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I like the look of an 8 incher and in videos it looks like those guys can get the whole thing in with some work, but I think it's important to remember that adult entertainment is far from reality. Can most girls enjoy 8?
I'm naturally 7 and I don't seem to be picking up and length from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], which is fine. I always figured I'd go for 8. But as I am approaching actually making some gains in that department, I question the wisdom. I've already bottomed out in 3 girls(they liked it a lot), but I would want to die if I couldn't get all the way in. And I spose I don't want my lady so sore that we can't have sex frequently. Can guys above 7 weigh in with their long term relationship experience? Any data for perspective greatly appreciated!!
 
I'm at 8 now and haven't had any problems. Occasionally I've heard a complaint but that's usually only when I kinda blow past the foreplay which is pretty rare. An extra inch can be handled pretty easy by just angling a little different. Really though, you should be more concerned about whether you are OK with 7 forever. If you aren't then it's not going to matter what me or any girl tells you, you won't be happy with it. And that's what it's all about.
 
Well I do PE for myself, not for the girls, but I understand your concerns. I'm at full 8 now and in my experience it's all about foreplay. As long as you warm her up properly, it's not a problem. And after some time in a relationship she kinda gets used to it and she can take it with less foreplay. I shoulsay though that my girl is a big one, kind of an amazon type. Like 5'10 or so, big hips, athletic, etc. If you date smaller girls, with narrow hips things may be different.
 
Question -- when you guys are commenting on 8", are you talking BPEL or NBPEL? Reason I ask is I've gained about 1" since starting all this around a year ago, but haven't been with anyone since. To me, it doesn't look/seem that much longer, but I've seen threads like this and others that put 8" in the 'danger' or 'high risk' zone.
 
Slampocalypse;666779 said:
I like the look of an 8 incher and in videos it looks like those guys can get the whole thing in with some work, but I think it's important to remember that adult entertainment is far from reality. Can most girls enjoy 8?
I'm naturally 7 and I don't seem to be picking up and length from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], which is fine. I always figured I'd go for 8. But as I am approaching actually making some gains in that department, I question the wisdom. I've already bottomed out in 3 girls(they liked it a lot), but I would want to die if I couldn't get all the way in. And I spose I don't want my lady so sore that we can't have sex frequently. Can guys above 7 weigh in with their long term relationship experience? Any data for perspective greatly appreciated!!
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There is no universal answer for that..some girls have a 4" vagina,some have a really deep one,you need a 9 incher to hit the bottom...i would say yes,most of them would enjoy an 8 incher , depending on your girth of course.
 
Phoenix7672;666792 said:
Question -- when you guys are commenting on 8", are you talking BPEL or NBPEL? Reason I ask is I've gained about 1" since starting all this around a year ago, but haven't been with anyone since. To me, it doesn't look/seem that much longer, but I've seen threads like this and others that put 8" in the 'danger' or 'high risk' zone.
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I'm talking about 8 BPEL. That's "real" size, and in my experience you can use whaat you have hidden in fatpad if you want.
 
You can be a adult entertainment guy even at seven inches, but its recommended to have over nine inches because it looks better on film (more detail shot of the sexing act)
 
GhostRider;666781 said:
Well I do PE for myself, not for the girls, but I understand your concerns. I'm at full 8 now and in my experience it's all about foreplay. As long as you warm her up properly, it's not a problem. And after some time in a relationship she kinda gets used to it and she can take it with less foreplay. I shoulsay though that my girl is a big one, kind of an amazon type. Like 5'10 or so, big hips, athletic, etc. If you date smaller girls, with narrow hips things may be different.
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This all the way. If you're comfortable and happy with where you're at then why increase size? 7 is actually a very solid size and I think it's relatively very good with most females.
 
templnite;666821 said:
You can be a adult entertainment guy even at seven inches, but its recommended to have over nine inches because it looks better on film (more detail shot of the sexing act)
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Most men in adult entertainment are from average to about 7" at the top end.
 
GhostRider;666805 said:
I'm talking about 8 BPEL. That's "real" size, and in my experience you can use whaat you have hidden in fatpad if you want.
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I guess it's weird to think that at my current size I could bottom out most now. Seems like I should need longer (but I know that's my mind playing tricks on me), and I still want longer...at least 1-2" before I'm done length-wise.
 
