2 Layers of size?

[kyomoto]

Hey guys it's been a while. I just have a question for you guys.

Do you guys believe there are 2 layers in gains?

1 being Permanent Gains and the other Temporary Visible Gains. I just associate Permanent gains with BPFSL and Temporary Visible Gains with BPEL

 

[CokeCanCock]

Why would BPEL be temporary?

 

[runningignus]

Temporary in the sense that it's not cemented? Everything is temporary until it's cemented. BPEL and BPFSL can give false numbers until it's cemented. It's really showing you what you can be in time. The 2 layers are cemented and temporary.

 

[DLD]

Temporary gains are the gains that get us to permanent gains. In girth we are looking to increase our size beyond our best normal measurement. SO if you are 5" solid girth when erect you will want to bring that to .25"-.5" beyond normal. This is temporary but in the expansion and consistency of making this happen gains become permanent and a new temporary see fills its place. The same applies to length in the sense that gains will show up in flaccid-stretches bone-pressed before they show up in Bone-Pressed Erect Length. In this case the same applies, we are looking to elongate a bit beyond normal to make these gains and to follow up with erect stretching secure these temp. gains.

 

[kyomoto]

Temporary in the sense that it's not cemented? Everything is temporary until it's cemented. BPEL and BPFSL can give false numbers until it's cemented. It's really showing you what you can be in time. The 2 layers are cemented and temporary.

Yes. Because I don't know if you know but my max BPFSL is and was 7.25 inches and back then my BPEL was 7.25 as well. But when I did the masturbation experiment my size decreased in BPEL to 6.5 and after that I didn't do PE for a while so basically a break of 4+ months + masturbation which decreased my BPEL. Since that was the case, I measured my BPFSL and it was still 7.25. The 1st layer is always going to be cemented gains. and the end layer will presumably be visible but temporary gains because as you can see my masturbation experiment made me lose size but my BPSFL still remained the same.

My BPFSL 7.25 was cemented therefore it's permanent. The only variable that changes would be my BPEL. Therefore 2 layers. One permanent and 1 temporary.

Why would BPEL be temporary?

Because BPEL will always be affected if taking breaks away from PE, masturbating too much, or Erection quality. It can change due to many things BUT if you take care of your penis then it will not. The only thing for sure would be BPFSL that is for me, considered permanent and cemented size.

Now here's another question. How can we increase BPFSL? A way to lengthen that aspect. I know we can close the gap between BPEL and BPFSL by doing erect stretching and inner stretching. But what do you guys believe is a more effecient key in terms of increasing BPFSL. Would it be a specific exercise, routine, or technique?

 

[CokeCanCock]

I get what you mean now, like an deflated balloon can stretch to a certain size.

 

[kyomoto]

I get what you mean now, like an deflated balloon can stretch to a certain size.

I uhh....I don't think that example is applicable OR I do not understand I'm sorry.

 

[stillwantmore]

I've never put much thought into discerning between the two. Yes, you can get a "pump" from a girth workout. That is not "temporary gains". The term temporary gains is very misleading and honestly, I hate it. Gains are gains, period. You have either made a gain, or you have not.

 

[CokeCanCock]

I uhh....I don't think that example is applicable OR I do not understand I'm sorry.

"Because BPEL will always be affected if taking breaks away from PE, masturbating too much, or Erection quality." the size of balloon depends on how much air you put in it. But you can always stretch it to a certain size once deflated. Just like an erect and flaccid penis.

 

[kyomoto]

"Because BPEL will always be affected if taking breaks away from PE, masturbating too much, or Erection quality." the size of balloon depends on how much air you put in it. But you can always stretch it to a certain size once deflated. Just like an erect and flaccid penis.

Ah yes, that is a great comparison. Then yes you have understood

 

[CokeCanCock]

Ah yes, that is a great comparison. Then yes you have understood

Got there in the end

 

[DLD]

Got there in the end

And it is always best to measure length is the Flaccid, Bone-pressed state as this measurement will be consistent and only change when growth occurs. When measuring erect there are many things that can cause eq issues, hence measurement errors.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

And it is always best to measure length is the Flaccid, Bone-pressed state as this measurement will be consistent and only change when growth occurs. When measuring erect there are many things that can cause eq issues, hence measurement errors.

True that measuring whit an apparently erect penis can get you dissapointing results.i remember measuring sometimes i was 6 inches and two or three day later i was 6.5.

i measured three days later n iwas almost 6...strange situations..n is really dissapointing and frustrating too.

 

[acromegaly]

Hey guys it's been a while. I just have a question for you guys.

Do you guys believe there are 2 layers in gains?

