Why an ordinary person cannot get out of the rat race!!!

Things always heat up when money is brought into the picture Someone send me some donations! I need some new sneakers!

Watch: food inc if you wanna talk about eating and usa. But be warned your hamburger will be ruined the rest of your life!!!

I've asked alex78 before, and I'll put the challenge to him again: What have YOU actually done, actually accomplished, what effort have you, yourself-live-and-in-person actually expended, above and beyond shaking your impotent little fist in self-righteous (yet impotent) rage against all these hordes of rapacious hobgoblins which seem to occupy your every waking thought?

Like I told you before; produce evidence of actual results...or shut the fuck up.

This is a website dedicated to positivity and accomplishment; your negative, defeatist bullshit is a complete anathema, diametrically opposed to everything here. It doesn't belong.

And if you persist neither will you.

No question that inequity grows in America, and I believe the "conspiracy theory" that they (bankers & Govt) are trying to get rid of the middle class.... which means they want elitism. Evidence of it everywhere. However, currently, if you have good credit and a sharp mind, you can still make excellent investments and make good money and begin a snowball effect. I represent investors, especially newbie investors a bit. I had one last year I helped make $125,000 in one year. They only invested $25,000, so that's a 500% return on investment.

There is money to be made... but Max is right, nobody ever got a thing by whining. Personally, I'm hoping Alex starts assassinating the banksters and then comes back to report his accomplishments, think I'm expecting too much?

MAXAMEYES;430684 said:

I've asked alex78 before, and I'll put the challenge to him again: What have YOU actually done, actually accomplished, what effort have you, yourself-live-and-in-person actually expended, above and beyond shaking your impotent little fist in self-righteous (yet impotent) rage against all these hordes of rapacious hobgoblins which seem to occupy your every waking thought?

Like I told you before; produce evidence of actual results...or shut the fuck up.

This is a website dedicated to positivity and accomplishment; your negative, defeatist bullshit is a complete anathema, diametrically opposed to everything here. It doesn't belong.

And if you persist neither will you.

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you are kind of stretching your privileges here, if i were to talk to you like this i probably get banned, since when is freedom of speech negative, i love life, but not slavery, and the monetary system created hundreds of years ago did not change much and as people we should spread the word.

One cannot conquer or change but when the critical number of awareness reaches its peak, people get aware all over the globe and that is what the internet is giving us..

I for one Max have always put the topics like this to my friends and the guys over the net, i think this is important and clearly you are in some state of fear or troubles in life, nobody who is calm cannot just shoot out stuff like you.
Money is a big aspect of our lives, and without it, we act and think in the state of fear and disarray, if you did watch documentaries like zeitgeist and money as debt you would see the underlining evidence presented even in a court case, and you would at least open your mind to the possibility that the banks are employing a non productive lending scheme which in the end only makes more people in debt and miserable.
I am positive because i know we will in time break them!

Like I told you: Provide evidence of you accomplishing anything...anything.
Or shut the fuck up.
That's all you gotta do.

So freedom of speech is only for those who archive something?

I have had 2 cases with patent on ideas. Both stolen. Sad with papers and shit saying. I had the right to these products. My lawyer said: you can do this, but it will take years it will cost more money than you make in a year and meanwhile they will grow bigger and fatter. Also if they have a smart lawyer they will change a few things and you will lose the case.

So i have accompliced to be ass raped twice by a system that supports the rich people. Does that count?

Im liberal in my mind i wanna work for my price thats how i work. But i dont see it as liberal when someone sits in the top pressing every penny out of people at the bottom.

I have started 3 companies so far (2 recently other one closed some time ago)

And i have always worked and focused to archive great.

But i dont do this to become stevejobs rich. I do this as a passion and because i like it. Of course i find it interresting to get wealthy it is a part of it. But there should be some limits to this.

Also to the other side of topic
after seeing this freemarket video.

Our good friend chong weii working on a factory for a good payment.
Describe for me how it should be possible for him to ever get to the top?
He is stuck in this situation untill he dies. No way out ( unless he breaks the rules)

And now this breaking the rules:

Name me 1 person who "archived somthing"

Who played by the rules?

Just one

Aiming, that really sucks. I've almost had friendships end over stolen ideas-nothing patentable, but simply someone claiming they thought of it first-makes me fly into a rage!
Also, I found it amusing that you mentioned "stevejobs rich" as a bencHydromaxark, since Mr. Jobs is likely to have committed the biggest business blunder in history, having his Apple Lisa with windows and the mouse interface stolen by billgates.... Jobs should be the richest man in the world but mishandled his ideas (well, Xerox's ideas I suppose).

Anyway, maybe you need a different role model-like Bill Gates, or another business bastard like that to avoid getting stolen from again... just sayin

I guess there's an echo in here. Not sure why.

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I guess there's an echo in here. Not sure why.

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MOS has huge hallways

you are kind of stretching your privileges here, if i were to talk to you like this i probably get banned, since when is freedom of speech negative, i love life, but not slavery, and the monetary system created hundreds of years ago did not change much and as people we should spread the word.

