I do want to own at least one of them (wouldn't mind owning both to be honest) but the biggest factor for me right now would be a financial thing. Not that they are terribly expensive compared to most things people spend their money on, it's just that right now my disposable income doesn't like the pricing lol. So for the time being I am going to be doing manual only work which isn't so bad because I have only been serious about PE less than 6 months. I would probably get the bathmate first cause it seems like a fun device to use but goal wise, the lengthmaster would be the best investment for me.

Hopefully if I am able to get one anytime soon, my living conditions will permit their use.
 
Explaining to my wife why I want/need one and justifying the cost to her. She may take the whole idea of PE wrong.

If I got them for free (or managed to free up and then stash away the money so she thought it was free) I guess she couldn't complain about cost.

I'd find a way to buy a Bathmate right now if she knew about my PE and approved of it.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;725784 said:
my suggestion would be to n-e-v-e-r divulge any PE doings...e-v-e-r

fecking bad, sharing our gains is ok, but sharing why and how we get bigger is a bad idea..... Lets call this a Paradox Right?
 
Big Schwanz Acht;725784 said:
my suggestion would be to n-e-v-e-r divulge any PE doings...e-v-e-r

She's bound to notice eventually if I start making decent gains and will eventually have to find out. I wish I could find a way to tell her now so I don't have to sneak it around her.
 
LONGERDICK7+;725786 said:
fecking bad, sharing our gains is ok, but sharing why and how we get bigger is a bad idea..... Lets call this a Paradox Right?

My opinion is that when she finds out if she totally loses it, tries to tell me that I'm wrong, and says she doesn't want to be with me then I'll move on with my life. It's something I want, it isn't hurting anyone, and if she's got a serious issue with it then I don't need that in my life. If I was going to the gym 5x a week and getting my body back into to shape she wouldn't complain one bit. I understand the insane jealousy some women get for irrational reasons but it's nothing to complain about.

And how is she to explain a divorce if that happened? "My ex husband made his penis larger to where it was above average size. It was still perfectly usable, nothing wrong with it at all, but I divorced him because if it."
 
cladre60;725787 said:
She's bound to notice eventually if I start making decent gains and will eventually have to find out. I wish I could find a way to tell her now so I don't have to sneak it around her.

letting her know why you are getting bigger,can be quite strange for her dont you think most people thinks that penis wont change its size once is fully developed...id call it late Genitalia Development...LOL

But yeah can be hard to explain no doubt..:)
 
cladre60;725789 said:
My opinion is that when she finds out if she totally loses it, tries to tell me that I'm wrong, and says she doesn't want to be with me then I'll move on with my life. It's something I want, it isn't hurting anyone, and if she's got a serious issue with it then I don't need that in my life. If I was going to the gym 5x a week and getting my body back into to shape she wouldn't complain one bit. I understand the insane jealousy some women get for irrational reasons but it's nothing to complain about.

And how is she to explain a divorce if that happened? "My ex husband made his penis larger to where it was above average size. It was still perfectly usable, nothing wrong with it at all, but I divorced him because if it."

you're assuming she's rational and thinks logically? That's not any chapter in The Vagina Owners Manual
 
My wife knows and is completely cool with it. When I told her she literally said makes since if that's what you want girls get bigger tits all the time and no one bats an eye.

I'm not saying all females are like this but mine is cool and I think it's be extremely hard to hide using a bm and all witha spouse. Everyone on here has a opinion but only you know your spouse and how she is. I say go with what you know man. Again not trying to start a pissing match but before people say oh well she will change bla bla well we've been together for 8 years and she knew about me and pe since like month 2. I dabbled with extender years back but didn't stay consistent because I hated it. When I started back up I let her know and she again said the same shit. She said it's cool with me so long as it's what you want but also said I personally am happy the way it is but never had any arguments or issues ever over this.

Hope this can help some guys who are in the fence about this issue. Also sorry I've been so inactive lately I'm work 14-16 hour days 7 days a week for this whole month and next haha.
 
cladre60;725787 said:
She's bound to notice eventually if I start making decent gains and will eventually have to find out. I wish I could find a way to tell her now so I don't have to sneak it around her.

Just tell her!! Things will be so much easier, and better, if you do!! That's what I did! I've got somebody to cheer me on now!! I just told her, I want to start doing this.....and I'm going to......I'm doing it for me, and I hope you benefit too! She says she loves my progress!!
 
