I'm certainly not Forrest Gump

huge-girth · Jun 29, 2018

cladre60;762755 said:
That'll do it. I gained 15-20lbs at one point and mine looked smaller. I was not happy with that.

It has everything to do with my habit of eating late at night. I dropped this habit before but picked it back when I relocated to live temporally with a friend.

cladre60 · Jun 29, 2018

huge-girth;762798 said:
It has everything to do with my habit of eating late at night. I dropped this habit before but picked it back when I relocated to live temporally with a friend.

I have that habit too. Trying to at least move my late night snack to at least an hour before bed. Working 2nd shift and trying to go to bed at a reasonable time is hard.

I really shocked myself this morning running. Haven't done distance in a week and managed to drop 40 seconds per Km. I ran 4km, working my way up to 5k.

huge-girth · Jun 30, 2018

cladre60;762825 said:
I have that habit too. Trying to at least move my late night snack to at least an hour before bed. Working 2nd shift and trying to go to bed at a reasonable time is hard.

I really shocked myself this morning running. Haven't done distance in a week and managed to drop 40 seconds per Km. I ran 4km, working my way up to 5k.

Can't remember the last time I ran. I want to start fighting the habit of eating late. I want to go back to my old habit

cladre60 · Jun 30, 2018

huge-girth;762847 said:
Can't remember the last time I ran. I want to start fighting the habit of eating late. I want to go back to my old habit

All about willpower. Years ago my wife told me I was "getting chubby." I didn't believe her until I went to a doc appt and got on the scale. That was scary. A change in diet was the biggest thing.

The exercise now is because I just want to feel better. Running is cheap and easy. I get some good music going (Static X seems to do it for me, I love metal) and just go. Plus with a goal in mind for this upcoming 5k it's something to push for. Having a goal, even if modest, should push you to do work. You're already doing it with PE so you can do it with anything else.

huge-girth · Jul 1, 2018

cladre60;762861 said:
All about willpower. Years ago my wife told me I was "getting chubby." I didn't believe her until I went to a doc appt and got on the scale. That was scary. A change in diet was the biggest thing.

The exercise now is because I just want to feel better. Running is cheap and easy. I get some good music going (Static X seems to do it for me, I love metal) and just go. Plus with a goal in mind for this upcoming 5k it's something to push for. Having a goal, even if modest, should push you to do work. You're already doing it with PE so you can do it with anything else.

You are right, changing diet is the first step before the exercise part. I'm hoping to get on this train soon.

cladre60 · Jul 1, 2018

huge-girth;762888 said:
You are right, changing diet is the first step before the exercise part. I'm hoping to get on this train soon.

You can do it. Start by making smaller changes, like changing 1 meal to a healthier one and the late night snack to something good for you. After that the other meals and snacks should follow. I'm doing the that myself. Still have done junk food cause I love sweets but trying to eat less of it.

huge-girth · Jul 2, 2018

cladre60;762915 said:
You can do it. Start by making smaller changes, like changing 1 meal to a healthier one and the late night snack to something good for you. After that the other meals and snacks should follow. I'm doing the that myself. Still have done junk food cause I love sweets but trying to eat less of it.

I want to avoid the late night snack. I want to eat only twice daily

cladre60 · Jul 2, 2018

huge-girth;762940 said:
I want to avoid the late night snack. I want to eat only twice daily

Eating twice a day is actually the wrong approach. Weight loss isn't just eating less calories than you burn in a day. Besides changes in diet you actually want to eat 4-6x a day. If you are on a 2000 calorie per day diet break it down into four 500 calorie or five 400 calorie meals. Plus eating in the morning can get your metabolism moving and start burning body fat.

Your body is smarter than you. If you don't eat often enough your body will try to store it as fat because it's thinking it is in starvation mode and trying to simply survive. This is a common mistake many people make.

Good fats (unsaturated) get burned by your body and don't stick to you as fat. They're found a lot in nuts and certain oils (olive oil and others). Some people will get natural peanut butter and eat a few spoons for breakfast or as a snack during the day or have 1-2 servings of other nuts.

Protein is important. Chicken is very popular for body builders because it's typically cheap (and they eat a LOT) and good for you. Red meat they say you want to limit to I think 2x a week. Fish is good but I've also heard not too much.

Vegetables are great because they're low calorie and very filling. The best way to put it is a simple cheeseburger could be 600-700 calories and a salad with that many calories is about 3x the size (depending on toppings of course). The salad will fill your stomach much more and leave you feeling less weighed down. Plus vegetables (and fruits) give you fiber which is good and will help you shit.

Carbs need to be clean and don't overdo it. Whole grains are best. Drop carbs to a minimum 4-5 hours before bed. This includes processed sugars which are found in soda and many drinks. On the mornings I run I make a shake with powdered protein and ground up raw oatmeal. The oatmeal is very clean carbs and filling. Lunch I usually have a sandwich with whole wheat bread.

