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Pharmaceutical Name: liothyronine sodium
Chemical Structure: tri-iodio-thyronine (T3)
Molecular weight of base: 650.9776




Effective Dose: 25-100 µg / day orally
Average Street-price: $0.50 per 50 µg tab
Available Doses: 5,20,24,25,50 or 100 µg tabs, 20 µg/ml injection
Brands & Products:

Berlin-Chemie Trijodthyr. 50 (G) 50 mcg tabs
Glaxo Tertroxin (DK) 20 mcg injection
Tertroxin (DK,SA,CZ,GB) 20 mcg tabs
Henning Berlin Thyrotardin (G) 100 mcg dry powder
Hoechst Thybon-Forte (G) 20 or 100 mcg tabs
Ibrahim Tiromel (TK) 25 mcg tabs
Leo Tijodthyr. Leo (ES) 25 mcg tabs
Made Neo-Tiroimade (PTI) 5 or 25 mcg tabs
Merell Dow Cynomel (FR,TK,MX) 25 mcg tabs
Nycomed Liothyronin (NO,S) 20 mcg tabs
Tijodthyronin (S) 20 mcg tabs
Robinson Ro-Thyronine (US) 25 or 50 mcg tabs
Sanabo Trijod. Sanabo (A) 25 mcg tabs
Schein Cytomel tabs 5, 25 or 50 mcg tabs
Smith-Kline Cytomel (US,CN,NL,B) 5,25 or 50 mcg tabs
Linomel (Argentina) 25 mcg tabs
Uhlmann-Eyrard Cynomel (CH) 5 or 24 mcg tabs
Unipharma T3 (Israel, GR) 25 or 50 mcg tabs


Characteristics:

Cytomel is not a steroid, but more a of a cutting aid. It's a synthetic form of the thyroid hormone tri-iodio-thyronine or T3, made up of a metabolite of the amino acid tyrosine and 3 iodine ions. In the body it in turn is made from another hormone, T4, which is secreted by the thyroid under influence of the pituitary hormone TSH (Thyroid stimulating hormone). If a shortage of either TSH or T4 is noted, usually doctors may opt for a replacement therapy. These days the most common prescription is synthetic T4 (synthroid), but in more severe cases of permanent thyroid dysfunction, the choice is given to Cytomel. Simply because T4 is mostly active through its conversion to T3 and T3 is 4-5 times stronger than T4 on a µg for µg basis.

In bodybuilding circles Cytomel is mostly used as fat-loss drug. Thyroid hormones are often referred to as the metabolic regulators of the body. High levels of T3 speed up the metabolism of an individual, allowing him to burn more calories and use calories more sufficiently. Generally ectopmorphic body-types have very high thyroid levels and in some cases a slight undiagnosed form of hyperthyroidism. Both hyper-and hypothyroidism can have severe consequences on an individual, such as goiters and other nasty stuff, so messing with your thyroid is not something I would advise to beginners. As with insulin, misuse of this compound can leave you dependent on exogenous T3 for the rest of your life (remember Frank Zane?). So some caution and research is required before putting Cytomel in your body. Generally cycles should be limited to 4-6 weeks tops, I recommend 3 and alternating cycles with 3-week cycles of clenbuterol. But most importantly, to avoid a crash or a shock to the thyroid function doses need to be built up over time and tapered off again. More so for cytomel than for any other drug in existence.

In his book, Anabolics 2002, Bill Llewellyn says that Cytomel is not a drug to start off on, and that use of milder drugs like T4 (Synthroid) or triacana can help ease a person into the use of T3. I'm inclined to disagree here however. Triacana is weak compound and I find of little use. Its not easily found anymore and not cheap either. T4 is basically similar to Cytomel except that its weaker. Something that users normally compensate with higher doses and sends them down a similar lane as simply using cytomel. Agreed, cytomel is NOT a drug for beginners, but with adequate research, experience with diet and some self-control, I don't see why cytomel shouldn't be the first thyoid compound used. But for recreational users looking for a fatburner, I still suggest using clenbuterol over cytomel for all intents and purposes. Cytomel is much more powerful, but clenbuterol is a lot safer for use. The results are easier to maintain with clenbuterol as well. Negative feedback in the thyroid may decrease natural levels of T3 in the body, causing a decrease of metabolic rate after coming off a cycle of T3. That can cause a rebound effect during which a lot of weight is gained back.