Adamtf1982;725804 said:
Just tell her!! Things will be so much easier, and better, if you do!! That's what I did! I've got somebody to cheer me on now!! I just told her, I want to start doing this.....and I'm going to......I'm doing it for me, and I hope you benefit too! She says she loves my progress!!

Wow thats support !
 
LONGERDICK7+;725806 said:
Wow thats support !

I agree! She's always been supportive, no matter what.....not just with PE, but every day shit...... But, if you commit to this.....you're starting a process, to change the one most intimate thing, and, in most cases anyway, the one thing that you and her only share basically........so, in my mind, there are only two scenarios..........either you half ass, and she never notices, which means, you really didn't gain.........or, hey.....women aren't stupid......they know, as a 40yr old man, it's not going to naturally grow!! So, if you go all in, and you do get substantial gains, and don't get caught red handed, or from your equipment........she WILL notice! If she doesn't, what's the point people!!!! I mean, how can a married man, have a 2" gain goal, and try to hide the process it will take to get there???? I've always wondered what the difference is with some people.......the difference between some of us, who have made substantial gains, and those that claim to have been doing PE for years, without gains at all.........I'm beginning to wonder, if that isn't the difference! I know how hard I've worked for the gains I've gotten, in the last 6 months, and I'm pretty confident, that there's no way I could've gotten them, without being transparent about the whole thing! There is no way, I could've kept up my aggressive routine, and kept it a secret!! So.....lol, I think from now on, when somebody asks, "how have you gained so much, in such a short time", I'm gonna just say, "I told my wife"! 😂 I'm not trying to discourage anybody, that for whatever reason, just absolutely can't share it.....I say get in what you can, when you can......but, I am ENCOURAGING most guys out there, that are hiding it, just cause they are too awkward about it, to discuss that shit!!! I promise, it will pay off, and I really believe, you will gain more faster!!! Hey......just my 2 cents........good luck brothers......we'll all get there, if we put in the work!!!!
 
With the bathmate I was told by the company they do not ship to my country. So when I traveled to Europe I bought it.
 
Adamtf1982;725811 said:
I agree! She's always been supportive, no matter what.....not just with PE, but every day shit...... But, if you commit to this.....you're starting a process, to change the one most intimate thing, and, in most cases anyway, the one thing that you and her only share basically........so, in my mind, there are only two scenarios..........either you half ass, and she never notices, which means, you really didn't gain.........or, hey.....women aren't stupid......they know, as a 40yr old man, it's not going to naturally grow!! So, if you go all in, and you do get substantial gains, and don't get caught red handed, or from your equipment........she WILL notice! If she doesn't, what's the point people!!!! I mean, how can a married man, have a 2" gain goal, and try to hide the process it will take to get there???? I've always wondered what the difference is with some people.......the difference between some of us, who have made substantial gains, and those that claim to have been doing PE for years, without gains at all.........I'm beginning to wonder, if that isn't the difference! I know how hard I've worked for the gains I've gotten, in the last 6 months, and I'm pretty confident, that there's no way I could've gotten them, without being transparent about the whole thing! There is no way, I could've kept up my aggressive routine, and kept it a secret!! So.....lol, I think from now on, when somebody asks, "how have you gained so much, in such a short time", I'm gonna just say, "I told my wife"! 😂 I'm not trying to discourage anybody, that for whatever reason, just absolutely can't share it.....I say get in what you can, when you can......but, I am ENCOURAGING most guys out there, that are hiding it, just cause they are too awkward about it, to discuss that shit!!! I promise, it will pay off, and I really believe, you will gain more faster!!! Hey......just my 2 cents........good luck brothers......we'll all get there, if we put in the work!!!!

I totally agree, my wife has seen my bathmate and my extender, and she thought it was weird at first. Now she is cool with it, and I've gained 1 1/4" in length and 5/8" in girth in about two years and she isn't complaining (except about being sore) haha! She really likes the aesthetics and always wants to play with it which is a huge plus!
 
yep the LM may squeeze the penis but what about the stretching ,the stretching is amazing...The BM suction is damn powerful too besides is not that hard to notice the temporary gains that can turn into permanent gains...

I dont think theres a perfect device theres always improvement. But you have used those devices and you have achieved great results! gains is what really matters in the end
 
cladre60;725789 said:
If I was going to the gym 5x a week and getting my body back into to shape she wouldn't complain one bit.

Why aren't you already doing this? I know this is a PE forum, so our priorities can get a bit fucked, but lifting is seriously one of the most important things a man can ever do.
 
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