Phoenix7672;666996 said:
I guess it's weird to think that at my current size I could bottom out most now. Seems like I should need longer (but I know that's my mind playing tricks on me), and I still want longer...at least 1-2" before I'm done length-wise.
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You can always try and view your dick from different perspectives and areas to get a better look. Have someone take a picture of it from a different angle, maybe then you'll see it is big. because for your BPEL, 7.75 thats very very good. You just need to lose that fat pad because your NPBEL is 6.75
 
doublelongdaddy;666980 said:
Most men in adult entertainment are from average to about 7" at the top end.
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There are tons of guys under 7" in adult entertainment...there are some scenes filmed with very good cameras,full hd,looks like a hollywood movie :) forgot the name,and they only have actors around 6" , but they are quite handsome and ripped.
 
kyomoto;667034 said:
You can always try and view your dick from different perspectives and areas to get a better look. Have someone take a picture of it from a different angle, maybe then you'll see it is big. because for your BPEL, 7.75 thats very very good. You just need to lose that fat pad because your NPBEL is 6.75
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So far I have found it easier to increase BPEL than to lower the fat pad lol. I've set all my goals based on having 1" of fat down there, but yes, I'd love to get it down to about half of that (from memory, I've never had less than that due to genetics). Fingers are crossed by next spring I'll see at least 8.5 BPEL/7.5 NBPEL...that's about where 'big' starts in my own warped mind.
 
kyomoto;666853 said:
This all the way. If you're comfortable and happy with where you're at then why increase size? 7 is actually a very solid size and I think it's relatively very good with most females.
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Why? BECAUSE I CAN! Seroiusly. PE is such a gift, thing so magic that if I did't do it I'd feel like I'm wasting a big chance. Just think how many man never had a chance to find out that is indeed possible to enlarge ones penis. So I'd feel like knowing of PE and not doing it is a terrible waste, a disgrace even.
That said when I'm good with BPEL 8, with 9 I'll be even happier. rofl

Phoenix7672;667059 said:
So far I have found it easier to increase BPEL than to lower the fat pad lol. I've set all my goals based on having 1" of fat down there, but yes, I'd love to get it down to about half of that (from memory, I've never had less than that due to genetics). Fingers are crossed by next spring I'll see at least 8.5 BPEL/7.5 NBPEL...that's about where 'big' starts in my own warped mind.
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Funny thing is that when i'm at 12% bodyfat my fatpad is 1", but when I'm 15% or even 18% it doesn't change. When I get leaner, like 8% or so, than fatpad get a little smaller. But it's so much work to lose fat and, even worse, to keep it off... Kinda undoable for a long run.
 
I've heard kegels can burn down the fatpad...i don't know if it's bullshit or not,but i know a couple of guys lost some pubic fat just by doing kegels...there are also some exercises to focus more on the pubic fat.
 
ChilDsh;667075 said:
I've heard kegels can burn down the fatpad...i don't know if it's bullshit or not,but i know a couple of guys lost some pubic fat just by doing kegels...there are also some exercises to focus more on the pubic fat.
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Spot reducing is a myth
 
ChilDsh;667075 said:
I've heard kegels can burn down the fatpad...i don't know if it's bullshit or not,but i know a couple of guys lost some pubic fat just by doing kegels...there are also some exercises to focus more on the pubic fat.
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I wish that were the case for me! I do thousands of them and fat pad does not budge. For me it is all about exercise and diet.....always keep a moving factor!
 
Spot reducing is possible, basically it's accomplished by increasing blood flow to a specific area while working out. But it will only work in the context of an overall fat reduction with a clean diet, exercise, etc... Also the fatpad is a small area so spot reducing just that is difficult. Anyone serious about exercise can google "t-nation". Best fitness site on the web.
 
A brief look at that site seems to result in very mixed messages. Supposedly the reasons people aren't gaining six pack abs is because they're wasting their time with planking, sit ups, lunges and push ups So what do they recommend you do to really develop these muscles? Why, sit ups, push ups, lunges and planking of course!
Maybe its just me but I'm not seeing the quality of the site at all.
 
FireDragonLeo;667199 said:
Spot reducing is possible, basically it's accomplished by increasing blood flow to a specific area while working out. But it will only work in the context of an overall fat reduction with a clean diet, exercise, etc... Also the fatpad is a small area so spot reducing just that is difficult. Anyone serious about exercise can google "t-nation". Best fitness site on the web.
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I would say spot reducing is kinda and kinda not possible. Here is why I believe that. You can tone your muscles to make them look as if you lost fat (you actually do lose SOME fat from toning) but not entirely. Perhaps doing kegels can tone your pubic bone?