1 being Permanent Gains and the other Temporary Visible Gains. I just associate Permanent gains with BPFSL and Temporary Visible Gains with BPEL

temporary gains becomes permanent over time, keep at it bro

 

[DLD]

True that measuring whit an apparently erect penis can get you dissapointing results.i remember measuring sometimes i was 6 inches and two or three day later i was 6.5.

i measured three days later n iwas almost 6...strange situations..n is really dissapointing and frustrating too.

I never cared for erect measurements, they always carried and one day would bring me joy and the next depression. For me the only way to chart length gains is through the Bone-Pressed, Flaccid Stretch. I know this is not me real erect measurement but at least I know it is a solid measurement and when there is gains there I know the erect gains will follow.

 

[huge-girth]

Temporary gains are the gains that get us to permanent gains. In girth we are looking to increase our size beyond our best normal measurement. SO if you are 5" solid girth when erect you will want to bring that to .25"-.5" beyond normal. This is temporary but in the expansion and consistency of making this happen gains become permanent and a new temporary see fills its place. The same applies to length in the sense that gains will show up in flaccid-stretches bone-pressed before they show up in Bone-Pressed Erect Length. In this case the same applies, we are looking to elongate a bit beyond normal to make these gains and to follow up with erect stretching secure these temp. gains.

What I like about the temporary girth gains is that it increases over time. Now if I do a girth session, my temporary expansion would be bigger than ever before.

 

[DLD]

What I like about the temporary girth gains is that it increases over time. Now if I do a girth session, my temporary expansion would be bigger than ever before.

Girth building on girth, stretching the Tunica, making way for new, bigger gains. Repeat, repeat and repeat!

 

[huge-girth]

Girth building on girth, stretching the Tunica, making way for new, bigger gains. Repeat, repeat and repeat!

That's the secret right there.

 

[DLD]

That's the secret right there.

Progress built on progress. Girth is a strange animal but with the right training, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words], you will make amazing gains. We already know what limits girth gains and now we know how to get by that limitation by doing Bundled Stretches, prestretching the Tunica is pure brilliance and such an easy remedy, I just wish I realized this earlier when I made Bundled Stretches back in 2003! It was not until 3 years ago that we realized the true potential!

 

[huge-girth]

Progress built on progress. Girth is a strange animal but with the right training, [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words], you will make amazing gains. We already know what limits girth gains and now we know how to get by that limitation by doing Bundled Stretches, prestretching the Tunica is pure brilliance and such an easy remedy, I just wish I realized this earlier when I made Bundled Stretches back in 2003! It was not until 3 years ago that we realized the true potential!

Once I stop length work by January 14th, I won't be able to do bundled stretches anymore. I want to believe my Tunica must have being well deformed enough by that time. Is that correct?

 

[DLD]

Once I stop length work by January 14th, I won't be able to do bundled stretches anymore. I want to believe my Tunica must have being well deformed enough by that time. Is that correct?

To the point they are. Once the Tunica is stretched it can not be unstretched, it is far too dense for any elastic return. If you find your gains to still be needed you will need to further stretch the Tunica to make new gains.

 

[huge-girth]

To the point they are. Once the Tunica is stretched it can not be unstretched, it is far too dense for any elastic return. If you find your gains to still be needed you will need to further stretch the Tunica to make new gains.

Like I stated in another thread, I'm seeing the possibility of resuming girth work in combination with length work come September.

 

[DLD]

Like I stated in another thread, I'm seeing the possibility of resuming girth work in combination with length work come September.

As I have written in the past, girth helps length and length helps girth. The penis expands in all directions when enlarging.

 

[huge-girth]

As I have written in the past, girth helps length and length helps girth. The penis expands in all directions when enlarging.

I'm already seeing this manifest on my penis.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

As I have written in the past, girth helps length and length helps girth. The penis expands in all directions when enlarging.

This is the logic I employ daily

 

[DLD]

This is the logic I employ daily

It simply is a truth, when anything expands it does so in all directions.

Old Post:


I have read many posts in my time on the impact of girth effecting length and visa-versa. Some men believe training girth may hinder length gains and I want to debate this. In my opinion Length and Girth not only complement each other but a small gain in both directions increase the total size of your penis then if you made the same gain in any single area

I hear people comparing the penis to rope or a rubber band stating that it is easier to stretch a thinner rope or band in comparison to a thicker one. I completely agree with this theory but I feel it is a poor penile comparison. The penis is more like a balloon as it is filled with blood when we get an erection and emptied when we are flaccid.

The reason I debate this is simple you can't fill a rope with liquid so it is impossible to expand the rope through increasing thickness. But you can expand a balloon length and thickness by increasing its load capacity. When you fill a balloon past it’s capacity it not only grows wider but longer too. The penis is very similar to balloon in that when we fill it with blood during an erection it expands outward and upward.

With that said I think it is a bad decision to neglect girth in hopes for better length gains. I have always trained both Length and Girth with as much intensity as the other with very good results.