Ok Penis Enlargementers!!! I have been trying to get back into Penis Enlargementing and yesterday, I decided to do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]Newbie Routine[/words]. As I was doing the manual stretches I started to re-realize why I stopped Penis Enlargementing in the first place. I could not get a secure grip(sweaty, big hands) and most of my effort was going into my grip instead of my stretches. By the end of the session I had those old familiar friction burn marks on the back of my glans( looks like slight rug burn). I decided to adopt my HANDS-Off theory. It's quite simple. I'm not going to do any manual stretches without the aide of a vaccum device(Max-Vac, or Vacu-extender). I'm just waiting for BTC to start producing the 6+girth cylinders or for Monkeybar to release the Vacu-extender. Either way, I'm probrably going to get both. I do not want to cause anymore damage to my glans(if anything I'm trying to restore sensation alittle) and my length workouts will be more productive. With both devices I would be able to get the full benefit of Penis Enlargement without even touching my penis.