saphenous vein surgery

[confusedman]

i tried so hard with Penis Enlargement nad i can't gain a single mm in girth.nothing.well,i felt depressed and miserable.i couldn't continue with my thin penis of 5" average girth as it seems that every pussy i have fucked until now in missionary when wet can't feel my girth.only 2 out of 8 girls could feel it nicely and yet those two girls hoped i was thicker.what the fuck?why the average girth is 5" when the average pussy would like something like 5.5"-5.75" to feel great??
well,i want informations about doctors who do saphenous vein surgeries for penile girth
as i have heard from some articles it gives you tremendous girth when erect.like an average 1.1cm-2.2cm in width which means over 1.3"-2.6" girth!!
i would become for sure over 6.5" and thats my dream.whatever i have to pay for.
one patient from egypt went for 11.5cm girth to 19.5cm girth with this procedure.
i want my 12.5cm girth become at 16cm-17cm permanently.
any reccomendations?i am using the static stretcher now to gain some length this 2 years that i will be searching for my saviour.my length is 7.2" bpel.i will make it 8.5" with 13cm girth with the stretcher i think in this two years and after that i will travel anywhere in the world to make my dick 17.5cm girth.
fuck i tried so many years with Penis Enlargement and girth is still the same with girth exercises.i still think it works well,but not for me.
i want to hear experiences from people who have done penile surgery for width either it was dermal grafts or fat injections and i also would love to hear opinions for saphenous vein graft.don't tell me about the bypass.heart attack doesn't scare me as my whole family has a healthy heart and all the members have died either by cancer or physical death when really old.

 

[chads]

I only have 4.5" of girth at best and have never had any problems.. Ive been with at least 15 women until I decided to settle down with my current wife.. My size is small, but its the way I feel. I want it bigger .. The wife doesn't..

5 years off and on? try doing it 5yrs consistently...

 

[confusedman]

I only have 4.5" of girth at best and have never had any problems.. Ive been with at least 15 women until I decided to settle down with my current wife.. My size is small, but its the way I feel. I want it bigger .. The wife doesn't..

5 years off and on? try doing it 5yrs consistently...

4.5" girth only?i think that maybe greek women are build wider.i don't know at all.they just don't feel it nice inside of them.my girlfriend although a virgin is quite wide and she told me that she felt like a finger.fuck.and i could tell that she was open

 

[chads]

Have you tried diff positions? What were the results?

 

[Moony"B"Finch]

4.5" girth only?i think that maybe greek women are build wider.i don't know at all.they just don't feel it nice inside of them.my girlfriend although a virgin is quite wide and she told me that she felt like a finger.fuck.and i could tell that she was open[/QUOTE

If my girlfriend told me that my dick felt like a finger I'd be pissed man! Even if your dick was the size of a finger, which it isn't, she shouldn't say things like that! As far as the surgery goes I say don't do it. You've got a much bigger penis than most guys, don't go messing it up!
If she really was a virgin then she would be really tight, even a finger would be hard to get inside. Sorry if I'm being out of line by saying these things to you, just tellin it like I see it.

 

[confusedman]

4.5" girth only?i think that maybe greek women are build wider.i don't know at all.they just don't feel it nice inside of them.my girlfriend although a virgin is quite wide and she told me that she felt like a finger.fuck.and i could tell that she was open[/QUOTE

If my girlfriend told me that my dick felt like a finger I'd be pissed man! Even if your dick was the size of a finger, which it isn't, she shouldn't say things like that! As far as the surgery goes I say don't do it. You've got a much bigger penis than most guys, don't go messing it up!
If she really was a virgin then she would be really tight, even a finger would be hard to get inside. Sorry if I'm being out of line by saying these things to you, just tellin it like I see it.

well,anatomy hasn't much to do with virgin or not man.her anatomy probably needs for my estimation a 6" girth to feel just right and after that there is stretching.i don't know what to do.i will go forward for the surgery in 3 years for sure.i will continue with Penis Enlargement.i am going to try to reach 8" bpel in 2 years and of course i will have the length by then.And after that probably i will have more girth like 2/8" with hanging and stretching who knows.i will be just average in my mind.but i want that 7" girth and i will have it someday for sure with surgery and arteries put inside my penis i don't care.I want information about the surgery.

