how many ROP users report increase in testosterone levels?

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(I realise this subforum is on alternative/experimental Penis Enlargement, but I figured that ROP users are more likely to frequent this subforum which is why I posted my question here even if though it doesn't directly concern Penis Enlargement).

I'm looking for alternative options for raising my very low T-levels. I remember Supra reported tremendous increases in his T-levels that he attributed to wearing a ROP, but I'm looking for more evidence to back up this hypothesis.

So are there any other members here who report a significant increase in their testosterone levels ever since they started wearing a ROP? Please don't neglect to mention what other possible factors might have contributed to your T-levels going up: If you tried multiple things at the same time on top of wearing a ROP (herbal supplements, compound weight exercises, etc.) then that's understandable, but if you also started using steroids/hormone therapy then that doesn't really count in ROP's favour!

On the other hand, if you wore ROP and reported no significant change in your testosterone levels (or worse, if they dropped significantly) I would like to hear about your experience too.

Thank you all in advance.
 
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I never had my test levels tested but you definitely get a feeling in your balls. Not sure how to explain but I think it works. I thought I had bigger loads, harder erections, longer flaccid hang, etc. Maybe it is just a placebo but who knows.
 
Back in the day when I used to wear it my test levels actually dropped significantly when I was wearing it. Stopped wearing it the instant I got the results of my second testosterone test.
 
Apparitions;545308 said:
I never had my test levels tested but you definitely get a feeling in your balls. Not sure how to explain but I think it works. I thought I had bigger loads, harder erections, longer flaccid hang, etc. Maybe it is just a placebo but who knows.
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Thanks for the reply.

The problem is without hard numbers it's not easy to know whether it's a placebic effect (as you yourself pointed out) or due to an actual rise in testosterone levels (strong erections may have a correlation with T-levels, don't know about the other improvements you mentioned).

Do you still wear it? If not, what made you give it up?
 
jakb;545324 said:
Back in the day when I used to wear it my test levels actually dropped significantly when I was wearing it. Stopped wearing it the instant I got the results of my second testosterone test.
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Thanks for replying. Did you measure your t-levels both before and after wearing ROP, and did your t-levels rise back up after a period of time, when you'd stopped wearing it? How many tests did you conduct and what were your levels (or what percentage of decline/rise did you experience) - if you don't mind saying?
 
I am doing a cycle of 2 months on and 1 month off. For some reason it is supposed to make it more effective. Plus it has been slipping a lot lately. Need to modify it to fix the issue.
 
jakb;545342 said:
Heres the thread I posted back in the day.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...sterone-results-after-wearing-it-for-3-months
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I skimmed over the thread, some interesting information and viewpoints there. To summarize:

(1) Some people were quite vehemently critical of ROP, saying it was crap and had no scientific basis.
(2) Others claim that wearing the ROP brought them benefit or caused effects that might be associated with a rise in t-levels, but there were no test numbers.
(3) Some of the naysayers ridiculed the idea of zinc being absorbed from the ROP, while the ROP proponents said it was the flow of electric current that gave the ROP its power, not any supposed zinc supplementation to the testes.
(4) You thought the fact that your t-levels were quite high to begin with might've been the cause behind ROP causing your test to decrease - in other words, "messing with optimality".
(5) Supra, the main proponent of ROP on MOS, was on steroids and pro-hormones at the same time he was using the ROP.

I did chuckle (albeit humourlessly - given that there's not much joy left in my life) at your feelings of distress and the symptoms you experienced when your T-levels fell from (a massive) 871 to (a still very respectable) 746 ng/dl, the reason being the last time I checked mine (about a couple of months ago) my total testosterone was a mere 144 ng/dl.
 
LuckyAki;545352 said:
I did chuckle (albeit humourlessly - given that there's not much joy left in my life) at your feelings of distress and the symptoms you experienced when your T-levels fell from (a massive) 871 to (a still very respectable) 746 ng/dl, the reason being the last time I checked mine (about a couple of months ago) my total testosterone was a mere 144 ng/dl.
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BTW, I hope you don't think I was making fun of you.. I was just rueing the fact that my t-levels are so low that you could afford to lose around as many points as I have and still have 5 times as much left over (although put this way it sounds a bit like a high school algebra problem lol).