For competitive bodybuilders Cytomel is an almost unmissable aid in contest preparation, along with clenbuterol and non-aromatizing steroids such as stanazolol, trenbolone, methenolone and so forth...

Stacking and Use:

It can be stacked or alternated with clenbuterol. I usually recommend to alternate, three weeks clen with three weeks cytomel, since clen loses most of its benefits after a short period of time and using cytomel for extended time-periods will increase the risk of permanent thyroid failure. Neither drug is terribly expensive so I see no problem in this. Some opt to use them together for 3-4 weeks, and then use an over the counter ECA stack to bridge with for an equal period of time, but I'm not such a big fan of that. Which naturally doesn't mean its not effective, that's just a personal opinion. Running it for three weeks, one could choose for a schedule as follows: 25/25/25/50/50/50/75/75/75/100/100/100/75/75/75/50/50/50/25/25/25 µg/day. If taken for 4 weeks, then run each dose for 4 days, 5 weeks then each dose for 5 days and so on. It is extremely important that the doses are tapered on and off and that a cycle never exceeds 6 weeks at the most.

As far as adding products, no ancillaries are needed, but its highly recommended that this is only used when anabolic/androgenic steroids are also being used. First of all the extra free calories work with the steroids to enhance results, but also because an increased level of thyroid hormones can be extremely catabolic and the use of anabolic compounds to counter muscle loss is a requirement here
 

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Damn, man. Someone should sticky this info.
You do know your stuff.
Ever use DNP?
I used clen before, it does stop working fast..
Never used T3. Scares the hell outa me :)

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to forgiven again"
 
Ulcasterdropout said:
Damn, man. Someone should sticky this info.
You do know your stuff.
Ever use DNP?
I used clen before, it does stop working fast..
Never used T3. Scares the hell outa me :)

"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to forgiven again"
No bro never Used DNP, yeah Clen a pretty good, toner and fat burn, this girl I know Use's it. :blush:
 
Forgiven, I'm really blown away with this....TOP CLASS work.
It cant be stuck, all of it anyways cos of the sticky rules ... but be DAMN SURE I'll make a thread with links to top fitness threads in here ASAP.

I wonna learn from you freind, about all this.
Could you do articles on testostarone? DHT? even prostaglandin E1?
 
LOL, thanks Red just trying to help out with some info, its all good, JUst being The MOS Anabolic Advisor and Personal trainer, LOL
 
NEVER take Cytomel without a Dr. OK!! A few guys at my gym took from the internet without any medical supervison or blood tests and really fucked their metabolisms up royally. This medication can change your bodily functions more than some "steroids" as it works on the entire physical metabolism. Very dangerous. Like some people even use insulin in bodybuilding purposes for certain reasons - very stupid to do. It's easy to kill yourself with an overdose of insulin. No -- all is not "all good"! As a medical person I know and understand these things in particular. Stay away from them and do not advertise them in a "bodybuilding" forum . We should be discussing how to improve our bodies - not ruin them.
 
muscleup said:
NEVER take Cytomel without a Dr. OK!! A few guys at my gym took from the internet without any medical supervison or blood tests and really fucked their metabolisms up royally. This medication can change your bodily functions more than some "steroids" as it works on the entire physical metabolism. Very dangerous. Like some people even use insulin in bodybuilding purposes for certain reasons - very stupid to do. It's easy to kill yourself with an overdose of insulin. No -- all is not "all good"! As a medical person I know and understand these things in particular. Stay away from them and do not advertise them in a "bodybuilding" forum . We should be discussing how to improve our bodies - not ruin them.

true. much of the stuff forgiven is telling us about are highly risky and potentially fatal bodybuilding drugs. they are not for the casual lifter by any means and t3 in particular really should be left for the serious "i don't care what it takes" hardcore bodybuilder (which, from forgiven's pics, it seems he is). i'm not criticizing or condemning anyone here; i'm just giving everyone the heads up.
 
