What's the average size?

Hangingainz;737042 said:
So check this out https://www.theguardian.com/news/da...s-size-find-out-with-this-interactive-graphic

Don't know much about this study. Anyway girls exaggerating, guys lying and �naked people movies� make u think massive dicks are everywhere. My measurement is a bit above 6.5 inches (16.5cm) NBPEL. According to this study here I am in the 98th percent in terms of size. WTF lol!
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Woman are terrible at gauging size, guys generally lie about there size. �naked people movies� warps our minds and �naked people movies� stars lie about their size. Im 23cm x 16cm at thickest now thanks to PE used to be 20cmx13cm<-------------------- at this sizehooker who couldn't speak English jaw dropped open and she said biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig, a guy in my gym looked at me with a complete look of shock terror when he saw me flaccid, my flacid bigger than average erect. Average size probably 5.5x 4.5. <------- if you are thin at this size you dick will look big if you are fat it will look small. This who situation fucked with my head for years.I think im very very big especially for a white guy I had a size queen throw herself infront of my car to get my attention.
 
According to that my BPEL of 6 3/8" or 16.19cm 3 months ago is in the 97-98th percentile and my EL of 5 7/8 or 14.9cm is in the 88th percentile. That seems a bit optimistic there but DAMN that makes me feel good lol.
 
Hangingainz;737042 said:
So check this out https://www.theguardian.com/news/da...s-size-find-out-with-this-interactive-graphic

Don't know much about this study. Anyway girls exaggerating, guys lying and �naked people movies� make u think massive dicks are everywhere. My measurement is a bit above 6.5 inches (16.5cm) NBPEL. According to this study here I am in the 98th percent in terms of size. WTF lol!
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Man, this interactive calculator is fucking awesome! Thank you for sharing it with us! I wish they had one for girth too.
BTW, I'm pretty sure this study is BP so your BPEL is more relevant.
 
IAmSpartacus71;737058 said:
Man, this interactive calculator is fucking awesome! Thank you for sharing it with us! I wish they had one for girth too.
BTW, I'm pretty sure this study is BP so your BPEL is more relevant.
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Really? So if my goal is 8 x 6 that means 8" BPEL not NBPEL like I've been doing????? sweet lol
 
IAmSpartacus71;737058 said:
Man, this interactive calculator is fucking awesome! Thank you for sharing it with us! I wish they had one for girth too.
BTW, I'm pretty sure this study is BP so your BPEL is more relevant.
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I'm reading the actual study itself and it says -

Flaccid or erect length was measured from the root (pubo-penile junction) of the penis to the tip of the glans (meatus) on the dorsal surface, where the pre-pubic fat pad was pushed to the bone.
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so it was BPEL. Not only that but they used the results from 15k measurements AND they had to be done by a "health care professional" not a bunch of guys reporting their size. That's a pretty good indicator of the quality of the results.

The only drawback to measuring penis length in a clinical setting is EQ might not be 100% with everyone. I could get and stay erect for measurements given the right circumstances (relaxing room, watching some �naked people movies�) without medication and without a woman playing with me. Some guys would have an issue with it but they know the difference between 100% and 80% EQ. I'm sure as long as they were at least 90% erect (which is good enough for sex) they took measurements.

I'd like to see a larger sample size. Yes 15k men is a great sample size as some studies only use 1000 people. On top of that they excluded guys with ED, had any type of penile surgery, and guys who thought they were really small. That basically means they only used guys who were comfortable with their penis size and perfectly healthy. I think this is one of the best size surveys I've read.
 
cladre60;737087 said:
so it was BPEL. Not only that but they used the results from 15k measurements AND they had to be done by a "health care professional" not a bunch of guys reporting their size. That's a pretty good indicator of the quality of the results.

The only drawback to measuring penis length in a clinical setting is EQ might not be 100% with everyone. I could get and stay erect for measurements given the right circumstances (relaxing room, watching some �naked people movies�) without medication and without a woman playing with me. Some guys would have an issue with it but they know the difference between 100% and 80% EQ. I'm sure as long as they were at least 90% erect (which is good enough for sex) they took measurements.

