Why an ordinary person cannot get out of the rat race!!!

There is so much talk of money and how it is made. but do we really know how it is produced?
Money As Debt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVkFb26u9g8

Money As Debt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_doYllBk5No



I have so many things i would like to do but if you cannot get major credit and willing to die in the debt race you are not eligible for even starting your own business.

We are never born free until we fight the real war! Bankers must be fought since they control us, not the government!

Its a bastard. In the UK 10% have all the money, probably the same everywhere and they dont suffer like the rest. We have football players on £250,000 a week!!! I mean talk about taking the piss when a mother and her kids with no job are scraping together for a loaf of bread and milk.

I want to setup a business one day but not sure what in. Either be Animals or technology. I have even thought about ����, directing and acting. Me and DLD would make a good team. One day who knows what may happen. Certainly have a talent pool from MOS to choose from

I hear ya bro, awareness is the key and people need to know that harder work won't save us, only fair distribution of goods and intellectual properties!

It does make me angry when some of these very wealthy people with millions and millions just hide it all away and dont want to help others more. Yes one could say that I wouldn't be saying this if I had £50 million but you know what? seriously as god is my witness I would do so much good such as business for people with no home and make it free, invest into youth projects so they get off the streets and have education and for free.

These rich cats can give so much for free to help people but they dont. You do get some and Bill Gates, Lord Allan Sugar and Sir Richard Branston are good examples of rich cats that help poorer people. Thats helping your fellow man ... I could never imagine having millions and millions of pounds but sure know I could never sit in my mansion SLASH castle knowing that people are on the bones of their ass with nothing when I have everything .... how do people do this? must be so fucking selfish and we see it in the tabloids daily with these horrible singers who so love themselves, they break a nail and the world has ended or they miss out on a deal like that false girl Cheryl Cole and its tears .... they need to smell the air and realize they are blessed in a great position so like it and help others.

Since the 70's the wealth inequality has grown in the US, and is now at a record level.

It is the Jews fault

Wang Chung;416427 said:

Since the 70's the wealth inequality has grown in the US, and is now at a record level.

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Ah, but incomes have risen for everyone, as has the standard of living. "Wealth inequality" is a meaningless term in a free society IMO.

If your income goes up by $5,000 next year, and your neighbor's income goes up by $100,000, you're still better off than you were last year. It's a waste of time to expend energy worrying about how much everyone else has.

Just my 2 cents.

pecsofsteel;416528 said:

Ah, but incomes have risen for everyone, as has the standard of living. "Wealth inequality" is a meaningless term in a free society IMO.

If your income goes up by $5,000 next year, and your neighbor's income goes up by $100,000, you're still better off than you were last year. It's a waste of time to expend energy worrying about how much everyone else has.

Just my 2 cents.

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Your two cents are why things are the way they are, nobody cares....just take care of your own ass...who cares if the majority is suffering...pure Wall street thinking, you make a hell of a biz guy...no feelings, just manual carnivorous behavior....

Alex78;416532 said:

Your two cents are why things are the way they are, nobody cares....just take care of your own ass...who cares if the majority is suffering...pure Wall street thinking, you make a hell of a biz guy...no feelings, just manual carnivorous behavior....

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Yes, my thinking is exactly why things are the way they are.

My thinking is why the United States--and other Western Democracies, to varying extents--is full of opportunity and prosperity.

My thinking is why there are no starvation deaths from poverty in the United States. The government doesn't even keep statistics on it, because it just never happens. The only time it does is when someone breaks a leg in the woods and accidentally starves--things that have nothing to do with poverty.

My thinking--a belief in free market capitalism--has brought more prosperity to more people than any other system ever devised by man.

And people who share in my thinking are far more generous than people who think like you. On average, people who do not believe in income redistribution and attend religious services regularly give away 100 times more to all charities (and 50 times more to secular charities) than people who don't go to church and believe in income redistribution.

I have no idea what "manual carnivorous behavior" is, but you're way off base.

