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I have been experimenting with wrapping the base for bathmate sessions and it really increases comfort in the scrotum region that usually gets sucked in the BM or just hurts from the tight seal of the gaiter. The wrap at the base keeps the scrotum out of the way and makes the bathmate sessions better from what I’ve seen. Only done a few sessions so far. The method I use to secure the wrap involves those Velcro cable organizers – about 5-6” long very thin piece of Velcro that I just use to secure the wrap. So my question is if half of my penis, the base, is wrapped and the upper shaft is not wrapped, will both areas gain the same girth? I know I read somewhere that wrapping in the BM doesn’t or shouldn’t affect girth gains but what if only the base is wrapped? Would this result in the baseball bat effect? Also, I have uploaded a picture of how I have been using the wrap. This is my first pic post so… there she is. The Velcro strap is not stretchy, so I don’t secure it very tightly but let’s say I get a temporary inch of girth expansion, would the fact that the Velcro doesn’t stretch or expand with my dick hinder anything? Similar to the wrap at the base? Perhaps not allowing for any expansion or gains where the Velcro is secured? I take it off between sets and it does seem like the unwrapped portion gets more expansion than the wrapped portion. Let me know what you guys think about the way I am fastening it and if there is anything I can improve on. Thanks dudes.

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Look fine to me and quite a smart idea. As long as the wrap is not so tight that it holds back expansion you will be just fine. I look forward to future posts and seeing how effective this method is. Good modification idea!
 
doublelongdaddy;726361 said:
Look fine to me and quite a smart idea. As long as the wrap is not so tight that it holds back expansion you will be just fine. I look forward to future posts and seeing how effective this method is. Good modification idea!

Well I can't take credit for the wrap idea but I may have been the first to use those little velcro cable organizers. They have been go-to method for fastening the ACE wrap whether I'm traction wrapping or wrapping for bathmate. I do think that the wrap was probably a little too tight but I recall reading somewhere that the tight wrap wouldn't inhibit growth.... but it probably would. I'll loosen the wrap up and continue using. I like it a little tight because it keeps the blood in there for an "extended" period of time. I also can vouch for this method to reduce many of the problems beginners have with the bathmate!!!! The wrap keeps the extra skin of the scrotum from being sucked in the tube so reduced pain on the sack and the balls stay where they're supposed to so they don't hurt either! No pain in the spermatic cords and the suction seems more intense too! And also strictly targets the shaft instead of wasted pressure on the balls lol. I am currently experimenting with the ACE self adhesive wrap and it would be great if it wasn't so stiff and coarse! Not very comfortable...
 
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jorgsmashh;726384 said:
Well I can't take credit for the wrap idea but I may have been the first to use those little velcro cable organizers. They have been go-to method for fastening the ACE wrap whether I'm traction wrapping or wrapping for bathmate. I do think that the wrap was probably a little too tight but I recall reading somewhere that the tight wrap wouldn't inhibit growth.... but it probably would. I'll loosen the wrap up and continue using. I like it a little tight because it keeps the blood in there for an "extended" period of time. I also can vouch for this method to reduce many of the problems beginners have with the bathmate!!!! The wrap keeps the extra skin of the scrotum from being sucked in the tube so reduced pain on the sack and the balls stay where they're supposed to so they don't hurt either! No pain in the spermatic cords and the suction seems more intense too! And also strictly targets the shaft instead of wasted pressure on the balls lol. I am currently experimenting with the ACE self adhesive wrap and it would be great if it wasn't so stiff and coarse! Not very comfortable...

Yeah, the self adhesive sucks, painful, stiff, itching, sticky, the worse. Maybe find something different completely, maybe try Theraban (exercise bands) or something like that, may serve the same purpose without the pain.
 
Wrapping like that is a fine idea.

I'd say Friar's Fige's Armor (should be found with that on the board) shares the ideology about this wrapping while in the pump.