Yeah that's lots of info and I hope I got it all right.

DLD · Jul 2, 2018

cladre60;762949 said:
Eating twice a day is actually the wrong approach. Weight loss isn't just eating less calories than you burn in a day. Besides changes in diet you actually want to eat 4-6x a day. If you are on a 2000 calorie per day diet break it down into four 500 calorie or five 400 calorie meals. Plus eating in the morning can get your metabolism moving and start burning body fat.

Your body is smarter than you. If you don't eat often enough your body will try to store it as fat because it's thinking it is in starvation mode and trying to simply survive. This is a common mistake many people make.

Good fats (unsaturated) get burned by your body and don't stick to you as fat. They're found a lot in nuts and certain oils (olive oil and others). Some people will get natural peanut butter and eat a few spoons for breakfast or as a snack during the day or have 1-2 servings of other nuts.

Protein is important. Chicken is very popular for body builders because it's typically cheap (and they eat a LOT) and good for you. Red meat they say you want to limit to I think 2x a week. Fish is good but I've also heard not too much.

Vegetables are great because they're low calorie and very filling. The best way to put it is a simple cheeseburger could be 600-700 calories and a salad with that many calories is about 3x the size (depending on toppings of course). The salad will fill your stomach much more and leave you feeling less weighed down. Plus vegetables (and fruits) give you fiber which is good and will help you shit.

Carbs need to be clean and don't overdo it. Whole grains are best. Drop carbs to a minimum 4-5 hours before bed. This includes processed sugars which are found in soda and many drinks. On the mornings I run I make a shake with powdered protein and ground up raw oatmeal. The oatmeal is very clean carbs and filling. Lunch I usually have a sandwich with whole wheat bread.

Yeah that's lots of info and I hope I got it all right.

Great advice and I can already see where I am making many mistakes. I eat twice a day. I eat close the bed time. I eat more carbs than I should. I eat more red meat than I should. Thanks for some clarity to where I am going wrong, I really appreciate it.

cladre60 · Jul 2, 2018

doublelongdaddy;762950 said:
Great advice and I can already see where I am making many mistakes. I eat twice a day. I eat close the bed time. I eat more carbs than I should. I eat more red meat than I should. Thanks for some clarity to where I am going wrong, I really appreciate it.

I'm guilty of not eating as often as necessary but I'm putting forth the effort to eat better. I do want to lose the little bit of belly I've put on but mostly just want to feel healthier.

If you try to go with a super low/no carb diet beware of the headaches. Some people say they get used to it after a few days or a week, others don't. Some people build a "cheat day" into their ultra low carb diet to shock their system. It actually does help not only mentally but physically.

I tried an ultra low carb very healthy diet with a cheat day once a week. I lasted about 3 weeks. At the end of my 2nd cheat day I felt like a greasy slob eating all that garbage. By the end of the 3rd week I was eating a little junk daily but most everything else was clean food so I called it a success overall.

Big Schwanz Acht · Jul 2, 2018

I'm a serious 'Carbovore'...I tried The Atkins diet for a week and thought I was going to kill somebody

cladre60 · Jul 2, 2018

Big Schwanz Acht;763022 said:
I'm a serious 'Carbovore'...I tried The Atkins diet for a week and thought I was going to kill somebody

I know exactly how you feel. Years ago there were days I'd have a protein shake with oatmeal, a chicken thigh and drumstick, and 3-4 scrambled eggs within 3-4 hours after going to the gym and I'd still be hungry. Once I started having a few pieces of toast with the eggs I was fine.

No plans for an ultra low carb diet in my future unless absolutely necessary for medical or weight loss purposes.

huge-girth · Jul 3, 2018

cladre60;762949 said:
Eating twice a day is actually the wrong approach. Weight loss isn't just eating less calories than you burn in a day. Besides changes in diet you actually want to eat 4-6x a day. If you are on a 2000 calorie per day diet break it down into four 500 calorie or five 400 calorie meals. Plus eating in the morning can get your metabolism moving and start burning body fat.

Your body is smarter than you. If you don't eat often enough your body will try to store it as fat because it's thinking it is in starvation mode and trying to simply survive. This is a common mistake many people make.

Good fats (unsaturated) get burned by your body and don't stick to you as fat. They're found a lot in nuts and certain oils (olive oil and others). Some people will get natural peanut butter and eat a few spoons for breakfast or as a snack during the day or have 1-2 servings of other nuts.

Protein is important. Chicken is very popular for body builders because it's typically cheap (and they eat a LOT) and good for you. Red meat they say you want to limit to I think 2x a week. Fish is good but I've also heard not too much.