If taken in moderation, these could help a guy in bodybuilding ... just like myself.
 
Clen/T3 is a very common weightloss stack. I've run it many times without any issues. the key point to takeaway from using clen/T3 is to ramp up the dosing and ramp back down. Quitting a cycle while on high dosing will most probably cause you problems.

For the record... as good as clen/T3 is, DNP blows it away. Moderate doses of DNP will have you losing a pound of weight Penis EnlargementR DAY. BUT BE VERY CAREFUL WITH DNP AS IT WILL KILL YOU if you don't know what you're doing. I love DNP and one time i got stupid and drank too much alcohol while on a DNP cycle and got sick as hell. My temp shot up to 101.5 deg F., got cold chills, and felt like total shit. Had to jump into the shower for about an hour to bring my temp back down... i was fine after that and finished off my cycle.

Forgiven, maybe you could do a write-up on DNP. I can send you some info if you need it.
 
Guys - all the info you are asking for is on the net....use Google, etc...in the bodybuilding sites. You can copy it yourself..This stuff was taken from the sites. Punch in the name of the drug..and voila...the same stuff. Why do we need this stuff here. There are a million bodybuilding/drug sites.
 
Red - I have read just about everything you have written on this site,before I even joined. I appreciate all your great depth of knowledge and encouragement when it comes it Penis Enlargement. I usually am not one to care one way or the other what a person says or does - every guy is a master of his own fate. But dude, it just makes me sick to see you being taken in and "getting into" this relying on or willing to try drugs for bodybuilding purposes.
I am 36 years old, an RN and know ALOT about the human body - I never stop reading. I have been glued to the gym and it's "lifestyle" since I was 14 yrs old.
Steroids, the abuse of prescription meds for bodybuilding purposes, and even some over-the-counter drugs can be very dangerous when taken - even in "moderate" amounts. And believe me....in the bodybuilding world NO ONE takes these drugs in moderation. In order to have the effect that a bodybuilder wants, he usually has to take far more than the usual and recommended dose. (Otherwise it has not the effect you are looking for).
All the info that you might want to read about is on the net...look up any bodybuilding site, type in the drug and you got all the info you will ever need.
All the stuff that has been "written" by a guy here has been taken from the net. Look at TennisNut's replys in this forum. He even tells where on the net this exact info has been lifted from. It's just a copy. No one here wrote it.
Red - this stuff has brought nothing but heartache and misery to the guys I have seen use it. They usually have very low self esteem and want to fluff themselves up - being bigger than others in order to feel good about themselves - and are willing to exact their health to do it.
I have seen great guys become total jerks and assholes. Some got so sick they ended up in the ICU. Some had cysts the size of baseballs in their hips due to the constant injections - then their body finally said NO MORE and rebelled. Some even today have gland problems and can't get their body to function properly - even way after they QUIT the drug lifestyle. Everybody had high blood pressure - it comes with the territory when doing these drugs.
One guy even took his own life.
'Roids do not-so-funny things to your mind. You can't tell it yourself how different you are acting - but others around you surely can.
Don't let ANYONE fool you - God gave you a magnificent body and mind and has taught you to use it and develope it wisely - not dangerously.
Please do not take this the wrong way - I know this has been a soap box I suppose - but I hate to see really nice guys who really seem to enjoy helping others achieve their goals - like you Red, DLD, Still and so many other super dudes here - get caught in the down spiral that is in some "bodybuilding" circles. It is not "bodybuilding" they are espousing, it is a slow and sick death of your body and even of spirit which they are laying out before you to entice you with.
Well - there you have it. Not trying to be super critical and a know-it-all. But in my young life so far I have seen some aweful, permanent things happen to some of the most gifted and wonderful people you would ever want to meet.
It's just that I am beginning to see here the beginnings of some pretty dangerous things - all of which I have seen and read before many times over.... And I also know that the odds are probably greater than 99% I won't be listened to. Guys have a drive in them that sometimes is stronger than their will to use good judgement.
But maybe I have planted a thought which might help someone out. All-in-all, I think we are more familiar with ourselves than we think.
 