I'd like to see a larger sample size. Yes 15k men is a great sample size as some studies only use 1000 people. On top of that they excluded guys with ED, had any type of penile surgery, and guys who thought they were really small. That basically means they only used guys who were comfortable with their penis size and perfectly healthy. I think this is one of the best size surveys I've read.
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Everything you said is true. I would like to add that if we assume that they measured with 90% erection, in theory their length when 100% erect would be 1 centimeter longer (and I'm relatively generous). So the average length would be 14 cm (5.5") and we are way bigger than this!
But still, I don't think it's true because of the reason you already said, that they measured only guys who were comfortable with their sizes. So theoretically if we take into account the guys with really small sizes, that will bring us back to 13 cm (or even less?). I hope you got my point... Do you agree with me?
Anyway, I think we should be proud because even if the average is 13 cm or 14 cm, we are way wayyy bigger than this and will be even bigger! :)
 
IAmSpartacus71;737123 said:
Everything you said is true. I would like to add that if we assume that they measured with 90% erection, in theory their length when 100% erect would be 1 centimeter longer (and I'm relatively generous). So the average length would be 14 cm (5.5") and we are way bigger than this!
But still, I don't think it's true because of the reason you already said, that they measured only guys who were comfortable with their sizes. So theoretically if we take into account the guys with really small sizes, that will bring us back to 13 cm (or even less?). I hope you got my point... Do you agree with me?
Anyway, I think we should be proud because even if the average is 13 cm or 14 cm, we are way wayyy bigger than this and will be even bigger! :)
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A larger sample size would clear up some of that. It would also help to have guys who think they're small or large just to add to the data. I always thought I was on the small end of average but at least average. Even given if there was only 90% EQ for all those measurements that would still put my starting size right in the middle.... much better than I thought.

I always thought I was small because of a girl in high school who, after we broke up, told people I was small compared to her next bf. I had nothing to compare to except �naked people movies� (thanks camera angles) so I never brought up size with women. Of course since everyone lies about size when they don't have to prove it, especially in High School (tell someone to get hard and prove it in a high school locker room and the whole school will think you're gay by lunch time) I always thought I was a bit small. Now I'm bigger and I feel so much better.

But yes I agree, more samples, include anyone and get 50k total and add in the new data. Accurate measurements of 50k erect penises should forever nail down the answers to size.
 
Still find it hard to believe this one. I'll accept that I'm larger/above average/maybe big...but if I use BPEL at 19.6cm, then I'm in the 100th percentile, or if I use NBPEL at 16.5cm, then I am 98th percentile.

Hell, if I use non-pressed flaccid hang at 13.3-13.9cm I'm still 57-71st percentile. Like I said, I'm above average, but not a monster (yet).
 
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cladre60;737124 said:
A larger sample size would clear up some of that. It would also help to have guys who think they're small or large just to add to the data. I always thought I was on the small end of average but at least average. Even given if there was only 90% EQ for all those measurements that would still put my starting size right in the middle.... much better than I thought.

I always thought I was small because of a girl in high school who, after we broke up, told people I was small compared to her next bf. I had nothing to compare to except �naked people movies� (thanks camera angles) so I never brought up size with women. Of course since everyone lies about size when they don't have to prove it, especially in High School (tell someone to get hard and prove it in a high school locker room and the whole school will think you're gay by lunch time) I always thought I was a bit small. Now I'm bigger and I feel so much better.

But yes I agree, more samples, include anyone and get 50k total and add in the new data. Accurate measurements of 50k erect penises should forever nail down the answers to size.
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When I was in middle school and high school there were times when I was masturbating and watching �naked people movies� with my friends, comparing sizes with each other etc. So I knew I wasn't small at all, of course some guys were bigger than me (one guy who served in the army with me was huge!) but many was smaller. So I was pretty confidence about my size but always wanted to be bigger and was jealous at guys with huge cocks.
Phoenix7672;737136 said:
Still find it hard to believe this one. I'll accept that I'm larger/above average/maybe big...but if I use BPEL at 19.6cm, then I'm in the 100th percentile, or if I use NBPEL at 16.5cm, then I am 98th percentile.

Hell, if I use non-pressed flaccid hang at 13.3-13.9cm I'm still 57-71st percentile. Like I said, I'm above average, but not a monster (yet).
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You probably rely too much on �naked people movies�. You are not larger nor above average nor big, you are HUGE. Yes, anything above 19 cm (7.5") is huge, that is a fact. �naked people movies� has ruined your standards completely, time to get real brother...
 
Women and penis size have an equation that works in most cases. When you are in love you are 2" longer than you really are, when you hate each other you are 2" shorter than reality. So if you have a 6" dick, it is 8" when she loves you and 4" when she doesn't! :)
 
doublelongdaddy;737145 said:
Women and penis size have an equation that works in most cases. When you are in love you are 2" longer than you really are, when you hate each other you are 2" shorter than reality. So if you have a 6" dick, it is 8" when she loves you and 4" when she doesn't! :)
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Of course! I fell victim to that in high school while losing all my friends thanks to a girl, destroyed my self esteem and self image, and made the last 2 years of high school horrible. Bad time to go through that.