 

[Moony"B"Finch]

well,anatomy hasn't much to do with virgin or not man.her anatomy probably needs for my estimation a 6" girth to feel just right and after that there is stretching.i don't know what to do.i will go forward for the surgery in 3 years for sure.i will continue with Penis Enlargement.i am going to try to reach 8" bpel in 2 years and of course i will have the length by then.And after that probably i will have more girth like 2/8" with hanging and stretching who knows.i will be just average in my mind.but i want that 7" girth and i will have it someday for sure with surgery and arteries put inside my penis i don't care.I want information about the surgery.

There's no way that she can only be satisfied with 6" girth or more! Not that she wouldn't enjoy that much girth, I just don't believe that if you have a base gorth of 5.5" she says your dick feels like a finger! Either you're measuring wrong or she's messing with your head! Besides, no matter what don't ever do anything to your penis, especially surgery, for anyone but yourself. If you want a bigger dick thats fine but don't do it because she sayds you need one. Good luck and I wish I could help you with more info but here's a link to some:http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4868&highlight=surgery

 

[Supra?Boss]

confuseman you are confuse.

 

[Rachmunas]

I'm getting the tripple augmentation done by Dr. Krakovsky on October 1st. I'll go from 5.2 erect to over 7" at the base, and probably 6.5 at the shaft. I already had 3 fat transfer's and lengthening done within a year span. But the fat never lasted and left me lumpy. Plus the lengthening never got me any longer and the stretcher sucks! Dr. K will take out the scar tissue and severe the whole ligament this time unlike the other Dr. Plus the Dermal Grafts are permanent! Pm me if ya want.

 

[PenilePersist]

There was a thread about this earlier this year. I dug into some of the research a bit in that thread. This is the old, defunct, link http://www.mattersofsize.com/forumn...urgery-want-thicker-than-shane-check-out.html .

Did a few searches and can't find it again so far.

Original info came from altpenis.com :
http://altpenis.com/penis_news/pe_faq.shtml#3

What Is Saphenous Vein Graft Surgery?

Saphenous vein graft surgery involves removing a section of your saphenous vein and grafting it onto the tunica albuginea to enlarge its capacity. The saphenous vein, which runs down the inside of the thigh, is easy to access and sections of this vein have been used as the conduit of choice for heart bypass surgery for decades.

The tunica albuginea is the thin but very tough elastic tissue that encases the corpus cavernosa. If the penis were a blood vessel, the tunica albuginea would be its wall. More than any other component, it is the capacity of the tunica albuginea that determines your dick's size. The skin will stretch larger and the corpus cavernosa will grow to fill the space. Expand the tunica and you expand the dick. At least that's the theory.

The saphenous vein makes an ideal donor material for tunica grafts because the tissues are very similar in structure and thickness. Because it's so thin, the graft quickly establishes a blood supply from the underlying lumen of the corpus cavernosa. And because it's a vein, its endothilium lining releases anticoagulants that prevent the formation of hematomas which could cause contracture and bending.

It's a two stage procedure. Like dermal grafts, the first step is to harvest the donor material. Two small incisions, about one foot apart, are made in the upper thigh. The vein is cut one at one incision and pulled out through the other. It is then cut in half and each piece is dissected along its length. The resulting pieces flattened out are about half-an-inch by 6 inches.

Then, as in graft augmentation, a circumferential incision is made behind the glans and the penile skin is pulled back to the pubis. An incision is then made along the length of each corpus cavernosum from head to base. The grafts are then stitched into each side of these incisions. The overlying skin is then pulled back up the shaft and sewn into place.

Does Vein Graft Sugery Work?

