Chaoskampf;761636 said:
Experiencing roughly the same. Sometimes I feel the urge to use both hands. I wonder what happens if you grow much longer - wouldn't that cause the shaft to develop a tendency for buckling if you stroke with one hand only? Doing it one handed always seems to create a curvature to one side due to the ergonomics of the hand being aligned under an angle to the longitudinal axis of the shaft.

I guess it depends upon how tight your grip is
 
Big Schwanz Acht;761638 said:
I guess it depends upon how tight your grip is

This is how an ergonomic keyboard looks like. As can be seen the lower arms are by nature aligned in a non straight manner. Additionally the hands lie flat on a keyboard. If you are right handed you tend to stroke so that the tip of the shaft points to the left. You would have to twist the right hand clockwise in order to avoid this but that is tiring.

With a second hand coming from the left this can be avoided.

Another thing can be illustrated with a garden hose. A short section of a garden hose will buckle less than a long hose when you try to compress the whole thing. When the cock gets longer this effect becomes more apparent. Again another hand would help. Eventually you need three hands.

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Big Schwanz Acht;761629 said:
MOS and our little, dysfunctional community has done more for me than I can quantify. I've been able to explore my fears/pain/insecurities without judgement or ridicule and healed-up old wounds that I never knew needed healing. And a funny thing happened along the way...my dick got bigger :)

Thanks Clad! Sometimes I forget to stop and appreciate all that I've been afforded here w/you guys


I've been on mixed gender forums and it's totally different from here. Plus there was no collective unity. If someone asked how to build stamina they'd hear about it for months from hecklers. It got so bad shortly before I left that if you posted a picture of something funny in your house and the background wasn't immaculate all the posts would be about how much of a slob you were.

I'd rather be here. Plus my dick is getting bigger!
 
stillwantmore2;761630 said:
About 2 years total time. Keep in mind my past routines were very inconsistent. The average consistent weight hanger gains 1/8" a month, or around 1.5" a year.

When you say the average consistent weight hanger, do you mean someone that uses a lighter weight and hang for only 20 minutes daily?
 
Chaoskampf;761636 said:
Experiencing roughly the same. Sometimes I feel the urge to use both hands. I wonder what happens if you grow much longer - wouldn't that cause the shaft to develop a tendency for buckling if you stroke with one hand only? Doing it one handed always seems to create a curvature to one side due to the ergonomics of the hand being aligned under an angle to the longitudinal axis of the shaft.

This is exactly what caused the right curve I have today. I've been masturbating with my left hand (I'm left handed) for about 15 years now and I believe this caused the right curve I have. Henceforth, I will do my best to masturbate when necessary with the right hand which is going to be difficult and secondly, I will buy a flesh light as quick as possible. Now I know where the right curve came from. I just created a thread about this topic.
 
huge-girth;761678 said:
When you say the average consistent weight hanger, do you mean someone that uses a lighter weight and hang for only 20 minutes daily?

I would say he refers to the instruction that is written in a hanger manual. Exercising 1 - 2 hours per day! I don't do that and I don't want to go there because it is not in line with my schedule. 1/24" length gain per month would be wonderful for me. Unfortunately that is not the case for me.
 
huge-girth;761680 said:
This is exactly what caused the right curve I have today. I've been masturbating with my left hand (I'm left handed) for about 15 years now and I believe this caused the right curve I have. Henceforth, I will do my best to masturbate when necessary with the right hand which is going to be difficult and secondly, I will buy a flesh light as quick as possible. Now I know where the right curve came from. I just created a thread about this topic.

It could be like that. But how do we explain then the people that have a curve which is only visible from the side? Some people have a penis that always goes downstairs when you travel from the base to the tip. It almost looks as if they couldn't get hard which is not the case though. I don't think somebody wanks like this. Some people say that hangers and pumps straighten the penis. I don't see much difference from 1 year of pumping/hanging. But the Phallosan I am now wearing to the right side to counteract.
 
huge-girth;761678 said:
When you say the average consistent weight hanger, do you mean someone that uses a lighter weight and hang for only 20 minutes daily?

I mean a guy who hangs, adapts his penis over time to more and more weight as needed to continue forcing new stretch as new adaptation occurs and who hangs enough sets daily to ride the fatigue. Really simple concept to learn.

As with stretching, a guy cannot use minimum effort and expect consistent results as his penis adapts to the resistance applied. You need to keep increasing the resistance over time.
 
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Chaoskampf;761693 said:
I would say he refers to the instruction that is written in a hanger manual. Exercising 1 - 2 hours per day! I don't do that and I don't want to go there because it is not in line with my schedule. 1/24" length gain per month would be wonderful for me. Unfortunately that is not the case for me.

Not necessarily. If a guy is using enough weight to fatigue the penis and connective tissues to keep forcing new stretch. Hanging more and more time daily vs forcing new stretch as adaptation occurs is an inferior approach.
 
stillwantmore2;761697 said:
Not necessarily. If a guy is using enough weight to fatigue the penis and connective tissues to keep forcing new stretch. Hanging more and more time daily vs forcing new stretch as adaptation occurs is an inferior approach.