One cannot conquer or change but when the critical number of awareness reaches its peak, people get aware all over the globe and that is what the internet is giving us..

I for one Max have always put the topics like this to my friends and the guys over the net, i think this is important and clearly you are in some state of fear or troubles in life, nobody who is calm cannot just shoot out stuff like you.
Money is a big aspect of our lives, and without it, we act and think in the state of fear and disarray, if you did watch documentaries like zeitgeist and money as debt you would see the underlining evidence presented even in a court case, and you would at least open your mind to the possibility that the banks are employing a non productive lending scheme which in the end only makes more people in debt and miserable.
I am positive because i know we will in time break them!

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Why is everyone attacking my dog alex78 for? He is just keeping it real and is being passionate about a topic that is very important in today's society
it is obvious to me the guy has a lot of street knowledge,But he is also just having a freedom of speech moment,So god damn let him speak.

Peace,
Super

Crazy Doc;430935 said:

Aiming, that really sucks. I've almost had friendships end over stolen ideas-nothing patentable, but simply someone claiming they thought of it first-makes me fly into a rage!
Also, I found it amusing that you mentioned "stevejobs rich" as a bencHydromaxark, since Mr. Jobs is likely to have committed the biggest business blunder in history, having his Apple Lisa with windows and the mouse interface stolen by billgates.... Jobs should be the richest man in the world but mishandled his ideas (well, Xerox's ideas I suppose).

Anyway, maybe you need a different role model-like Bill Gates, or another business bastard like that to avoid getting stolen from again... just sayin

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Well you live and you learn. I still have a shitload of ideas but im gonna keep them for my self untill i have a big enough amount of money and connection to make life a living hell for anyone who steals my ideas. Been a soldier and done martial arts for 17 years. It was hard not to meet in person with the ceo of that company. You know at night at a dark parking place.
But it is just business. And now im going through with other ideas that doesn't aim for thrillions. But just millions besides this is way more fun. I get to talk with normal people. Whenever you go for the big buck all you meet is the lizard people

Freedom to Fascism is also a informative documentary. In the words of George Carlin " Is it inconceivable to think that a bunch of rich people might actually get together and have a plannnn?"
It seems the British Monarchy is intent on reclaiming there colonies.

[video=youtube;6oP1Ke70Mi8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oP1Ke70Mi8[/video]

I also think that the Powers that rule us are terrified of people finding out relative information. That includes Penis Enlargement...

My advice is to buy gold and silver with both hands as quickly as you can!

I'm a stainless steel fan myself.

I think that there are many aspects to this thread title.

On the subject of being able to reach the top then i do actually think that both the USA and UK (possibly the two most capitalist major economies) do provide the environment where if you are opportunistic enough, you can reach the top of a company. Equally i think that both these countries (USA especially) also somewhat penalize those people that are not able to due to a lack of government sponsored training unless you are young or go down the university route. I am a keen believer of equal opportunity and while the rich do have a better starting position still, i think that in both countries you can become successful to the point of being a millionaire.

In regards to the larger scope then we have to look politically. As a young Conservative Party supporter in the UK i do have a leaning towards the free market however i believe that in reality we need adequate regulation to keep the economy stable and prevent a business dominance political model in some industries occurring. In the case of banking, this has occurred as evidenced by the lack of adequate reform to prevent another 'credit crunch'.

I actually think though that it is industry specific. While the majority of people in Saudi Arabia are very poor, they have got rich from using their own resources which are in demand (oil) and as such as long as basic needs are provided (shelter, food, water) then i do see that as a good enough starting point and hope that greater wider prosperity and even democracy will come later. I guess what i am saying is that i can justify morally why a developing economy making money from a resource can have a somewhat elitist system.

In regards to banking though i think that the industry has been allowed to become too dominant and believe that no business should be allowed to become 'too big to fail'. What is more, it is my belief that these business violate capitalism. I shall explain...

The economic system in the UK and USA developed like this.. Capitalism > Monetarism > Corporatism

Now, a clothes company for instance is a corporatist entity operating within the confines of monetarism.

A bank on the other hand is actually right now a monetary entity. These businesses are built around the supply of money and have been allowed to exist on the basis of a fractional reserve system. What is more, the 1986 (UK) and 1992 (USA) acts have allowed otherwise separate entities (retail and investment) to merge so that a bank can merely use the money in its retail bank to gamble in its investment wing.

As an advocate of the free market i do believe that business servicing the needs and wants of society is the most efficient way to manage the planets resources however when an investment bank does not have to hold any money at all because it can use the personal savings from it;s retail arm, i do honestly see that as a violation of capitalism. I believe that the essence of corporatism needs to be present on a much bigger scale to prevent banks trading completely money which does not exist.

It is not morally right that banks can make billions in profit while abusing the economic system. They must be put in check so that profit can be made from real money.

Its the jews fault :cool: haha

I need a pair of sick nikes or reeboks or new balance any of these brands is ok hahaha