anything. I like you, but you're the last person in the world I would want to receive psychological help from.

PPS: Jaz, you have my AIM name so send me an IM if you need to discuss things further than what I've said here.
 
Thats fine, dont get any from me than.
Make sure you get it from somewhere cos you'll get WORSE with age mate.
Now are you having that break?
 
Yea I mean honestly, if I had the insecurity and emotional, and obvious maturity issues that Gandolf has....I would not be wasting precious time HERE on a bigger penis forum. I'd be addressing my life issues and dealing with what's important to me. Something like keeping my GPA up so my dad doesnt kick me out on my ass....uh yea, that would rate #1 way above a forum.

On the other hand, I would not have committed to doing something for DLD or Jaz as he did either. When I obviously knew I could not come through. As SOON as I knew for a fact that I could not come through on something, I would tell them so. (is Jaz gonna get his CAMERA back by the way???. DLD just offered me the same deal if I could help him with the videos, but I currently have a LOT going on in my personal life over the next two or three weeks, and I was man enough to say "no man, sorry I hate to do it to ya, but I really cannot see getting it done for you, not for a couple weeks at least". Rather than, dick him around and mess with HIS life schedule. I understand what a serious thing this is to DLD AND Jaz. They both put a LOT of time into this forum AND [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and the various other things going on behind the scenes that most of us are clueless about, but nonetheless are required to make these sites possible.

Gandolf, youre a good guy...from what I have gotten to know of you on the various forums over the last few years, but comon man. You have some issues you need to take care of. Regardless of whether or not DLD or Jaz de-mods you. You should have it in you to say "ok, enough already...I need a break, and I'm gonna take it till I get my shit together."
 
I have to say I am disappointed by some of the mods reactions here. this is turning is out to be a witch hunt. I have even seen personal cheap shots being made. Gandalf simply came on here to say he was taking a break because of a dispute he had with DLD.

Had Gandalf wanted to really cause a scene he would have disclosed it to us right there, and then. He didn't even pressure DLD to reveal what the dispute was about. He just said he would leave it to DLD to disclose what he wanted.

Just because he doesn't believe DLD is the size he says he is, is not grounds for us to attack him. Gandalf came to DLD in the spirit of friendship, and voiced his own concerns. That takes a lot of guts.

Gandalf has stuck to the issues. While some of the mods on here taking this way too personally. Gandalf didn't say he was taking a break because of school. He said he was taking a break from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] contingent on how things went between him, and DLD.

School was a reason why he couldn't make the deadline for the video shoot, and has apologized repeatedly for it. He is going to make reparations for the camera, but I see that continually mentioned.

I am here, just like all of you, to be successful with pe. I hesitated on commenting in this thread because I failed to see what good I could do,but it has turned into "Why haven't you left Gandalf?" thread. This is an issue between DLD, and Gandalf. Which might have been more amicably resolved had people just kept to the issue.

DLD is human. He is not god, and not above us. From what I heard of the convo. DLD lost his cool, and he even mentioned this in the thread. Lets let Gandalf, and DLD sort this out if they want. This thread has strayed very off topic. I didn''t name anyone persoanlly because I am keeping this general. Its not my goal to chastise, or put people in their place. I am just calling that us as MODs leave this issue between DLD, and Gandalf.
 
Iwant8X6 said:
I have to say I am disappointed by some of the mods reactions here. this is turning is out to be a witch hunt. I have even seen personal cheap shots being made. Gandalf simply came on here to say he was taking a break because of a dispute he had with DLD.

Had Gandalf wanted to really cause a scene he would have disclosed it to us right there, and then. He didn't even pressure DLD to reveal what the dispute was about. He just said he would leave it to DLD to disclose what he wanted.

Just because he doesn't believe DLD is the size he says he is, is not grounds for us to attack him. Gandalf came to DLD in the spirit of friendship, and voiced his own concerns. That takes a lot of guts.

Gandalf has stuck to the issues. While some of the mods on here taking this way too personally. Gandalf didn't say he was taking a break because of school. He said he was taking a break from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] contingent on how things went between him, and DLD.

