CYTOMEL(T3)- all the info

gorillaunit said:

i couldn't have said it better. i'm living proof of this. i made the mistake of using steroids and it left me with a permanent hormonal imbalance that so far, seems to be permanent. i will regret for the rest of my life that my insecurities got the best of me.

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Bro, i feel for you... but did you honestly do your research and follow best practices before doing your first steroid cycle?? I know that Supra also experienced alot of problems when he ran his first cycle cuz he simply didn't know about propper PCT protocols. As i've mentioned, i've done many cycles and am very familiar with the gear that i use and know what to expect as i run thru my cycle. Then again, you could simply one of those people that has a low tolerance to steroids... I just hope that you will eventually recover.

REDZULU2003 said:

...I didnt know Forgiven was full of shit...and pasted it from a BB site, nor do I care, cos peeps dos peeps do this anyway and secondly Forgiven has pissed off from MOS...

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I don't think Forgiven was full of shit as the info that he posted was good stuff. I think the issue that most people had with him was that he claimed it as his own material. People on different boards copy and paste info all the time and i'm guilty of doing the same, the difference is that we always state where we got the info from to give credit to the original author/poster.

sikdogg said:

Bro, i feel for you... but did you honestly do your research and follow best practices before doing your first steroid cycle?? I know that Supra also experienced alot of problems when he ran his first cycle cuz he simply didn't know about propper PCT protocols. As i've mentioned, i've done many cycles and am very familiar with the gear that i use and know what to expect as i run thru my cycle. Then again, you could simply one of those people that has a low tolerance to steroids... I just hope that you will eventually recover.

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thanks. and yes, i did about a year and a half worth of heavy reading and research before touching anything. not only that, but i even took a very minor low dose cycle of a milder steroid (anavar). i also followed a proper post cycle therapy. as far as what caused my problems, i don't know. maybe it was an idiosyncratic reaction like you said. we really don't know about long term complications that may arise from steroid abuse. and we also don't know much about the short term complex reactions that the drugs have in our bodies, some of which may alter normal bodily functions.

the bottom line is that when it comes to medicine, we still know very little. much is to be learned. unfortunately, b/c of ethical reasons, i can't forsee any scientific studies on the long and short term effects of using extreme supraphysiological doses of steroids in humans. and to lie to yourself by rationalizing and making up reasons for the sake of appeasing your insecurities is just downright foolish (imo of course).

and thanks again...i hope so too.

I'm just tired that some keep reaping the fact Forgiven kept doing this, when its been posted many times allready and he has GONE from the looks of it, so all now should be fine.
I'll let you guys be the Fitness Gurus lol you seem to know your stuff.

hear you dudes loud and clear.
I certainly never thought, wanted or asked forgiven to leave - those of us who caught on to him a while back only wanted him to stop his (maybe unintended and unintentional) possible plagarism from this point forward and give credit to those who did all the work. That's it. Not much to ask. No punisHydromaxent at all. Just start flying right - NOW - from this time forward. I read what he "wrote" and if I were an AAS user, I'd say, "Damn - that's a good article - full of accurate info." No doubt.
People make mistakes - maybe since he was only 21, he did not know about copywrite laws, etc. OK But he did not have to take himself away from the forum. That's his choice I guess. Only needed to simply listen to others, learn and then do not repeat the same errors in judgement. But honesty is a big part of these forums - what works best, people's experiences, keeping people away from danger and harm, using one's own pictures if a phono is used, if something seems not quite right telling others.
I have never, ever told someone that they are not entitled to their opinions and have never tried to shut someone up. I am free to voice my opinions in an open forum - just as all you guys are - and should.
Actually I am sick and tired of all this stuff of the last few days, and only want to do what I and everyone else came here for. To get my dick bigger! Oh Yeah. I have had enough of the above stuff. I accept differences of opinions but will say something if I think it is the right thing to do. As anyone hopefully will do.
Now - I need to go and strangle (aka "bundle") my dick now.

Nice post, Muscleup! I too believe anyone has the right to post just about anything with one caveat -- it must be your own or say where you got it from or suffer the consequences. Of course Forgiven is welcome to post on the Forum. As far as I am concerned, the Forgiven issue is now closed!