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i think u make sense... all these muscle enhancements, whether they are prohormones, anabolic pills, steroids et.c. are all somewhat similar and all of them, have certain bad side effects.. thats why i only stick to the natural way... although its ALOT of hard work at the gym and consuming certain protein enriched foods, its really worth it!
 
I totally disagree... it's funny how people in the medical field think that by default they know it all about anabolic steroids when the truth is that they know absolutely jack shit about it. I've spoken to more than a handfull of doctors about anabolic steroids and all they ever spew is the crap that you see in the media. They didn't even know how to properly plan a cycle much less propper pct and PCT meds like Clomid, Nolva, HCG, letro, etc. We all know how misinformed the meida is about Penis Enlargement, well that exactly how they are about AAS. The fact is that they see the worst side of AAS use (from the uninformed teenage users) when the fact is that 95% of users will never experience these same effects. There are best practices that informed users follow like propper stacking, orals vs injectables, PCT, injection site rotation, etc... I've been on a dozen cycles and NEVER even an abcess, high blood pressure, or any other side because i make sure i understand the compound that i plan on using. If you go to any good AAS board, the first thing they tell newbies is to "do more research" because this is what responsible use entails. Why don't all you nurses and doctors "do more research" before you talk about crap that's over your head.
 
muscleup said:
Red - I have read just about everything you have written on this site,before I even joined. I appreciate all your great depth of knowledge and encouragement when it comes it Penis Enlargement. I usually am not one to care one way or the other what a person says or does - every guy is a master of his own fate. But dude, it just makes me sick to see you being taken in and "getting into" this relying on or willing to try drugs for bodybuilding purposes.
I am 36 years old, an RN and know ALOT about the human body - I never stop reading. I have been glued to the gym and it's "lifestyle" since I was 14 yrs old.
Steroids, the abuse of prescription meds for bodybuilding purposes, and even some over-the-counter drugs can be very dangerous when taken - even in "moderate" amounts. And believe me....in the bodybuilding world NO ONE takes these drugs in moderation. In order to have the effect that a bodybuilder wants, he usually has to take far more than the usual and recommended dose. (Otherwise it has not the effect you are looking for).
All the info that you might want to read about is on the net...look up any bodybuilding site, type in the drug and you got all the info you will ever need.
All the stuff that has been "written" by a guy here has been taken from the net. Look at TennisNut's replys in this forum. He even tells where on the net this exact info has been lifted from. It's just a copy. No one here wrote it.
Red - this stuff has brought nothing but heartache and misery to the guys I have seen use it. They usually have very low self esteem and want to fluff themselves up - being bigger than others in order to feel good about themselves - and are willing to exact their health to do it.
I have seen great guys become total jerks and assholes. Some got so sick they ended up in the ICU. Some had cysts the size of baseballs in their hips due to the constant injections - then their body finally said NO MORE and rebelled. Some even today have gland problems and can't get their body to function properly - even way after they QUIT the drug lifestyle. Everybody had high blood pressure - it comes with the territory when doing these drugs.
One guy even took his own life.
'Roids do not-so-funny things to your mind. You can't tell it yourself how different you are acting - but others around you surely can.
Don't let ANYONE fool you - God gave you a magnificent body and mind and has taught you to use it and develope it wisely - not dangerously.
Please do not take this the wrong way - I know this has been a soap box I suppose - but I hate to see really nice guys who really seem to enjoy helping others achieve their goals - like you Red, DLD, Still and so many other super dudes here - get caught in the down spiral that is in some "bodybuilding" circles. It is not "bodybuilding" they are espousing, it is a slow and sick death of your body and even of spirit which they are laying out before you to entice you with.
Well - there you have it. Not trying to be super critical and a know-it-all. But in my young life so far I have seen some aweful, permanent things happen to some of the most gifted and wonderful people you would ever want to meet.
It's just that I am beginning to see here the beginnings of some pretty dangerous things - all of which I have seen and read before many times over.... And I also know that the odds are probably greater than 99% I won't be listened to. Guys have a drive in them that sometimes is stronger than their will to use good judgement.
But maybe I have planted a thought which might help someone out. All-in-all, I think we are more familiar with ourselves than we think.