School was a reason why he couldn't make the deadline for the video shoot, and has apologized repeatedly for it. He is going to make reparations for the camera, but I see that continually mentioned.

I am here, just like all of you, to be successful with pe. I hesitated on commenting in this thread because I failed to see what good I could do,but it has turned into "Why haven't you left Gandalf?" thread. This is an issue between DLD, and Gandalf. Which might have been more amicably resolved had people just kept to the issue.

DLD is human. He is not god, and not above us. From what I heard of the convo. DLD lost his cool, and he even mentioned this in the thread. Lets let Gandalf, and DLD sort this out if they want. This thread has strayed very off topic. I didn''t name anyone persoanlly because I am keeping this general. Its not my goal to chastise, or put people in their place. I am just calling that us as MODs leave this issue between DLD, and Gandalf.

I agree with you right up to the point where Gandolf questions DLD's ethics and honesty. This impacts all of us as a team.
 
Iwant8X6 said:
I have to say I am disappointed by some of the mods reactions here. this is turning is out to be a witch hunt. I have even seen personal cheap shots being made. Gandalf simply came on here to say he was taking a break because of a dispute he had with DLD.

I don't really see this as a witch hunt and I have not seen any cheap shots taken at Gandolf. Please explain this more because if I made a cheap shot I am very sorry for that.

Had Gandalf wanted to really cause a scene he would have disclosed it to us right there, and then. He didn't even pressure DLD to reveal what the dispute was about. He just said he would leave it to DLD to disclose what he wanted.

"I talked to DLD about this on AIM, he can fill the MODs in with however much information he deems fit" –Gandolf

Since this was brought to the MOD forum I knew an explanation would be necessary and with the statement about that explanation fell right in my lap.

Just because he doesn't believe DLD is the size he says he is, is not grounds for us to attack him. Gandalf came to DLD in the spirit of friendship, and voiced his own concerns. That takes a lot of guts.

I really do not care if he or anyone else questions me. You have done this yourself X. My problem that particular evening was that I had just forgiven Gandolf for his lies to me and then he went on to drag up a question that has been answered at least 100 times in a variety of threads. To me the timing on my honesty came at a very convenient time.

Gandalf has stuck to the issues. While some of the mods on here taking this way too personally. Gandalf didn't say he was taking a break because of school. He said he was taking a break from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] contingent on how things went between him, and DLD.

I apologized for my part twice in the public forums and just so there are no mistakes I will say it again: I am sorry for getting upset with you Gandolf"

School was a reason why he couldn't make the deadline for the video shoot, and has apologized repeatedly for it. He is going to make reparations for the camera, but I see that continually mentioned.

This is not the case. Tennisnut offered numerous times to pick up the camera and send it back himself. It had nothing to do with school why it could not be returned. The reason it keeps being brought up is because Gandolf has had this camera for the better part of 3 weeks.

I am here, just like all of you, to be successful with pe. I hesitated on commenting in this thread because I failed to see what good I could do,but it has turned into "Why haven't you left Gandalf?" thread. This is an issue between DLD, and Gandalf. Which might have been more amicably resolved had people just kept to the issue.

In this case no thread was necessary at all. Gandolf has my phone number, my AIM address, etc. This could have been discussed in these forms. When Gandolf brought this thread to the MOD forum and asked me to explain why he was taking a break it became the business of all the mods.

From what I heard of the convo. DLD lost his cool, and he even mentioned this in the thread. Lets let Gandalf, and DLD sort this out if they want. This thread has strayed very off topic. I didn''t name anyone persoanlly because I am keeping this general. Its not my goal to chastise, or put people in their place. I am just calling that us as MODs leave this issue between DLD, and Gandalf.

See the above statement.

As far as questioning me is concerned I have never had a problem with this. Most questions can be answered by looking through the many posts waged at discrediting me.
 
Dashdeming said:
I agree with you right up to the point where Gandolf questions DLD's ethics and honesty. This impacts all of us as a team.

Yes but that has not been the tone of the conversation in this thread. It has been a playground to level personal cheap shots that has no validity except to what is peceived in this cyber bubble.

DLD's pics do suck. Most of them really do,but I don't question his size,because all that matters to me is that he has grown, and does have the knowledge. Do I have to be believe down to the freaking millimeter that he is correct?