So, wrapping with either suitable wrap (these vary a lot, I personally don't have a lot of experience) or using a cock ring / sleeve. (Titanmen Cockcage is one I've used, halved.)
Definitely can help with that ball suckage and also targeting the shaft enlargement better.

Thanks for bringing this up jorgsmashh! There are good mods and methods to PE that get buried in the flow of the forum.
 
What is Friar's Fige's Armor?
 
arkailija;726545 said:
Found it! http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/bathmate-hercules-goliath-hydromax-x20-x30-x40-x50-and-hydromax-xtreme-hydropump-forum/85780-friar-figes-bm-ironman-armor.html

There's a vast amount of information; the search engine just doesn't work always so great, but I recall you saying (DLD) to try using Google and it worked.

Long live the Brotherhood!

Yes, Google is a much better search engine than any other search engine. I am really looking forward to LIGHTNING installing google as the forum search engine.

Also, thanks for the thread on riar's Fige's Armor.
 
So to comment more on the subject, I have been loving the wrap technique while using the BM. I also try to wrap afterwards and as much as possible throughout the day. When wrapping immediately after a BM session I get a slight bit of puffiness right above the wrap and right under the glans where the wrap doesnt cover. This is fine and normal, I think the wrap pushes up some of the fluid to the very tip. I also wrap in the mornings and try to stay wrapped as long as I can. I am starting to notice a ring right under my glans. Can't tell if it's under the skin or just discoloration or if it will fade over time if I stop wrapping. I wrap from tip to base and then fasten it with the velcro strap seen above and kinda make it snug so that my head engorges. My head will stay swelled up for as long as I keep the wrap on but it doesn't turn purple or blue or get cold. It stays nice and warm and pink/redish. However when I look at my dick out of the wrap I notice the ring forming right under the glans. Could this cause permanent deformation or discoloration in that small area that doesn't get wrapped just below the glans?
 
It will fade over a few days, it is not permanent. ACE wrap or the like will cause indentations, wrinkles and the like but these are all temporary and will go away on their own in time.
 
doublelongdaddy;726786 said:
It will fade over a few days, it is not permanent. ACE wrap or the like will cause indentations, wrinkles and the like but these are all temporary and will go away on their own in time.

So I have been using the BM wrapped exclusively now. The suction is way better and there's no discomfort in the balls. I'll upload some progress pics. The first one is after a BM session and some SSJs. I still am unsure if I am performing the SSJs right, as I have seen a video a member posted where he shows how he does them and it was way different than what I had been doing. I still think I like the bends better. Can you elaborate more on how to do the SSJs? First off, I don't see how they can be done with a full erection - the penis is too rigid to manipulate in that state. I use a 40-80% erection, with the middle of that range being where I feel the most expansion. I am concerned though that I could be setting myself up to have the "baseball bat" effect. I use the wrap in the BM, which doesn't prohibit the base from expanding, but immediately when I take the BM off, I see the 1.5" of the wrap, then the next 1.5" of my dick is slightly reddish-purple, just below the circumcision scar, and then the remainder of my shaft and head are normal. The discoloration fades within seconds, and is by no means a full shade of purple, just dark... but I don't understand why it's just the middle section of the shaft. Then, while performing SSJs, I am grabbing the base and squeezing, which doesn't contribute to any expansion of the base where it is gripped. I also experience minimal bruising (small purple spots) where I grip the base. I can't perform the exercise without gripping hard. Then to top it all off I usually wrap the base to keep expanded (as pictured) and keep that on for as long as time allows. All of this restriction at the base leads me to believe that my base will not grow much, or as fast as the rest. Keep in mind I don't wrap with much tension while using the BM. I have a great method for securing the wrap that I will post at a later time. The next picture is my first real BPFSL measurement I have taken. Holding the stretch and ruler with one hand is hard so maximum stretch wasn't achieved, but I was able to get 6.75" BPFSL with two hands! Yay. So DLD, do you think that there is any reason to believe I could be constricting base girth gains? What should I do for base girth? Thanks bro.