According to one Egyptian doctor, a patient went from a girth of 11.5 cm (4.5") to 19.5 cm (7.7"). Just so you know. that's about the width of a beer can. Hmm. I emailed the doctor to ask for clarification on this figure but failed to get a response. I was prepared to write off the result until I stumbled across a follow-up study of 37 men who had undergone the operation. Measurements were taken 9 months after surgery and while there were no meaningful increases in flaccid diameter, the increases in erect diameter ranged from 1.1 cm (0.4") to 2.1 cm (0.84"). That's diameter, folks; presumably measured at the point of greatest width. In terms of circumference, that translates to a gain of 2 - 2.5 inches. If somebody's not fudging the results, saphenous graft surgery is by far the most effective means of girth enhancement currently available.

Another advantage vein grafts have over dermal or AlloDerm grafts is that you're not required to wear a dick stretcher for six months after the surgery. The penis also looks proportional when flaccid. No little wiener head sticking out of a bun.

What Is The Downside Of Vein Grafts?

It depends on what you want from the surgery. If you're looking to show off in the locker room, this isn't going to help you. This is also very invasive surgery. You're not just laying tissue over a de-gloved penis. You're actually slicing open the most important part of your dick. You're looking at a longer healing period for the penis itself and you'll have to contend with scarring at the incision sites, although these should be much less pronounced than with dermal grafts.

There is also the possibility, given the volume increase in the erectile chambers, that your erections will not be as hard as before. This has not been mentioned in the literature for girth enhancement, but it has been discussed as a side effect in other vein graft surgeries on the tunica albuginea.

How Much Does It Cost?

Hard to say. As yet there are no clinics (in North America, at least) that were offering this surgery. It's very new and still controversial. In fact, at the time of writing there was only one doctor in the world with extensive experience in this procedure. His name is Prof. Eduardo Austoni. He teaches urology at the University of Milan. If you're in town, look him up. At some point, barring unforeseen problems with the procedure, it will be performed around the world. Given the complexity of the work required you'll probably be looking at cost anywhere from US$6000 - US$12,000.

I had done some research on Eduardo/Edoardo Austoni and the most notable thing I had found was that he was recently beat up or mugged and maybe even shot, if I recall correctly, and shortly thereafter arrested on various allegations of taking pre payment for services and then not performing them. I did not follow up with the results of his arrest, whether it went to trial or not and if so then what was the verdict etc.

Here's some more info:
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cach...29+"Edoardo+Austoni"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us

Information provided by Dr. Austoni’s secretary Maurizia D'Amore, by
email.
Casa di Cura Privata del Policlinico
Via Dezza, 48
Milano
Italia
tel. +39 (0) 2 48593400
[email protected]

Information taken from Dr. Austoni’s profile at the Università degli
Studi di Milano ( http://www.unimi.it/chiedove/persona.idc?matricola=12665
)
Office Telephone: +39 02 85994798
Alternative telephone: 02 85994896
Fax: +39 02 85994551
E-Mail: [email protected]
Professore Straordinario
Settore MED/24 - Urologia
Facolta' di Medicina e Chirurgia
http://www.unimi.it/ateneo/istit/med/urologia/
Istituto di Urología

Here's a link I had not found previously, with poor translation by Google, including some news screenshots of Edoardo in the hospital after getting roughed up and then also of his arrest coverage.

http://translate.google.com/transla...lt&prev=/search?q=%22Eduardo+Austoni%22&hl=en

In the other thread I had a fairly comprehensive wikipedia article on him but I haven't been able to find it again.

Surely other doctors could perform the surgery, but as far as I understand he has the most experience and was beginning the process of educating and training other doctors based on his experience rather than other just learning as they go.

 

[mark1000]

.....And after that probably i will have more girth like 2/8" with hanging and stretching who knows......

confusedman,
you know that Penis Enlargement works.
But hanging and stretching are not the best for girth. You have already gained in girth so that means your tunica can expand.

If you train well you can gain at least another inch in girth in less than 2 years! Real girth.

The exercises?

1. All the DLD exercises for girth
2. Clamping
3. Pumping

Note: Do the exercises using small doses of Cialis or Viagra.

It is impossible do not grow.

Best wishes.