Well to say that US is an economy powered by itself is really dumb since 90% of what they market is produced outside.
You are the most leeching society there is and will stop at nothing to deforest,plunder or in another way destroy an economy to get the products under price.

Economic hit mans are the normal tactics which US uses to get other countries to sell their natural resources below price and in debt them to the degree that they are in actual slavery conditions to them!
Only Americans really subscribe to the theory that all wars are actually made by foreigners and America comes to save the day!
Whenever America is low on cash a new war is started an more debt is created to perpetuate the ongoing system which is fake and produces more than the earth can provide only for the sake of consumerism...

To say that America leads the way in charity, what happened after New Orleans? What did the government do... Nothing...everything is the same...that is why there are no borders and the 3 world people live within you and do not have the same privileges...
Democracy is a myth just like socialism, only systems of control, until you see that the banking system is sending your children at war and not some terrorist you will never look at them as just some paper pushers...
They push death at a large scale...
Watch Zeitgeist all three parts and those above i listed...
Not every American lives on a burger daily and preaches free market just because his daddy told him so...

haha yes Americans are to blame for all the world's troubles. I'm sure the British never had their own colonies... oh wait a minute

Zeitgeist? Aww okay now I know all I need to know about the direction of this thread.

PudendaPleasure;416567 said:

Zeitgeist? Aww okay now I know all I need to know about the direction of this thread.

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Ok and tell me, beyond the Zeitgeist and Money as Debt what are your counter documentaries for praising these obsolete systems that govern us?

And of course why should we not change them?

Of Course
[video=youtube;Pg5K07c72Tw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg5K07c72Tw[/video]

The government is the goose that lays the golden egg. Yeah the goose is fat and needs to go on a diet but if you kill the goose you have no golden eggs. I'm currently a proponent of Ron Paul.

Actually this guy backs the big ideas of Zeitgeist but doesn't agree on the small ones!

Technology steals jobs, sure some jobs are to be closed and people trained over...but how many 2%, 3%?
The thing is most of the now manual jobs will become obsolete in years to come, more and more do robots fill the gap of making cars,furniture,any type of material to be made... and we are talking hundreds of thousands of people laid off,this guy does not care he is at the top of the food chain, probably owns stocks of a company and lives in a bubble of information tech that is not real and actually just produces sili application which do not benefit nobody in the long run!

The biggest givers in the world, like Tesla, Einstein or some other genius did not work to get rich but for the pleasure of the work itself, money was just to buy some important stuff, but this guy works to get money and never gives important solution that benefits...

How can you stand behind a system in which 4% of the people control the world?
Governments should not fall only be larger and controlled by smaller ones which are the people!

I do not see eye to eye with 10% of Zeitgeist but i do with 90%

This kind of propaganda is happening because we do not have equality and a transparent system but a monopoly hidden one by the names such as democracy or a free market...

Money is debt and if this guy would have known that the government has only few % of it in real paper how in the world can you get more?
You need to take credit and make them print it!

I would not get rid of money but sure would restrict governments to have 1:1 ratio to back it up and not 1:9 or higher!

Dude, you're all over the map.

How about this: I'll commit to watch zeitgeist and the two other videos you posted at the top if you'll commit to watch Milton Freidman's Free to Choose series. How does that sound?

Well Zeitgeist is all over the map it covers many issues!

You mean this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4
Ok i'll check it out...

pecsofsteel;416620 said:

Dude, you're all over the map.

How about this: I'll commit to watch zeitgeist and the two other videos you posted at the top if you'll commit to watch Milton Freidman's Free to Choose series. How does that sound?

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Thanks for reminding me of this. I think its time for me to watch it again.

Alex78;416675 said:

Well Zeitgeist is all over the map it covers many issues!

You mean this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3N2sNnGwa4
Ok i'll check it out...

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That's the one. I'll try to get to those videos some time this weekend.

No prob. And you have an awesome screen name...PudendaPleasure, haha. I need to change mine. It sounds queer.