Phoenix7672;667059 said:
So far I have found it easier to increase BPEL than to lower the fat pad lol. I've set all my goals based on having 1" of fat down there, but yes, I'd love to get it down to about half of that (from memory, I've never had less than that due to genetics). Fingers are crossed by next spring I'll see at least 8.5 BPEL/7.5 NBPEL...that's about where 'big' starts in my own warped mind.
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What's your NBPFSL? You can also gain if you have potential gains that are seen with NonBonePressedFlaccidStretchedLength(NBPFSL). If you have gap where your BPEL is 7.75 and your NBPFSL is 8.0 or 8.25 you can get your BPEL to that NBPFSL by doing Erect stretches :)
 
Developing muscle is one thing...reducing fat is another. You can't control where your body loses fat deposits from, but obviously you can target individual muscles.
 
Complete myth. If it was true, everybody would have saggy tits but a nice hard six pack. Shit, my neck fat would be gone cuz I hate wrinkles when I look down lol. The aspect of spot reducing is more like over-training, you think you lost fat but you burned through the muscle you accumulated, essentially the area lost weight but the weight was muscle not fat. The thin layer of fat is still looking at you laughing. Look through your genetics and figure out what spots your body holds the most fat; inner thighs, chest, stomach, love handles. Put it in your mind that you can lose it and see what changes happen. Just like PE, you gotta believe. You have to respect the work it takes some of us to get our fat down low enough. So many myths are out there so people can take advantage, you have to be strong to know what to believe. Until they give me true, unbiased studies proving otherwise, then I'll gladly change. Not a supplement companies own lab tech or sponsored biologists from a certain government. Look at steroids, your dick will shrink. No it won't, your balls will cuz they have no need to produce testosterone anymore, you'll pack muscle in your groin area and essentially make yourself look smaller. Just like camera work in adult entertainment. Steroids help those with weaknesses, asthma and rebuild our fallen soldiers atrophied muscles from being bed ridden. When things are used the right way, they open so many doors. Not money grubby cheats who outlaw things like Viagra cuz some idiots overdosed without knowing they had a bad heart or clogged arteries. Sometimes we just have to thin the herd. Know what I mean lol.
 
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Phoenix7672;667222 said:
Developing muscle is one thing...reducing fat is another. You can't control where your body loses fat deposits from, but obviously you can target individual muscles.
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You do burn fat though, just not as much as if doing a cardio work out. The changes are very minimal to none.
 
Pussy also stretches over time to accommodate. Generally speaking, unless you have an unusually petite girl it's going to fit eventually. Just stay away from 10+ mark because that's not really a naturally occurring size. Or find a girl way into huge dildos first.
 
Of course spot reduction is not possible without a clean diet and cardio..but i think , as long as you have a clean diet and you do some cardio,it's possible to focus on specific part of your body a bit more than the others.
 
kyomoto;667220 said:
What's your NBPFSL? You can also gain if you have potential gains that are seen with NonBonePressedFlaccidStretchedLength(NBPFSL). If you have gap where your BPEL is 7.75 and your NBPFSL is 8.0 or 8.25 you can get your BPEL to that NBPFSL by doing Erect stretches :)
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Not sure if you mean BPEL and BPSFL, as that would make more sense. My BPEL is just over 7.75" now, and BPFSL is 8" or potentially just over it (due to my ruler being slightly off). NBPFSL is too had to measure, since when I pull it out, it also pulls out skin in the fat pad, giving me no clear starting point. BPFSL used to be 7.75, so my fingers are crossed I'll see an erect gain in the next 1-2 months like has happened in the past.

Regardless, given what I've gained in the last year, I'll have to remember 'with extra inches comes extra responsibility' next time I am actually with a girl, given what people are saying about 8 or near 8 BPEL.
 
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Phoenix7672;667296 said:
Not sure if you mean BPEL and BPSFL, as that would make more sense. My BPEL is just over 7.75" now, and BPFSL is 8" or potentially just over it (due to my ruler being slightly off). NBPFSL is too had to measure, since when I pull it out, it also pulls out skin in the fat pad, giving me no clear starting point. BPFSL used to be 7.75, so my fingers are crossed I'll see an erect gain in the next 1-2 months like has happened in the past.

