im about to get the max vac but i dunno about what size cylinder to get becaus eyou see, my flaccid size changes troughout the day and its smaller some times and bigger others. so i cant really say what my flaccid size is, so how would in know what size of hanger to get if i cant tell my flaccid size is? help plz
 
really i thought you hang flaccid? so why and erect measurment of the mid shaft when you hang on the head of the penis?
 
jqsderrida said:
You do hang flaccid. These measurements only are used to inform you as to approximately what size cylinder you will need, that's all. They are simply a sizing tool.

I think it's because of how the MaxVac works. It seems literally like a mini-vacuum pump which is supposed to end on the head area rather than the base area like most vacuum pumps are. It's a clever idea, really, I'm surprised no pumpers back in the 80s never thought of doing anything like this.
 
Actually, I want to say I recall seeing a guy or two...several years ago, and of course I do not recall exactly on what forum, the place may not even be around now...but I saw a picture or two of someone who had attached his pump like usual, and used duct tape around the tube to fashion a hanger of sorts.

I hope you like the MV, but you may end up wanting a BIB. Might want to just save up the money for both just in case ;)
 
Why am I feeling the next commercial Penis Enlargement product I'm going to buy is going to be a BIB hanger? rofl

Hell, maybe I could pick it up from him at his house, he's not too far away, after all.
 
I dunno, it's probably the little things like hands down, the BEST customer support you could ask for. BIB has basically a no questions asked return/service/repair/replacement policy. Send him an email, and he answers usually within the same day, he's available to answer now on his hanger forum as well. He knows hanging inside and out better than anyone I know in my opinion.
 
I'm hanging a set currently with the Bib. It is IMPOSSIBLE for vacuum-devices to provide the same kind of pull and overall stress as the Bib provides. If you're not hanging with the Bib, you're probably wasting your time.
 
jqsderrida said:
I'm hanging a set currently with the Bib. It is IMPOSSIBLE for vacuum-devices to provide the same kind of pull and overall stress as the Bib provides. If you're not hanging with the Bib, you're probably wasting your time.
You can't put ALL vacuum devices in the same category. The MV is a heavy hanger. For those starting out and take the time to condition, there is no comparison. Do you know how silly I would feel taking a hanger off at 20 minutes? I do understand those that have hung with the bib for multiple years and may have issues transitioning at first, the problem exists when a new user tries to do 3-4 hour sessions in the first coupe of weeks.

I know you've been bib hanging for a few days, I bet in the months as you have to do 5 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] minute sessions just to get one hour, you will grow tired of the pain. So, please do not compare your experience with a swim cap vac hanger to the maxvac, I won't argue the proven points of safety, and efficiency we have come to know over the last year or so with vacuum hanging.

For sizing, erect circumference is used to determine the absolute max you can expand in the cylinder. Like you mentioned, your flaccid is too variable. That's why e use erect circumference, it's constant.
 
The BTC Killer said:
You can't put ALL vacuum devices in the same category. The MV is a heavy hanger. For those starting out and take the time to condition, there is no comparison. Do you know how silly I would feel taking a hanger off at 20 minutes? I do understand those that have hung with the bib for multiple years and may have issues transitioning at first, the problem exists when a new user tries to do 3-4 hour sessions in the first coupe of weeks.

I know you've been bib hanging for a few days, I bet in the months as you have to do 5 [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]x 20[/words] minute sessions just to get one hour, you will grow tired of the pain. So, please do not compare your experience with a swim cap vac hanger to the maxvac, I won't argue the proven points of safety, and efficiency we have come to know over the last year or so with vacuum hanging.

For sizing, erect circumference is used to determine the absolute max you can expand in the cylinder. Like you mentioned, your flaccid is too variable. That's why e use erect circumference, it's constant.

Swim cap vacuum hanger! I just about pissed myself when I saw that. Haha, nice one! Is hanging with the BIB really that tiring after a while?
 
man i was already confused about hangers and now finally decided on a max vac. but now you guys are saying that the bib gives more pull and vac hanging is waste of time? wtf i cant be wasting money to try out both things dudes, does max vac provide a proper pull/tug on the penis or not?
 
pitbull said:
man i was already confused about hangers and now finally decided on a max vac. but now you guys are saying that the bib gives more pull and vac hanging is waste of time? wtf i cant be wasting money to try out both things dudes, does max vac provide a proper pull/tug on the penis or not?

I'm sure it'll provide a good tug. I'm confused when people say vice hangers pull the penis better. I don't see how anything could pull better than a vacuum, as it is very efficient and safe to put the pull on the glans/internals rather than skin. I don't have any experience with chambered vice devices like BIB hangers, however. Although I will say the Captain's Wench thing I made back in the day SUCKED compared to my vacuum hanger.
 
pitbull said:
man i was already confused about hangers and now finally decided on a max vac. but now you guys are saying that the bib gives more pull and vac hanging is waste of time? wtf i cant be wasting money to try out both things dudes, does max vac provide a proper pull/tug on the penis or not?

