Hi guys, I'm curious about the devices used in tandem with the PE exercises - the all day stretching devices seem like something I'd be interested in, and of course who doesn't want a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words], right?

Only thing is, they're reeeeeally pricey, don't you think? I totally get that it's a worthwhile investment once you see results - would I pay those sums for a bigger dick? Yes. But how do they determine the retail price of these things? I look at some of these gadgets and see ten bucks' worth of plastic, tops, but they double that and stick a zero on the end! I mean no offence to anybody who makes, sells, or buys these devices - and I apologise for my perceived ignorance - but what's behind that retail price? Are you paying for the materials and manufacturing, or the research and development, or is the price set to trap us poor desperate guys into parting with what is a considerable amount of money, for something you can't put a monetary value on (a bigger penis, better sex life, increased self-esteem etc)?

Again, this is a genuine innocent question and not designed to piss anyone off; if it angers or upsets anybody, I apologise!
 
Proverbs 11:24
One person gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty.

Don't be afraid of buying products through [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]matters of size[/words], we have the most absurd discounts! Remember it also helps the brotherhood when you do, you are grateful to have this family yes?
 
The high prices is most likely to offset the cost of production for the devices.


There's the cost of equipment, molds, manual labor, advertising, etc.,

Some things are ridiculously overpriced though, and it's usually spare parts or accessories, but that may also go into trying to offset the production costs of the main product.
 
Yes i agree with you,if you're reffering to [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] , it's way too expensive,you can find much cheaper alternatives just as good as the original PF...

The other devices like [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] , [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] , are quite cheap , i think 200 $ for a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is a good price , the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is amazing.Bathmate is also pretty cheap.
 
Spamjavelin76;657622 said:
Hi guys, I'm curious about the devices used in tandem with the PE exercises - the all day stretching devices seem like something I'd be interested in, and of course who doesn't want a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words], right?

Only thing is, they're reeeeeally pricey, don't you think? I totally get that it's a worthwhile investment once you see results - would I pay those sums for a bigger dick? Yes. But how do they determine the retail price of these things? I look at some of these gadgets and see ten bucks' worth of plastic, tops, but they double that and stick a zero on the end! I mean no offence to anybody who makes, sells, or buys these devices - and I apologise for my perceived ignorance - but what's behind that retail price? Are you paying for the materials and manufacturing, or the research and development, or is the price set to trap us poor desperate guys into parting with what is a considerable amount of money, for something you can't put a monetary value on (a bigger penis, better sex life, increased self-esteem etc)?

Again, this is a genuine innocent question and not designed to piss anyone off; if it angers or upsets anybody, I apologise!

I have been using a big padlock [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] with a little sports prewrap for 8-12 hours a day and loving it plus its dirt cheap ;) http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/1254-lock-hanging-ghetto-ads.html

and of course get a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words], if you have a wife/girlfriend they are going to love your manhood even more and talk about it like its some crazy adult entertainment dick.

good luck bro, let us know what you decide
 
every time i buy a device i have to pay double the price b/c of the taxes in my country. but i still buy them all... i am desperate.
 
also right now .....i feel money is not the main problem.......the size is........if i change this size i can earn double the money i have.....CONFIDENCE......

if you guys have money and think ur penis size is a big problem in ur life...then go ahead and spend it.......its worth it for a better life.....u can earn it again
 
Well the world is full of products for everyone. For the rich, medium and poor. It's what you wanna buy as per your pocket. Search Ali express you will get your answer .
 
Well the world is full of products for everyone. For the rich, medium and poor. It's what you wanna buy as per your pocket. Search Ali express you will get your answer . But some products are expensive for the are one of the kind like PF.
 
The grand master master_mind has spoken ! Listen carefully kids !
 
Thanks for the replies gentlemen, much appreciate your feedback. I don't have a lot of spare cheddar - the cost of one of these gadgets would feed my family for three weeks so I can't justify the expense. I will look into the ghetto style [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] thread and see if I can gain any creative ideas for a home-made stretcher. As for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words], I would love one but will stick to my air pump until I can spare the change.
 
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You can easily made a homemade [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] , let me find the thread and i will post it later. Also the [words=http://TLCTugger.com/MOS]VLC[/words] is pretty cheap and it's a great [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].
 
templnite;657623 said:
Proverbs 11:24
One person gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty.

Don't be afraid of buying products through [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]matters of size[/words], we have the most absurd discounts! Remember it also helps the brotherhood when you do, you are grateful to have this family yes?