Regardless, given what I've gained in the last year, I'll have to remember 'with extra inches comes extra responsibility' next time I am actually with a girl, given what people are saying about 8 or near 8 BPEL.
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You're right I meant BPFSL, my bad. You say your BPFSL is 8" , this means you can get your BPEL (7.75) up to 8" by doing erect stretches if you haven't already, or any other inner penis exercises. Focusing more on inner penis exercises will definitely get your BPEL (7.75) to 8"
 
kyomoto;667347 said:
You're right I meant BPFSL, my bad. You say your BPFSL is 8" , this means you can get your BPEL (7.75) up to 8" by doing erect stretches if you haven't already, or any other inner penis exercises. Focusing more on inner penis exercises will definitely get your BPEL (7.75) to 8"
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^^^^Great Advice^^^^
 
jekyllnhyde360;667406 said:
Spot reduction is impossible, the myth has been shattered, i dont know why continue to push it.
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Well then instead of continuing nonsense about it, not that you are, lets suggest some better alternatives to losing fat pad :)
 
kyomoto;667347 said:
You're right I meant BPFSL, my bad. You say your BPFSL is 8" , this means you can get your BPEL (7.75) up to 8" by doing erect stretches if you haven't already, or any other inner penis exercises. Focusing more on inner penis exercises will definitely get your BPEL (7.75) to 8"
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Haven't done any erect stretches yet...mainly just lig stretches and tunica (sp) where I use a finger or two as a fulcrum and stretch both up and down. Might have to look that up. Before starting PE my BPFSL was actually LESS than my BPEL...very quickly the two equaled out (before any other gains), and since then a gain in BPFSL normally means it will become my BPEL within a month or two.

Can't remember if I said it here either (posted in a few threads, plus I am over at Thunders and PE Gym), but hopefully I'll see 8.5" by next spring, and maybe 9" by 2017 if I am lucky. As far as I'm concerned, the bigger the better, until girls beg me to stop. lol
 
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Phoenix7672;667459 said:
Haven't done any erect stretches yet...mainly just lig stretches and tunica (sp) where I use a finger or two as a fulcrum and stretch both up and down. Might have to look that up. Before starting PE my BPFSL was actually LESS than my BPEL...very quickly the two equaled out (before any other gains), and since then a gain in BPFSL normally means it will become my BPEL within a month or two.

Can't remember if I said it here either (posted in a few threads, plus I am over at Thunders and PE Gym), but hopefully I'll see 8.5" by next spring, and maybe 9" by 2017 if I am lucky. As far as I'm concerned, the bigger the better, until girls beg me to stop. lol
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Definitely look at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] and UNDERSTANDING THE TUNICA AND HOW IT EFFECTS GAINS IN LENGTH AND GIRTH these 2 threads will bring a great deal of understanding to the entire PE process.
 
Slampocalypse said:
I like the look of an 8 incher and in videos it looks like those guys can get the whole thing in with some work, but I think it's important to remember that adult entertainment is far from reality. Can most girls enjoy 8?
I'm naturally 7 and I don't seem to be picking up and length from [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BM[/words], which is fine. I always figured I'd go for 8. But as I am approaching actually making some gains in that department, I question the wisdom. I've already bottomed out in 3 girls(they liked it a lot), but I would want to die if I couldn't get all the way in. And I spose I don't want my lady so sore that we can't have sex frequently. Can guys above 7 weigh in with their long term relationship experience? Any data for perspective greatly appreciated!!
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It just occurred to me that, ever since I got to 8 inches, I've not had any long term relationship. And I don't see myself having such relationship anytime soon. Too focused on PE for now.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
You mean that you where open about penis enlargement?
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Yes. I was completely open and both women hated me for it. There are most likely situations where women may be ok but it will not last eventually penis envy will happen and the relationship will most likely collapse
 
DLD said:
Yes. I was completely open and both women hated me for it. There are most likely situations where women may be ok but it will not last eventually penis envy will happen and the relationship will most likely collapse
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I was kinda worry about this, I started to follow you on Instagram today. Maybe woman are sneeky and curious, and will discover what, Matters Of Size is all about? 🤔
My secret may be compromise.
Don't know if that matters or not.
 
squirt_inducer_man said:
I was kinda worry about this, I started to follow you on Instagram today. Maybe woman are sneeky and curious, and will discover what, Matters Of Size is all about? 🤔
My secret may be compromise.
Don't know if that matters or not.
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Problem solved, created a new anonymous account on Instagram. I realized now that I was supposed to quit social media.

Sorry for getting so far outside of the thread...
 
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squirt_inducer_man said:
Problem solved, created a new anonymous account on Instagram. I realized now that I was supposed to quit social media.

Sorry for getting so far outside of the thread...
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If any lady see you following DLD on instagram with your real account and if they discover what MOS is all about, they will see you as a weak man.
 
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