The MaxVac possibly may be capable of producing sufficient force so as to instigate gains, however, it will NEVER be capable of exerting an equivalent amount of force upon the internal structures of the penis as the Bib can. Additionally, with vacuum-hangers, you can gleefully expect fluid buildup in the glans (which will cause eventual discoloration), water blisters (although not every hanger gets these, most do), and a lot of wasted time. Speak to anyone here who has used a vacuum-device (including the MV) and a Bib hanger. The Bib produces fatigue much more quicly than other devices have hitherto shown themselves capable. Pain with the Bib? Absolutely not. In fact, PAIN should never occur under any cirumstances when hanging - even with the Bib. The Bib hanger has unfortunately been villified by many over the years as the fad of vacuum-hanging has taken hold, however, no hanger has exactly the same track record insofar as consistently producing gains as the production Bibs. Additionally, as Stillwantmore has said, the Bib itself is backed by some of the best imaginable customer servic, and, to boot, Bib himself is probably the most knowledgeable guy, in respect to hanging, that you could ever hope to meet. Keep in mind also that BTC has a commercial interest in selling you this hanger; this is how he makes his living. With that said though, BTC is a fine guy and I'm sure he has a fine product. Picking a hanger has always been tough and with the recent proliferation of quality hangers (of various sorts) this decision has become only more difficult. There is a very lengthy Max-Vac review at Thunder's which is probably the most detailed source of information that can be made available to you concerning the relative merits of the Max-Vac.(http://www.Thund3rs Pl@ce.org/forum/showthread.php?t=62700&highlight=Max+Vac )
Good luck to you.
 
jqsderrida said:
The MaxVac possibly may be capable of producing sufficient force so as to instigate gains, however, it will NEVER be capable of exerting an equivalent amount of force upon the internal structures of the penis as the Bib can. Additionally, with vacuum-hangers, you can gleefully expect fluid buildup in the glans (which will cause eventual discoloration), water blisters (although not every hanger gets these, most do), and a lot of wasted time. Speak to anyone here who has used a vacuum-device (including the MV) and a Bib hanger.

Are you suggesting from the experience of (a few) others? Men who have hung for years with the vice have rejoiced with the mv. Once you are experienced with hanging (circa 2 years, or so) you will never be able to hang with the capacity that I can. Fluid, and blisters re from mis-training, as with the bib, tissue death, blood stasis, vascular damage. After you are done hanging 15 pounds, or so, how does your penis look after the session for 3-4 20 minute sessions? Cold, shrunken and marked up? I got 2 years on the bib as well my friend. 5 years from now, you will never be able to hang for 1+ hour straight! That is the key to gains, intensity, and duration, as well as the method this is delivered. Mv- expansion.

jqsderrida said:
Keep in mind also that BTC has a commercial interest in selling you this hanger; this is how he makes his living. With that said though, BTC is a fine guy and I'm sure he has a fine product. Picking a hanger has always been tough and with the recent proliferation of quality hangers (of various sorts) this decision has become only more difficult. There is a very lengthy Max-Vac review at Thunder's which is probably the most detailed source of information that can be made available to you concerning the relative merits of the Max-Vac.(http://www.Thund3rs Pl@ce.org/forum/showthread.php?t=62700&highlight=Max+Vac )
Good luck to you.

Actually, I prefer the feed back here: MyNewSize™ P.E. Forums :: View Forum - Max-Vac Forum
 
"Men who have hung for years with the vice have rejoiced with the mv. " ------Who are these experienced Bib users?

"Once you are experienced with hanging (circa 2 years, or so) you will never be able to hang with the capacity that I can."
--Perhaps, but that is irrelevant. Before two years are up I will have accomplished my length goals.

"Fluid, and blisters re from mis-training..."
--So, Big Girtha, bitchassho, stillwantmore (the list is virtually endless), all mis-trained?

"5 years from now, you will never be able to hang for 1+ hour straight!"
--Very true! But, in only three days of using the Bib Starter my BPFSL is out to 8.3" (a .3" increase).

"That is the key to gains, intensity, and duration, as well as the method this is delivered"
--Again, let's review the Bib track-record.

No hard feelings BTC. Everyone benefits from a good, open discussion.
 
jqsderrida said:
"Men who have hung for years with the vice have rejoiced with the mv. " ------Who are these experienced Bib users?

"Once you are experienced with hanging (circa 2 years, or so) you will never be able to hang with the capacity that I can."
--Perhaps, but that is irrelevant. Before two years are up I will have accomplished my length goals.

"Fluid, and blisters re from mis-training..."
--So, Big Girtha, bitchassho, stillwantmore (the list is virtually endless), all mis-trained?

"5 years from now, you will never be able to hang for 1+ hour straight!"
--Very true! But, in only three days of using the Bib Starter my BPFSL is out to 8.3" (a .3" increase).

"That is the key to gains, intensity, and duration, as well as the method this is delivered"
--Again, let's review the Bib track-record.

No hard feelings BTC. Everyone benefits from a good, open discussion.

Holy shit, .3 inch gain? Wow dude, that hanger is looking pretty suggestible now. Hopefully within the next two weeks something cool when happen, which is when I should be coming out of my decon break.
 
jqsderrida said:
How is that decon break coming along for you? I hope your fatigue has lessened somewhat.

Measured today at 8.3 x 5.75. It seems to be getting bigger the more I let it rest. I think a few more weeks hopefully will have it over 8.5 x 6. I have faith that it'll return to a size bigger than the "original." Check out my "Extreme fatigue" in the Boo Boos forum.
 
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