Oh and how many men have lied about their penis size, or even exageragated it in this world? Are there ethics to be questioned? I don't think Gandalf was questioning DLD's ethics. I have heard Gandalf's body of evidence regarding DLD's pics, and they do hold some weight. I can't debate him that they are 100% unaltered, or askewed because I don't have the expertise to do so. All I can say is I don't need to believe DLD is 12 inches, or 15 inches. All I have to believe is that he is large, and has a lot of knowledge regarding pe.That is all I care about.Gandalf agrees with me as well. I don't think Gandalf ever thought DLD would voice the whole dispute. This could have been taken care with very limited exposure to us, and handled between two capable adults who are friends. There are better ways to prove your size beyond a doubt,but DLD is done proving himself, and he has that right. Yes you will always have the doubters, but if somone says that DLD's pics are fake. I can't defend DLD. I am not properly armed, nor educated to do so. All I can say is what I have mentioned in this thread. Which should be what matters any ways.

If you read the beginning comments people made to Gandalf before the details of the dispute it looked like a rather close group of people leaving warm setiments behind. If you look after the release of the details. The same group of people do a 180, and it becomes very ugly. Lets leave this issue between DLD, and Gandalf like I said before.I don't think Gandalf is undermining DLD, or has his own agenda. I know like Gandalf I am tired of people questioning DLD's size, and we are not armed properly to defend DLD.Because defending DLD from the people of the forum is inportant. Some may link that pe doesn't work, and its a big lie. Gandalf came to DLD as a friend, and not an instigator. They had a heated dispute, and it spilled into our realm of influence. Ok enough said..
 
Iwant8X6 said:
DLD's pics do suck.

How do they suck? I think my last picture is better than any picture I have ever seen online of a measured penis.
 
doublelongdaddy said:
How do they suck? I think my last picture is better than any picture I have ever seen online of a measured penis.

It is Much Better Quality than any Picture I've ever seen on the forums and X-tra large too.
 
Suck was too strong a word. I apologize for using that word. I agree your latest one has been your best. DLD I am not attacking you. I just know many have pointed inconsistencies, of which I can't defend.
 
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Iwant8X6 said:
I just know many have pointed inconsistencies, of which I can't defend.

Be specific with these inconsistencies and I will be more than happy to answer each one.
 
This thread has taken a turn in a direction I never intended. At the time I made it I was really just announcing to the group that I wasn't sure if I was going to be around. You must understand, DLD owns and operates this place and that night on AIM he had said in no unspecific terms to basically get the fuck out of his life. Things have calmed down since but I really didn't know if I would feel welcome. That was why I thought a break was unavoidable. I finished my summer classes and got 3 A's in the ones that just finished and I saved my scholarship and actually had some room to spare, so my troubles are now over for the time being. Hopefully I can keep my grades where they need to be. A few people tried to turn this into "Gandolf has lost his mind" or something like that and it's really not true at all. I was stressed out because I had a lot riding on my grades, I think anyone would have been stressed in my position. Was this an instance of mental illness, insecurity, immaturity? No. I wish I would have had time to get the videos done, or at least get the cam back to the post office in a timely fashion. As it was, I didn't even have time for sleeping.

Things seemed to have cooled down with me and DLD. I had thought there was going to be little chance of recourse and that is why I initially felt that a break would be unavoidable, I never really "wanted" to leave or felt that I was in a position of being unfit to mod. I know some of the mods may disagree, especially one who has recently posted a poll about this. I think it is kind of sad that there is such a cult mentality here. Everybody thought I was a great guy and the minute a disagreement with DLD is brought up people do an immediate 180 without even waiting for the facts, lol. I'm glad a few people caught on to that and had the guts to post even though it may not be the populat thing to do. I know a few months ago when RED was having issues we agreed that he should leave for awhile but no one ganged up on him and took cheap shots. I've had to take quite a few on this.

Hopefully I can still MOD here, I don't feel like I need a break if the forum still wants to have me on. but, SWM has made a poll so I guess you should go and vote here.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11877
 
Good, so this is all to rest. Glad to have you back involved Eric.

Mike
 
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