Average77

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Hello everyone.

So I am a newbie. I posted my stats in the intro thread, but here they are again.
BPFSL: 7 5/16- I've already gained 3/16 here
BPEL: 6 5/8" - 1/8" to 1/4" gain
EL laying down: 6"
EL standing up: 5 3/16"
MSEG: 5 1/4" 1/8" gain

As you can see my biggest problem is that I am starting above average, but my fat pad is terrible. The skin kid of bubbles up a little so it is hard to get an exact measurement when standing up, but it is around 5". I've lost a lot of weight and I am considering getting a lift in the pubic region. I still have a little to lose, but the issue is that the skin just kind of hangs and sags there on top. This is the worst part, my chest and stomach isn't nearly as bad.

I see a lot of newbies post goals. I don't really have a hard goal. I mean what's the difference between 7 7/8" and 8"? Is that a failure to only get to 7 7/8? Of course not! I would like to gain up to two inches in length and an inch or so in girth, but I'm not going to put hard numbers on it.

Sorry for all the background info, I just want to be thorough, but anyways here is my plan...

After getting ready in the morning get into the phallosan and wear it all day until I get home from work at varying tensions. This is roughly 10 hours. Once I get home go into the ace wrap while at the gym. After the gym do the following:
Size genetics for 2 hours, which I feel gives better tension, but is not as comfortable as the phallosan.
5 mins of bundled stretches
3x30 sec in all directions and behind the check, with rotaries in between.
Back into the size genetics for 30min-1 hour
50 jelqs prior to bath mate
Bath mate 3x5 erect with SSJs in between.
Bath mate stretches on the last set
Cock ring for ?
Sleep in the phallosan

I've been using the bath mate for approx 2 months. I've had approx 10 days off in those two months. I've been using the size genetics and phallosan on average for 3-4 hours a day for a month. I've done the newbie stretches for about two weeks 5 days a week.

I feel that I am conditioned and ready for this plan. My biggest question is how long to stay in the cock ring to cement the girth gains before going to sleep in the phallosan?

I will greatly appreciate any input, as I can really see the teamwork, camaraderie, and positivity here. I do plan to help give back by sharing how I got rid of my PPP.

Thanks!
 
Average77;690152 said:
My biggest question is how long to stay in the cock ring to cement the girth gains before going to sleep in the phallosan?

As long as possible.Your expansion should fade away in 1-2 hours.At that point you can either take off the cock ring or you can throw in some quick jelqs or SSJ or a quick BM sessions to re-gain the expansion.The longer you have an expansion followed by the cock ring the quicker you will gain.

Your routine is looking strong but you need to stick to it.Gaining 2" length and 1"+ girth won't be easy,even with your devices.I advise you to lose weight as soon as possible.Fat ( belly fat,fat pad , etc ) are n1 enemy for penis size.Look at Ron Jeremy.This guy was huge back in the day and now he's a fat as hell,lost like 2-3" in length just because of his belly fat and fatpad.No point in having a big dick if you're fat.Good luck brother.
 
ron jeremy still has size..its clear that his EQ has taken a nose dive..He has to grip the base just to bang a chick
 
blackego33;690337 said:
ron jeremy still has size..its clear that his EQ has taken a nose dive..He has to grip the base just to bang a chick

He's getting old too. He used to look huge when he was thin but now he needs to push back all that fat pad to expose his length!
 
Okay, I appreciate the advice. I completely understand that this is a marathon and not a race. I also know that my first gains will come quicker and it will taper off. I'll be sure to post progress.
 
Average77;690365 said:
Okay, I appreciate the advice. I completely understand that this is a marathon and not a race. I also know that my first gains will come quicker and it will taper off. I'll be sure to post progress.

That is it my Brother! I can't wait to change your name, no Brother here is average, we are ALL above average in so many ways. Now it is time to make your penis a monster and you landed in the right place!
 
Well I thought I'd give an update since its been 3 months. I've been so busy with my new gf that I haven't been able to stay in the phallosan throughout the whole weekend, but I will say she surely enjoys when I combine my bath mate pump and a little cialis. I've gained another 8th in bpel and nbel. The biggest change I've noticed is that my flaccid hang has went from pathetic and turtled up to always around 4.5-5". I just ordered the LengthMaster, so I can't wait to put it to good use! I am starting to see my hard work pay off and I was able to get past 7.5" bpsfl. I can't wait to get my bpel to that level!
 
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