Anyway I've scrapped the idea of the ROP for the time being. I've made one significant change in the last ten days, which is to sleep early (11-11.30 pm) and get at least 5 hours of night time sleep, and maybe an hour or slightly more in the day. Unfortunately ever since adolescence I've never had a proper sleep cycle to speak of, and it's claimed that good sleep is important for hormonal production, including testosterone. Plus about a month ago I started taking 60,000 IU vit D every week, and hanging out more in sunlight, because my vit D levels tested at pretty abysmal levels too (~7 ng/mL). Recently there have been some studies that purport a relationship between the two (vit D levels and testosterone).

All in all, I'd prefer to exhaust "natural" means of increasing testosterone levels before succumbing to a lifetime of TRT (this is assuming there's nothing wrong with my gonads or my pituatary - in which I might not have a choice).
 
LuckyAki;545352 said:
I skimmed over the thread, some interesting information and viewpoints there. To summarize:

(1) Some people were quite vehemently critical of ROP, saying it was crap and had no scientific basis.
(2) Others claim that wearing the ROP brought them benefit or caused effects that might be associated with a rise in t-levels, but there were no test numbers.
(3) Some of the naysayers ridiculed the idea of zinc being absorbed from the ROP, while the ROP proponents said it was the flow of electric current that gave the ROP its power, not any supposed zinc supplementation to the testes.
(4) You thought the fact that your t-levels were quite high to begin with might've been the cause behind ROP causing your test to decrease - in other words, "messing with optimality".
(5) Supra, the main proponent of ROP on MOS, was on steroids and pro-hormones at the same time he was using the ROP.

I did chuckle (albeit humourlessly - given that there's not much joy left in my life) at your feelings of distress and the symptoms you experienced when your T-levels fell from (a massive) 871 to (a still very respectable) 746 ng/dl, the reason being the last time I checked mine (about a couple of months ago) my total testosterone was a mere 144 ng/dl.
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First off lets get the story straight, I was not on steroids or growth hormone at the time I had my test lvls checked. When I posted my test lvl's I made it clear that the doctor asked me if I was on steroids and I said no. Second didnt start using growth hormone till a few years later. And third Higherone and many other members have had there test lvls checked and vetted the ROP working for them, every ring I have made for people I have had nothing but complements and good results. Sorry it didn't work for you..If you had messaged me I would have given you some tips on ways I learned to increase its power as I have helped many people work with the ROP.

Does one acne cleanser cure all acne for every single person...no why do you think they keep making new ones and there's a million different ones.

The ROP is a very safe way to try to naturally raise your testosterone without sicking yourself with needles and jacking your HTPA with steroids. I would rather spend $50 on a ring and try something out safely then going to a doctor and starting a costly HRT lifetime program..

The ROP is no different then any other Penis Enlargement device out there, it may work for him, him and him but not you. Look at all the Penis Enlargement devices made and they keep making new ones, why? Cause a lot of them don't do shit for people. A small investment of time or money to figure out if it works for you sounds as easy as breathing.
 
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Supra;546886 said:
First off lets get the story straight, I was not on steroids or growth hormone at the time I had my test lvls checked. When I posted my test lvl's I made it clear that the doctor asked me if I was on steroids and I said no. Second didnt start using growth hormone till a few years later. And third Higherone and many other members have had there test lvls checked and vetted the ROP working for them, every ring I have made for people I have had nothing but complements and good results. Sorry it didn't work for you..If you had messaged me I would have given you some tips on ways I learned to increase its power as I have helped many people work with the ROP.

Does one acne cleanser cure all acne for every single person...no why do you think they keep making new ones and there's a million different ones.

The ROP is a very safe way to try to naturally raise your testosterone without sicking yourself with needles and jacking your HTPA with steroids. I would rather spend $50 on a ring and try something out safely then going to a doctor and starting a costly HRT lifetime program..