I don't have as much knowledge about hanging like you have. I went up until 22.4 lbs but didn't feel like I should go higher due to pain. Now I cycle between 7 lbs and 20 lbs according to how it feels (for instance after pumping I start at a lower weight cause it hurts more). I am just trying to find a sweet spot which feels like a good stretch, not too light, not too strong. I hang during cooking (20 minutes per session) or when I clean the dishes or clean the house (up to 60 minutes per session).

1/24" is about 1mm in the metric system. A gain of 1mm should be measurable if it would occur on a monthly basis. So that is my reference. However in the past 6 months I didn't detect any gains. Average measurement goes up maybe - not too sure. Have to wait another 6 months to collect more data.

At the end of the day hanging feels good so I will continue anyway.
 
stillwantmore2;761696 said:
I mean a guy who hangs, adapts his penis over time to more and more weight as needed to continue forcing new stretch as new adaptation occurs and who hangs enough sets daily to ride the fatigue. Really simple concept to learn.

As with stretching, a guy cannot use minimum effort and expect consistent results as his penis adapts to the resistance applied. You need to keep increasing the resistance over time.

I get your point, I asked the question as if I'm a novice, pardon me :)
 
Chaoskampf;761694 said:
It could be like that. But how do we explain then the people that have a curve which is only visible from the side? Some people have a penis that always goes downstairs when you travel from the base to the tip. It almost looks as if they couldn't get hard which is not the case though. I don't think somebody wanks like this. Some people say that hangers and pumps straighten the penis. I don't see much difference from 1 year of pumping/hanging. But the Phallosan I am now wearing to the right side to counteract.

When I'm erect, the curve is only visible from the side just as you said, not too visible though.
 
Chaoskampf;761699 said:
I don't have as much knowledge about hanging like you have. I went up until 22.4 lbs but didn't feel like I should go higher due to pain. Now I cycle between 7 lbs and 20 lbs according to how it feels (for instance after pumping I start at a lower weight cause it hurts more). I am just trying to find a sweet spot which feels like a good stretch, not too light, not too strong. I hang during cooking (20 minutes per session) or when I clean the dishes or clean the house (up to 60 minutes per session).

1/24" is about 1mm in the metric system. A gain of 1mm should be measurable if it would occur on a monthly basis. So that is my reference. However in the past 6 months I didn't detect any gains. Average measurement goes up maybe - not too sure. Have to wait another 6 months to collect more data.

At the end of the day hanging feels good so I will continue anyway.

How much have you gained from hanging for 1 year? Since I don't have an extender, I'm contemplating hanging for 6 months in combination with my length master routine. But I really do not know how much gains I can make from hanging for 1 hour and also using the length master for 1 hour as well.
 
huge-girth;761729 said:
How much have you gained from hanging for 1 year? Since I don't have an extender, I'm contemplating hanging for 6 months in combination with my length master routine. But I really do not know how much gains I can make from hanging for 1 hour and also using the length master for 1 hour as well.

I have no idea how much I gained. Anything between zero and 1.4". There are not enough measurements from my early days + I bought a wooden ruler during that year + I switched to measuring while standing up because it gave more stable measurements. Nowadays I have so much data that I am able to make predictions much better. As a result I didn't determine any gains after I had good starting measurements. Therefore it could be that all is hocus pocus and gains were just imagined, merely deviations that came from wrong measurements or measurement fluctuation.

Always thought that hanging is the ultimate traditional PE length exercise.

If you hang one hour per day then I think you will be looking at excellent gains assuming that you are the average PE person.
 
Chaoskampf;761748 said:
I have no idea how much I gained. Anything between zero and 1.4". There are not enough measurements from my early days + I bought a wooden ruler during that year + I switched to measuring while standing up because it gave more stable measurements. Nowadays I have so much data that I am able to make predictions much better. As a result I didn't determine any gains after I had good starting measurements. Therefore it could be that all is hocus pocus and gains were just imagined, merely deviations that came from wrong measurements or measurement fluctuation.

Always thought that hanging is the ultimate traditional PE length exercise.

If you hang one hour per day then I think you will be looking at excellent gains assuming that you are the average PE person.

Talking about measuring, what's the difference between sitting and standing when taking a measurement?
 
When you sit down while measuring, you can get a little more of an angle in on the measurement. Leads to a slightly longer measure. Then again if you always measure the same way, does it matter?
 
stillwantmore2;761762 said:
When you sit down while measuring, you can get a little more of an angle in on the measurement. Leads to a slightly longer measure. Then again if you always measure the same way, does it matter?

I have always measured seated, and I have always measured from the same place anchored against bone, this way my measurements are consistent.
 
huge-girth;761759 said:
Talking about measuring, what's the difference between sitting and standing when taking a measurement?

Same thinking as Stillwantmore said. When I am sitting the ruler quickly moves to positions which let the ruler to sink in deeper as usual.
 
huge-girth;761866 said:
Alright, so I will be measuring while sitting down.

Best way, comfortable and sitting down is easier to coordinate than standing.
 
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