no ADS= no gains?

[dyablo]

I read a thread (cant remember the link at the moment) but according to it, if you stretch your penis and it doesnt heal in a stretched state (with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]) it actually shrinks and it is harder to experience any gain at all.
I actually dont believe that because I havent heard of many members using an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], yet they gain.Any opinions?

 

[stillwantmore]

That's the biggest bull I've ever heard. Probably saw that mentioned on Thunders? Wouldn't surprise me. Skipping out on an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] will not hinder your gains anymore than masturbating after a girth session. If you're doing enough stretching, and expanding of the penis to stretch out the tissues, you're doing all the work you need. This stuff is supposed to be a fun hobby with results, not a hassle, or a chore.

 

[8InchMIKE]

That's the biggest bull I've ever heard. Probably saw that mentioned on Thunders? Wouldn't surprise me. Skipping out on an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] will not hinder your gains anymore than masturbating after a girth session. If you're doing enough stretching, and expanding of the penis to stretch out the tissues, you're doing all the work you need. This stuff is supposed to be a fun hobby with results, not a hassle, or a chore.

Word brotha...

Peace

Mike

 

[Big Al]

I read a thread (cant remember the link at the moment) but according to it, if you stretch your penis and it doesnt heal in a stretched state (with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]) it actually shrinks and it is harder to experience any gain at all.
I actually dont believe that because I havent heard of many members using an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], yet they gain.Any opinions?

Was that advice accompanied by an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] ad? You don't need an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to make gains.

 

[bigjim7]

Yes its BS although an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is an excellent supplement for length after your hanging or stretching routine.

 

[dyablo]

That's the biggest bull I've ever heard. Probably saw that mentioned on Thunders? Wouldn't surprise me. Skipping out on an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] will not hinder your gains anymore than masturbating after a girth session. If you're doing enough stretching, and expanding of the penis to stretch out the tissues, you're doing all the work you need. This stuff is supposed to be a fun hobby with results, not a hassle, or a chore.

Actually I think I did read it at Thunders.rofl

 

[spinner2]

An [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] will help gains, but you have overwhelming anecdotal evidence on this board that an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] isn't necessary.

 

[Asanon]

Is there similar anecdotal evidence that addition of an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is "useless", or a waste for being only the same?

It seems people that don't use an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] are railing against the idea not from any lack of merit but simply because they don't use one.

Adding an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] to whatever else you're already doing is -probably- better.

The converse opinion there reads like this: "healing while in protracted tension is absolute bull, everyone knows that pulling on your dick can't increase your length!!"

-- Chokes under its own BS, eh?



"This stuff is supposed to be a fun hobby with results, not a hassle, or a chore."

Masturbation is supposed to be for fun.

P.E. is to make your dick bigger.

So, what's more of a chore? Reaching your goal in the least amount of time using the best combinations of methods possible, or doing your favorite few fun exercises and getting bigger very slowly or not at all and taking forever to do it?

Do you have to [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]? No, obviously. DLD got 2" on just the newbie program. (iirc).

Will healing without [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] cause regression? No, I think that's silly. But would healing in protracted tension be useless? No. Remodeling under some tension is better.

*

 

[twins172_up]

i agree with asanon...i think [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] can only help gains....i use to do it with a hose clamp and pipe insulation...i'm thinking about getting back into it

 

[millionman]

I'd say that an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is beneficial, but not 100% necessary. If you can keep the penis in an extended state for long periods of time then the penis will heal in an extended state. I think of the type of hanging Bib did to reach his size, and it involved heavy hanging and broke down into lighter weights progressively for hours and this ultimately is similar to the low tension [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] does. The goal is to have some tension on the tissues of the penis so that they remain in an elongated state, and this could lead to more rapid gains. I'm not saying that it's the be all end all of length work but it certainly can't hurt your progress.

Recently I've been experimenting with the vac-extender for hours at a time, and I'm fairly sure that it's doing exactly what I had hoped. I think in the end it's not necessarily how hard you pull on it but for how long you can pull on it. At the end of the day if I can get into my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for 1-2 hours, that beats the total amount of time I'd be able to put in with my hands by a long shot. I also think that with progressive extension that the tissues are much less likely to harden and become tough, and company that with longer periods of time under tension and I think you've got a solid recipe for progress. Also, so far there has been no need for me to use the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] post session because I'm spending extended amounts of time in the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] and it is going well thus far.

A lot of the inspiration behind this little experiment is because of vaselinekinght and his thoughts on girth work and how the tissue will expand but harden if there is too much stress from internal pressure or mechanical force.