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There are so many other variables to consider that this assumption holds little
weight. What if the guy is fat, stupid, poor, can't dance, doesn't have the time, is gay, etc?
Well if you throw enough confounding ad hoceries for the disagreeable point to climb, any stance becomes winnable...
But for this example, what's to keep everything you just said from being just as applicable to a 4 inch guy? Can only 8 inch guys be fat, stupid, and poor?
With that normed for both guys, -- the guy with the 8 inch is still going to have a radically better set of experiences, success, approval, compliments, and a subsequent exuding of higher confidence.
One of the things that goes along with the rod and the confidence, for just one example, is referral sex. (Where an ex had inadvertently talked you up so much that their 'friends' are waiting in the wings when you break up.)
Women have a whole host of reasons they give, in a clinical (non-sexual) setting for the things they prefer that are more important in a relationship than penis size. But those very same sample groups also state at the 90% level that they are more stimulated by being in the physical presence of, or fantasizing about the pleasure of, a bigger penis and attach the idea to a man's relative masculinity.
Other studies find that people will tend to fudge their answers in surveys, even if anonymous, towards a mean of what they should say or how they shouldn't be. This makes more sense from the disparity between penis size being 'low on the list' while simultaneously 90% of the respondents fantasizing about them and saying they're the basis of higher relative masculinity.
And on the subject of fudging towards non-judgementalism, several of those penis size studies were done in a very weak rigor ... such as having the subjects (with no oversight whatsoever) state what their erect length is by placing a mark on a postcard and mailing the postcard in to the surveyors.
I still think a 4 inch dick is rare though. You don't see very many..
Find some japanese adult entertainment. Without meaning to be in any way culturally generalizing or insulting, what we have -here- (at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]) is primarily a set of people from the largest penis groups, who make them even bigger as a hobby, and are probably exposed to quite a bit of Western adult entertainment. Yeah, -we- don't see a lot of 4 inchers. But now I'm arguing 'against' my view
, ... that I think a girl is more likely to run into an 8.
I believe that I've read that a very high number of partners for a man is around 30 -
In the past, people would tend to have an average of 10 to 12 across their lifetime. Some none, some 300, etc. From that group though you have different types of personality and confidence from their string of historical successes or failures. Someone put it once: 'boys get lucky, men get laid'. (Meaning -- if someone wanders around life waiting for a girl to - literally - fall into their laps, there's only so many sexual experiences that will tend to provide. If someone is used to 'getting lucky' all the time and their internal game has developed to exist in that reality, they can easily have a partner per week until it gets old or boring or virologically scary.
(No, you don't have to have an 8 to do that ... but as a variable it wouldn't tend to be in any way a negative.)
BTW, now in the age of the Rainbow Parties, etc, people can be having ten, or far more, partners before they even get a drivers license.
the more men a woman has slept with, the more she'll have been exposed to the true average and understand it, which most medically disinterested studies report to be under 6".
That's not the question though, - whether or not woman X understands the statistical averages and appreciates a 6 as being normal.
The question was whether or not a girl is more likely to see an 8 or a 4.
Think of it like this - a true 8" NBP dick is probably somewhere in the realm of 1/100 guys - maybe slightly more, maybe slightly less, but remember, this is a size that not even a lot of adult entertainment stars have.
I agree with this, -- statistically, and that a lot of adult entertainment stars aren't actually that size.
I had a side-rant on the Kinsey study - redacted, this post has to end sometime. It's probably reliable though to think that a study that was manually stimulating pre-teen children to orgasm didn't rely on word-of-honor and postcards for their adult length data.
Kinsey puts 4" at .3% and 8" at 1% (and for further insight ... 8.25" again at .3% same as the 4")
From that alone, it would seem that an 8 inch is over 3 times more encounterable than a 4 inch ... apart from any behavioral confidence/experience or idealization/preferential factors from men and women on the matter.
But Kinsey's sample group (of western bisexual prisoners (?)) ... included what percentage of subjects from groups tending smaller than the mean? Any? It would seem that figure, people tending more towards 4 inches, could have been radically underrepresented.
That could put us back to behavioral factors as the tipping nod.
Tired of typing. Good thread!
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