Spartacus we never actually compared sizes with each other growing up. However once I got through boot camp the guys who knew they were larger than average weren't afraid to show off but there weren't many. Still thanks to them and �naked people movies� I always wanted to be bigger. At least I'm getting it now :D

I think they really need a larger sample size though. According to that many of us are already larger than average and I have a hard time believing it. I think the standard deviation in that study might be smaller than it actually is.

For those of you who don't fully understand statistics let me use IQ as an example.

The mean (average) is 100 with a standard deviation of 15. Anything within 1 standard deviation of the mean covers 66% of the population and 2 standard deviations is supposed to cover 96% of the population. That means 66% of everyone falls between 85-115 and 96% fall between 70-130. If you're in there you're considered "normal" and "average." Above 130 and below 70 are "abnormal."

According to this study 5.1" or 13cm is right in the middle. However the standard deviation is 1.33cm. So 11.7 cm or 4.6" is one standard deviation (still normal) and 10.4cm or 4" is two standard deviations and STILL considered normal.... and that's BPEL! So with how statistics works you can be 4" BPEL and considered at the extreme end of normal and average just like if you had an IQ of 70.

I think they need more data. Now it really doesn't seem right that 4.6" BPEL is average. On some guys that'd look like 4" with the fat pad and on others it would be even less.
 
cladre60;737175 said:
Of course! I fell victim to that in high school while losing all my friends thanks to a girl, destroyed my self esteem and self image, and made the last 2 years of high school horrible. Bad time to go through that.
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Well thank God for PE! You no longer have to settle with insecurities from the past, you now can become as large as you desire and destroy those lingering demons of the past!
 
doublelongdaddy;737188 said:
Well thank God for PE! You no longer have to settle with insecurities from the past, you now can become as large as you desire and destroy those lingering demons of the past!
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Yeah but all my demons won't stand in a straight line to be taken out one at a time. Those bastards!
 
cladre60;737175 said:
Of course! I fell victim to that in high school while losing all my friends thanks to a girl, destroyed my self esteem and self image, and made the last 2 years of high school horrible. Bad time to go through that.


Spartacus we never actually compared sizes with each other growing up. However once I got through boot camp the guys who knew they were larger than average weren't afraid to show off but there weren't many. Still thanks to them and �naked people movies� I always wanted to be bigger. At least I'm getting it now :D

I think they really need a larger sample size though. According to that many of us are already larger than average and I have a hard time believing it. I think the standard deviation in that study might be smaller than it actually is.

For those of you who don't fully understand statistics let me use IQ as an example.

The mean (average) is 100 with a standard deviation of 15. Anything within 1 standard deviation of the mean covers 66% of the population and 2 standard deviations is supposed to cover 96% of the population. That means 66% of everyone falls between 85-115 and 96% fall between 70-130. If you're in there you're considered "normal" and "average." Above 130 and below 70 are "abnormal."

According to this study 5.1" or 13cm is right in the middle. However the standard deviation is 1.33cm. So 11.7 cm or 4.6" is one standard deviation (still normal) and 10.4cm or 4" is two standard deviations and STILL considered normal.... and that's BPEL! So with how statistics works you can be 4" BPEL and considered at the extreme end of normal and average just like if you had an IQ of 70.

I think they need more data. Now it really doesn't seem right that 4.6" BPEL is average. On some guys that'd look like 4" with the fat pad and on others it would be even less.
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I know it's a crazy idea and maybe I'm wrong but what if it is not a normal bell curve but an abnormal bell curve with positive skew?
 
IAmSpartacus71;737215 said:
I know it's a crazy idea and maybe I'm wrong but what if it is not a normal bell curve but an abnormal bell curve with positive skew?
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I was thinking the same thing...the overwhelming majority seems to fall into the 4.5"-6" range and us 'outliers' represent the smallest of percentages. Clad also makes a strong point that those who are not comfortable with their body would never subject themselves to anything like this.
 
IAmSpartacus71;737215 said:
I know it's a crazy idea and maybe I'm wrong but what if it is not a normal bell curve but an abnormal bell curve with positive skew?
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There was no mention of this in the full article and there should have been if that was the result unless the article was not going to be peer reviewed and published in an accepted medical journal. I did not check to see on any of that. I checked what 2 standard deviations below the mean is on their handy slide and it is 4-5% which means the slide is an accurate representation of their results. That doesn't mean it's true though. It's just hard to believe that if you took 100 guys and lined them up that you'd have 46 of them ranging between 4-5.1" BPEL and call them average size. It doesn't make sense.

On the flip side if I'm at 6.375" BPEL it's hard for me to believe I'm bigger than 96% of guys out there now. Even my starting size put me way above the 50% mark.

The more I think about it the more I think this study has some flaws and it's more than just the sample. If it really is accurate I'm going to be showing my erect penis to EVERYONE and saying "just like my ASVAB score, 99th percentile!"
 
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