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jorgsmashh;728246 said:
So I have been using the BM wrapped exclusively now. The suction is way better and there's no discomfort in the balls. I'll upload some progress pics. The first one is after a BM session and some SSJs. I still am unsure if I am performing the SSJs right, as I have seen a video a member posted where he shows how he does them and it was way different than what I had been doing. I still think I like the bends better. Can you elaborate more on how to do the SSJs? First off, I don't see how they can be done with a full erection - the penis is too rigid to manipulate in that state. I use a 40-80% erection, with the middle of that range being where I feel the most expansion. I am concerned though that I could be setting myself up to have the "baseball bat" effect. I use the wrap in the BM, which doesn't prohibit the base from expanding, but immediately when I take the BM off, I see the 1.5" of the wrap, then the next 1.5" of my dick is slightly reddish-purple, just below the circumcision scar, and then the remainder of my shaft and head are normal. The discoloration fades within seconds, and is by no means a full shade of purple, just dark... but I don't understand why it's just the middle section of the shaft. Then, while performing SSJs, I am grabbing the base and squeezing, which doesn't contribute to any expansion of the base where it is gripped. I also experience minimal bruising (small purple spots) where I grip the base. I can't perform the exercise without gripping hard. Then to top it all off I usually wrap the base to keep expanded (as pictured) and keep that on for as long as time allows. All of this restriction at the base leads me to believe that my base will not grow much, or as fast as the rest. Keep in mind I don't wrap with much tension while using the BM. I have a great method for securing the wrap that I will post at a later time. The next picture is my first real BPFSL measurement I have taken. Holding the stretch and ruler with one hand is hard so maximum stretch wasn't achieved, but I was able to get 6.75" BPFSL with two hands! Yay. So DLD, do you think that there is any reason to believe I could be constricting base girth gains? What should I do for base girth? Thanks bro.

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First, The SlowSquashJelq only starts out erect, you should subside to about 90%. If you have a membership to the Members site here is the video: 401 Authorization Required if not here is a youtube version:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/o3BULlRgRr0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> these videos should help you understand better. There is never any point off doing girth work below the amount of expansion you get, meaning if you get 20% expansion at 80% erect you are only getting to your normal girth size, causing no expansion. So let us say you get that same 20% at 90% erect, now you have gained 10% expansion bringing gains. So whatever exercise you choose for girth these rules should be applied.

The best way to tell if the wrap is causing issues is through measuring. Measure before and after to see if there is expansion consistent with the remainder of your shaft. From the pictures your penis is looking excellent.
 
doublelongdaddy;728282 said:
First, The SlowSquashJelq only starts out erect, you should subside to about 90%. If you have a membership to the Members site here is the video: 401 Authorization Required if not here is a youtube version:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/o3BULlRgRr0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> these videos should help you understand better. There is never any point off doing girth work below the amount of expansion you get, meaning if you get 20% expansion at 80% erect you are only getting to your normal girth size, causing no expansion. So let us say you get that same 20% at 90% erect, now you have gained 10% expansion bringing gains. So whatever exercise you choose for girth these rules should be applied.

The best way to tell if the wrap is causing issues is through measuring. Measure before and after to see if there is expansion consistent with the remainder of your shaft. From the pictures your penis is looking excellent.

Wow thanks for the video and the complement! My main goal is more length but I'm happy to gain some girth along the way! I do other exercises as well, as I know the BM is not the best tool for length. I will post some more pics of my new method for securing the wrap to use in the BM. It secures the wrap and allows for expansion as well. Maybe I can get to 7" erect length soon!? I can get passed the 7" mark on my X30 at max pressure, but that doesn't translate to a 7" hard dick haha. BTW I assume that's you in the video? I've never seen those vids before so it's nice to put a face to the 'DLD' name. You're packin an 11" dong sitting there? Haha.
 