i couldn't have said it better. i'm living proof of this. i made the mistake of using steroids and it left me with a permanent hormonal imbalance that so far, seems to be permanent. i will regret for the rest of my life that my insecurities got the best of me.
 
sikdogg said:
I totally disagree... it's funny how people in the medical field think that by default they know it all about anabolic steroids when the truth is that they know absolutely jack shit about it. I've spoken to more than a handfull of doctors about anabolic steroids and all they ever spew is the crap that you see in the media. They didn't even know how to properly plan a cycle much less propper pct and PCT meds like Clomid, Nolva, HCG, letro, etc. We all know how misinformed the meida is about Penis Enlargement, well that exactly how they are about AAS. The fact is that they see the worst side of AAS use (from the uninformed teenage users) when the fact is that 95% of users will never experience these same effects. There are best practices that informed users follow like propper stacking, orals vs injectables, PCT, injection site rotation, etc... I've been on a dozen cycles and NEVER even an abcess, high blood pressure, or any other side because i make sure i understand the compound that i plan on using. If you go to any good AAS board, the first thing they tell newbies is to "do more research" because this is what responsible use entails. Why don't all you nurses and doctors "do more research" before you talk about crap that's over your head.

sikdogg - I couldn't agree with you more - believe it or not. Most med people haven't got a clue - let alone know even the names - about AAS.
The above was just my opinion. I will defend you and anyone else who has an opposing idea to talk about it. That is what a forum is for.
I certainly am not angry or upset because another person (such as yourself) has a different viewpoint. But i do think we all should let others' express their views also - without calling their ideas or beliefs "crap".
I happen to be someone who is not thrilled with AAS, and felt like voicing my opinion. I have stated it. Am also glad that you have the ability to rebutt it. But.....this is just one topic. So what. I think probably there are all kinds of other issues important to us here - pe included of course.
I certainly respect and appreciate your responses when others' have questions or just want to talk on these forums here at MOS. Your answers show that you have put a lot of thought behind them and are answering to the best of your ability and honesty. I, and I am sure, lots of other guys appreciate you bigtime - I know I do. But I also have the right to voice my opinion in a forum without being yelled at because of disagreement.
 
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I myself know all about illegal drugs and what to take and not too, I'm a cop and have busted a few gyms.
Thing is when you say, BB forums why post it here cos its everywhere, well look at the name......its the health section and BB can go here, I cant CHANGE that.
End of the day, I didnt know Forgiven was full of shit...and pasted it from a BB site, nor do I care, cos peeps dos peeps do this anyway and secondly Forgiven has pissed off from MOS.
If you dont like BB coming here, than fine ... just DO NOT force that view onto others, like myself who dont mind it coming here.
Simple as that.
I respect what you said ect but I have my own opnions and will stick by them.
 
Muscleup, bro i didn't intend to come on so strong when i made that reply. Now that i re-read it it does sound angry, my appologies. It just get real old hearing the same old retoric (sp?) about AAS. Yes you have your opinion and we differ on this topic. let's agree to disagree as neither os us is going to change their anytime soon.
 
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