The ROP is no different then any other Penis Enlargement device out there, it may work for him, him and him but not you. Look at all the Penis Enlargement devices made and they keep making new ones, why? Cause a lot of them don't do shit for people. A small investment of time or money to figure out if it works for you sounds as easy as breathing.
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Supra,

I appreciate your response. I haven't actually tried ROP yet, and even though in my post above I said I'd decided to scrap the idea of trying it, I'm open to changing my mind.

In the post you quoted from me, I was just summarizing what I read in the thread that jakb created about his experience with ROP. Regarding the point about you having used steroids, clomid and IGF-1, I got it from the following posts from jakb's thread (although the actual statements were made by members other than him):

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...r-wearing-it-for-3-months&p=102506#post102506
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...r-wearing-it-for-3-months&p=101339#post101339

I would appreciate you setting the record straight regarding the things said in the post above. And if you had used any substances that are known to increase testosterone prior to or during your use of ROP - even if it you weren't using them at the time you had your levels checked - how do you attribute your testosterone increase to the ROP, rather than these substances? (My question isn't meant to be antagonistic; I just want to hear your point of view.)

As far as the money is concerned, I agree that an investment of $50 isn't too big, in the grand scheme of things. However seeing as how I'm in India at the moment, getting a ROP delivered here from the US might be a bit of a hassle. So even if I made up my mind to try the ROP, I'd probably have to make it myself.
 
No I was not on clomid or steroids or IGF when I got my lvls tested. I was still in the marines and was not taking illegal substances. Ancient China as it tured out was a troll and tried to destoy my reputation while I was gone overseas fighting in iraq and Afghanistan. Thus he was banned for being a troll and brought nothing to this forum but trollish behavior.

lm2;102506 said:
Yes, he said his levels were 454 after doing the roids. Then he claimed to have gone to 954 after wearing the ring for 1 month and getting tested. He had done the steroids a year before trying the ROP apparently. Come to think of it though, it is not clear at all when he got his first blood test. Did he get it 2 months after the steroids, 2 months before trying the ROP? I bet many people assumed it was right before trying the ring.
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I got my blood test 6 weeks after I got off my cycle and I was at 454, my top lvl was 1226ng with the right. So as you can see the ring did work, it brought me from 454 to 1226ng.

gorillaunit;101339 said:
well said. i comport completely.

what a joke!! i didn't know Supra was on clomid when he got his test levels tested! did no one else know that clomid has been shown to increase test levels tremendously? many fine studies have been done on this. wow, what a joke!
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Find me a thread where i stated I was on clomid at the time of the lab tests while wearing the ROP?
 
LuckyAki;545352 said:
I skimmed over the thread, some interesting information and viewpoints there. To summarize:

(1) Some people were quite vehemently critical of ROP, saying it was crap and had no scientific basis.
(2) Others claim that wearing the ROP brought them benefit or caused effects that might be associated with a rise in t-levels, but there were no test numbers.
(3) Some of the naysayers ridiculed the idea of zinc being absorbed from the ROP, while the ROP proponents said it was the flow of electric current that gave the ROP its power, not any supposed zinc supplementation to the testes.
(4) You thought the fact that your t-levels were quite high to begin with might've been the cause behind ROP causing your test to decrease - in other words, "messing with optimality".
(5) Supra, the main proponent of ROP on MOS, was on steroids and pro-hormones at the same time he was using the ROP.

I did chuckle (albeit humourlessly - given that there's not much joy left in my life) at your feelings of distress and the symptoms you experienced when your T-levels fell from (a massive) 871 to (a still very respectable) 746 ng/dl, the reason being the last time I checked mine (about a couple of months ago) my total testosterone was a mere 144 ng/dl.
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You should look into Nootropics a.k.a. "smart drugs".

I've been on Aniracetam and Choline for just over a month and I feel fantastic. I feel like a teenager again. My head is clear, I have energy. Im staking with noopept and l-tyrosine, just started those like 3 days ago. Will report if given the chance.