And if you can't afford a device there is always the monthly contest, right templnite? :)
 
^Proverbs 11:25
A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed

Yes I won a tool just for remembering my brothers have needs just like i had one time. All you need to do is be versed in PE things to offer hope for men which come from the same place you did. I'll never forget where I come from brother its one of my biggest motivators.
 
templnite;657848 said:
^Proverbs 11:25
A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed

Yes I won a tool just for remembering my brothers have needs just like i had one time. All you need to do is be versed in PE things to offer hope for men which come from the same place you did. I'll never forget where I come from brother its one of my biggest motivators.

Did you go for the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] templite?:)
 
doublelongdaddy;657769 said:
And if you can't afford a device there is always the monthly contest, right templnite? :)

Ah, I'm a noob, I have nothing much to offer the forum aside from tedious questions and some creative wordplay at the moment! Although if you saw my dick flaccid, you'd probably give me a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] out of sheer pity. Once you got done laughing, that is....
 
^ We're not in kindergarten brother, please post something funny next time. Look at mastermane posts for reference.
 
Spamjavelin76;658021 said:
Ah, I'm a noob, I have nothing much to offer the forum aside from tedious questions and some creative wordplay at the moment! Although if you saw my dick flaccid, you'd probably give me a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] out of sheer pity. Once you got done laughing, that is....

Many of our winners started off with absolutely no knowledge in PE but by a months end they became very knowledgeable. It all starts with the first step.
 
Spamjavelin76;658021 said:
Ah, I'm a noob, I have nothing much to offer the forum aside from tedious questions and some creative wordplay at the moment! Although if you saw my dick flaccid, you'd probably give me a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] out of sheer pity. Once you got done laughing, that is....

That's why you're here,to learn :) PE is not complicated at all,it's quite simple.
 
We all pay for what we're willing, or feel like we "can afford". It's all subjective and anyone can afford whatever they want if they truly want it. However, one of my main motivations to my pricing on my devices is I want all men regardless of financial standing to be able to afford them.
 
stillwantmore2;658323 said:
We all pay for what we're willing, or feel like we "can afford". It's all subjective and anyone can afford whatever they want if they truly want it. However, one of my main motivations to my pricing on my devices is I want all men regardless of financial standing to be able to afford them.

lol nice plug but I agree with what you are saying. I really do like the pricing of the devices you have, I personally have and use the clamp device you sell. For me buying PE gear is a process I generally take pretty slow ... Making sure to consider if I actually need the thing or now. Heck, I took me about a year to decide on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] and about a year on the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]. I think it really comes down to logically deciding if a piece of equipment can improve a part of your current routine. For the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] I wanted night time stretching, For the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] I wanted more intense bundled stretch and for stillwantmmore's clamp I wanted a clamp that was sensitive to make minor adjustments versus the cable clamp.

I think it comes down to value. If something is really important to you, save and get it but if you are able to talk yourself out of it ... then you don't need it.
 
ChilDsh;658308 said:
That's why you're here,to learn :) PE is not complicated at all,it's quite simple.

It is simple, but everybody has their own theory which fogs it up
 
templnite;658342 said:
It is simple, but everybody has their own theory which fogs it up

I think what helps fog things up is when we approach PE as if there is one absolute way. It is like working out ... Certain exercises work better for certain people and it is just a process of listening to your body to see how you respond.
 
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I could never know since I only have my own body to work with.
 
superman05xx;658346 said:
Experimentation of other people's methods without getting the same results was what indicated this truth to me

Good words. Members here have come up with so many innovations, modifications, routines, tool mods, etc. It is smart to use their experience and try what is working for them. In many cases some of these things go completely unnoticed and end up deep in the archives because no one else tried.
 
Proverbs 11:24
One person gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty.

Don't be afraid of buying products through [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]matters of size[/words], we have the most absurd discounts! Remember it also helps the brotherhood when you do, you are grateful to have this family yes?

Lovely post. I believe firmly in giving.
 
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Good words. Members here have come up with so many innovations, modifications, routines, tool mods, etc. It is smart to use their experience and try what is working for them. In many cases some of these things go completely unnoticed and end up deep in the archives because no one else tried.
Indeed that's why I feel it's so important to be active on the forum, and create your own progress thread, and also to share your experiences: methods, tries and errors and so forth, and also ask a lot of questions... we will learn from each other. I

It's also important to be concistent with what you are doing, in that way you can validate if it's working or not.
It does't matter if you are newbie in PE, or if you are a veteran in PE, we can all learn from each other, and in that way optimize everything reagrding PE. Who knows, maybe you will discover something new, and If you do not share this new thing no one else will benefit from this.
 
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