So my new and improved wrapping method is a light wrap at the base secured by a light self-adhesive ACE wrap strip. The strip is about 1/2" wide by about 5" non-stretched, 9" stretched in length. The self-adhesive ace wrap is just as stretchy as the regular ACE wrap, so it expands great. Also, its extremely reusable. I can use the same strip for weeks or longer. Really however long you want. Since it gets wet every use, it stays sticky. The only downside is the wraps can start to smell funky after a while because they are always wet. Haven't got the hang of the order the pics upload in, but one of them is with the new wrap method, and another is a progress pic after today's workout with a wrap and hair tie to keep expansion. In the pic I didn't have much fluid buildup at all. I kept that on for about an hour and I was looking huge until I took it off and realized I had a lot of fluid retention. Will more fluid come into the penis after a BM session if you keep a tight wrap on?

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jorgsmashh;728387 said:
So my new and improved wrapping method is a light wrap at the base secured by a light self-adhesive ACE wrap strip. The strip is about 1/2" wide by about 5" non-stretched, 9" stretched in length. The self-adhesive ace wrap is just as stretchy as the regular ACE wrap, so it expands great. Also, its extremely reusable. I can use the same strip for weeks or longer. Really however long you want. Since it gets wet every use, it stays sticky. The only downside is the wraps can start to smell funky after a while because they are always wet. Haven't got the hang of the order the pics upload in, but one of them is with the new wrap method, and another is a progress pic after today's workout with a wrap and hair tie to keep expansion. In the pic I didn't have much fluid buildup at all. I kept that on for about an hour and I was looking huge until I took it off and realized I had a lot of fluid retention. Will more fluid come into the penis after a BM session if you keep a tight wrap on?

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You don't and the self adhesive to harsh on the skin? To me it is too itchy and irritating.
 
doublelongdaddy;728418 said:
You don't and the self adhesive to harsh on the skin? To me it is too itchy and irritating.

The self-adhesive wrap only comes into contact with the regular ace wrap. You can see in the pic. It is just used to fasten the loose end of the regular ace wrap. So both wraps can still expand. It has been working great. Also, the regular ace wrap is about 1.5" wide and the sticky wrap is only about .5" wide so there is wiggle room on both sides. The trick is to keep everything very LIGHT.
 
bandit2010;728454 said:
how has the wrapping with the bathmate going, because I have started having issues with gator bite.

To put it simply - I can't use the bathmate without wrapping anymore. I wont! I tried the other day and the discomfort was unbearable. It's like night and day. The discomfort I experienced when I first got the bathmate I thought would just get used to, but this wrapping method keeps your balls where they should be and somehow makes better suction and seal. Just keep the bathmate upright when pumping, especially with the initial pump and the few that follow so you don't have any leaks. The process can take a week or two get used to but I won't go back.
 
jorgsmashh;728449 said:
The self-adhesive wrap only comes into contact with the regular ace wrap. You can see in the pic. It is just used to fasten the loose end of the regular ace wrap. So both wraps can still expand. It has been working great. Also, the regular ace wrap is about 1.5" wide and the sticky wrap is only about .5" wide so there is wiggle room on both sides. The trick is to keep everything very LIGHT.

OK, I got you. I was gonna say, Ouch! :)
 
doublelongdaddy;728495 said:
OK, I got you. I was gonna say, Ouch! :)

Every time I do a Bathmate session and supplement with SSJs, I get some pretty unsightly purple spots at the base where I grip my cock. Am I gripping too hard? I can't really do the SSJs if I grip any less because it doesn't keep the blood in. Is there a way to do them so that there is less bruising? I would like to use the BM and do SSJs 5+ times/week but then my dick would be bruised 100% of the time. They take a couple days to heal. What can I do? Is it ok to constantly have the bruises or is this bad in the long run?
 
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