Nootropics are awesome, well studied and hardly known about by the masses. Do your research if you want to experiment.
 
houseofr00bees;546943 said:
You should look into Nootropics a.k.a. "smart drugs".

I've been on Aniracetam and Choline for just over a month and I feel fantastic. I feel like a teenager again. My head is clear, I have energy. Im staking with noopept and l-tyrosine, just started those like 3 days ago. Will report if given the chance.

Nootropics are awesome, well studied and hardly known about by the masses. Do your research if you want to experiment.
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I take Nopept and Choline as well
 
LuckyAki;546901 said:
Supra,

I appreciate your response. I haven't actually tried ROP yet, and even though in my post above I said I'd decided to scrap the idea of trying it, I'm open to changing my mind.

In the post you quoted from me, I was just summarizing what I read in the thread that jakb created about his experience with ROP. Regarding the point about you having used steroids, clomid and IGF-1, I got it from the following posts from jakb's thread (although the actual statements were made by members other than him):

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...r-wearing-it-for-3-months&p=102506#post102506
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...r-wearing-it-for-3-months&p=101339#post101339

I would appreciate you setting the record straight regarding the things said in the post above. And if you had used any substances that are known to increase testosterone prior to or during your use of ROP - even if it you weren't using them at the time you had your levels checked - how do you attribute your testosterone increase to the ROP, rather than these substances? (My question isn't meant to be antagonistic; I just want to hear your point of view.)

As far as the money is concerned, I agree that an investment of $50 isn't too big, in the grand scheme of things. However seeing as how I'm in India at the moment, getting a ROP delivered here from the US might be a bit of a hassle. So even if I made up my mind to try the ROP, I'd probably have to make it myself.
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In those same threads you linked me did you happen to read this post?

dkeicei;150068 said:
i wear it 24/7 it makes my balls big and hang loose and low which feels damn good, cuz they usually ride up the side of my dick and that hurts! my spoo is whiter and alot thicker and there's alot more of it, which goes good with ����. and it makes a good cock ring. the way i made mine i didn't glue the rods into the hose, i used 1/4" inside diameter "latex surgical tubing" (it was an enema hose) so i can adjust the tightness. i wear it real loose when i sleep, if not it digs into the base when i get morning, or midnight, wood and that hurts!
after i posted here, i then read that other huge long post and regretted even bringing this back up again. all that arguing took place in august of last year, at the very time i left, so i was catching up on back posts. i think it's a dead issue.
but i didn't drop $60+ for someone else to make it. i built mine on my own, it was damn easy. even the link was posted to mcmaster's to get the metal. and i already had the tubing. i even bought a few extra rods for future use. and am still looking for extra tubing, i'm calling a 'medical supplies store' tomorrow to see if they have any. why i'm rambling on i don't know. but i'll keep mine on my egg balls.
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houseofr00bees;546943 said:
You should look into Nootropics a.k.a. "smart drugs".

I've been on Aniracetam and Choline for just over a month and I feel fantastic. I feel like a teenager again. My head is clear, I have energy. Im staking with noopept and l-tyrosine, just started those like 3 days ago. Will report if given the chance.

Nootropics are awesome, well studied and hardly known about by the masses. Do your research if you want to experiment.
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Thanks for suggesting these, don't think I'd heard of them before.

Recently I made some fairly major lifestyle changes, so I've been feeling some general improvements in my mood and energy, and therefore I want to wait a bit before trying these out. The good thing about living in India is medical substances that are normally controlled in Western countries are (generally speaking) easy to acquire here.

Supra;546946 said:
In those same threads you linked me did you happen to read this post?
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If you're referring to the person making his own ROP then yes. Could you give me some ideas what sources I might approach, for locating zinc and copper rods of suitable grade and thickness? Keep in mind I'm not in the US, so by "where" I mean what kinds of local businesses would generally be worth enquiring with - like school chemistry lab suppliers, electrical suppliers, etc.? (Dedicated DIY stores are not common here.)

On the other hand, if you were referring to the improvements that the poster reported, then yes again. But as I mentioned in my thread, I was looking for hard evidence (test lab results) rather than subjective feelings of improvement.
 
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