Vegetables are great because they're low calorie and very filling. The best way to put it is a simple cheeseburger could be 600-700 calories and a salad with that many calories is about 3x the size (depending on toppings of course). The salad will fill your stomach much more and leave you feeling less weighed down. Plus vegetables (and fruits) give you fiber which is good and will help you shit.

Carbs need to be clean and don't overdo it. Whole grains are best. Drop carbs to a minimum 4-5 hours before bed. This includes processed sugars which are found in soda and many drinks. On the mornings I run I make a shake with powdered protein and ground up raw oatmeal. The oatmeal is very clean carbs and filling. Lunch I usually have a sandwich with whole wheat bread.

Yeah that's lots of info and I hope I got it all right.

I copied everything you wrote here and stored it all in my email. I will be needing it all for the rest of my life. I have read about most of the things you said but I've never put any of it into practice. But if I follow all that you wrote here, will I lose the belly fat even without doing any exercises?

cladre60 · Jul 3, 2018

huge-girth;763062 said:
I copied everything you wrote here and stored it all in my email. I will be needing it all for the rest of my life. I have read about most of the things you said but I've never put any of it into practice. But if I follow all that you wrote here, will I lose the belly fat even without doing any exercises?

Fat loss means burning more calories than you eat. Some people need to exercise to make that happen, others don't. So really it's up to how you eat. There's people who get so fat they physically can't exercise or even walk around until they lose 100+ pounds. They start their journey with a healthy diet and if they continue they'll eventually be able to exercise again.

If your weight has been steady then do a calorie count for a few days to figure out an average per day. Then you can adjust down with a healthier diet.

Exercise never hurts and can help burn a few hundred calories. It also gets your body, including your heart, into better shape and can force your metabolism to burn fat. People who exercise a lot typically have a lower resting heart rate which is obviously good.

You can always talk to a doctor, dietician, personal trainer, or all 3 to get help setting up the best scenario for you. After that you've just gotta put in the effort.

DLD · Jul 3, 2018

cladre60;763099 said:
Fat loss means burning more calories than you eat. Some people need to exercise to make that happen, others don't. So really it's up to how you eat. There's people who get so fat they physically can't exercise or even walk around until they lose 100+ pounds. They start their journey with a healthy diet and if they continue they'll eventually be able to exercise again.

If your weight has been steady then do a calorie count for a few days to figure out an average per day. Then you can adjust down with a healthier diet.

Exercise never hurts and can help burn a few hundred calories. It also gets your body, including your heart, into better shape and can force your metabolism to burn fat. People who exercise a lot typically have a lower resting heart rate which is obviously good.

You can always talk to a doctor, dietician, personal trainer, or all 3 to get help setting up the best scenario for you. After that you've just gotta put in the effort.

I have noticed that I can see my six pack but there is fat under my abs???? Does that make any sense?

Big Schwanz Acht · Jul 3, 2018

doublelongdaddy;763107 said:
I have noticed that I can see my six pack but there is fat under my abs???? Does that make any sense?

is the hippie cabbage making you see things 'inside-out'?

cladre60 · Jul 3, 2018

doublelongdaddy;763107 said:
I have noticed that I can see my six pack but there is fat under my abs???? Does that make any sense?

Yeah kind of. If I start working my abs a lot they'll show more but I start to look fat if I have a shirt on.

huge-girth · Jul 4, 2018

cladre60;763099 said:
Fat loss means burning more calories than you eat. Some people need to exercise to make that happen, others don't. So really it's up to how you eat. There's people who get so fat they physically can't exercise or even walk around until they lose 100+ pounds. They start their journey with a healthy diet and if they continue they'll eventually be able to exercise again.

If your weight has been steady then do a calorie count for a few days to figure out an average per day. Then you can adjust down with a healthier diet.

Exercise never hurts and can help burn a few hundred calories. It also gets your body, including your heart, into better shape and can force your metabolism to burn fat. People who exercise a lot typically have a lower resting heart rate which is obviously good.

You can always talk to a doctor, dietician, personal trainer, or all 3 to get help setting up the best scenario for you. After that you've just gotta put in the effort.

If I exercise for one month in combination with the things you mentioned in your previous post, my fat pad will disappear within 30 to 45 days.

DLD · Jul 5, 2018

cladre60;763179 said:
Yeah kind of. If I start working my abs a lot they'll show more but I start to look fat if I have a shirt on.

Seriously though, is it possible to have fat beneath my abs? I can literally see all of my abs but my belly is huge. Can fat happen under the muscle?

cladre60 · Jul 5, 2018

huge-girth;763247 said:
If I exercise for one month in combination with the things you mentioned in your previous post, my fat pad will disappear within 30 to 45 days.

Changing my diet has been pretty big for me. The running is helping as well. I'm looking bigger when I'm erect so I'm at least losing fat from what I can see. It's that middle age thing. Men get "skinny fat" where they're skinny everywhere except their belly.

I'm certainly not Forrest Gump

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