Cellular Manipulation

A new idea--

I have been researching the Penimaster/Jes-Extender---
& Ive have an idea-----

1st. The theory behind the tool is sound. Traction devices make sense to me for increasing length. This idea is used for Small people who have their leggs broken, then through a process of lengthing & extending rods in small amounts, their Tib/Fibula bones are lengthened in a period of time.---

I am not sure about these companies claims that i can also increase girth by 19%---not really sure ;(

My idea would be to use this device & only this device accompanied by a 6 month cycle of HGH (Humatropin) probably 2iu/day. Along with eod applications of DHT gel & this new stuff (www.enlargel.com){which was developed of a period of 2 years by the guys over @ penis-health.com.

I will also do a 4 month cycle of Extagen---it is a pill
extagen was the first pill that i tried & the only one that i can say i definately got results from. Ive tried Viacyn with no noticeable result, ive also tried Pro-solution pills that i think gave me some noticable results. But, i am not sure it was definately the PSP pill, as i was also cycling NO2 at the time.


anyway--

here is what i plan to do--

Traction device 10-14 hours daily --i work at an office sitting down all day so i dont think it will be a problem. (6am to 4pm, then take i off to hit the gym--then 6pm to around 9 pm, take it off & hit the sack.

I plan to apply the enlargel daily, but the dht eod in half doses (1.25g)
along with a daily dose of extagen.--& HGH 2iu/daily. maybe even throw in some NO2 cycle (1 bottle) into the mix


Now--
The claim of "Cellular Manipulation" sounds great---
i think the additional topical creams will also assist in cellular developement.
THe Dht will help in hyperplasia---

anyway


what do you guys think???


I plan to do this & only this (no jelquing at all) i may throw in some uli's while taking a dump but nothing destructive like jelquing.

Hello mate, Please keep us informed of your progress using Enlargel, Let us know how it working and if you feel that you have value for money. Also let us know if you make any gains using it.

DUDE EXTAGEN IS CRAPPPPPPP!!!!! I cant stress it anymore with out looking like i cant type. I had bought 3 bottles from them(like 75 dollas a bottle plus shipping) and took them everyday. I was optomistic but got RIpped the fuck off. I definately think that it must of been something else that helped u gain. Also what did u gain supposedly from the supplements no2 or/and extagen(crap). im not trying to shoot u down by the way. good luck on cellular manipulation!

extagen was the first stuff that i used---
i did gain off of those, probably the most of any pills i have used before--

now i also used Pro-Solution pills, along with NO2--(psp pills are from the guys over at penis-health.com, they also came up with the enlarge gel)
i gained from this combo as well (i was also taking creatine & Hydromaxb at the time)


crap huh???
Hydromaxmmm.....makes me reconsider

are you talking about that rig with the little rods?i saw something called euro-extender it sounds similar to that.it would be interesting to see what the results from just using that would be.

yamaha11, how much did you gain in inches or cm off the pills extagen(girth and length). they were an absolute waste to me and probably millions of others but since you say they worked for you i would like to inquire you on how much you've gained. Also i really havent heard of gains from anybody taking penis enlargement pills except the guys who are advertising the product like.....I Gained 3 inches in length and 2 inches in girth in just 11 weeks! Great Product and a MUST BUY for all the people who dont feel SATISFIED with there endowment. Jim O'Brein Los Angeles California..... I hope and wish you the best but also take into account experience in measuring before and after knowing about penis enlargement. I for one definately didnt know to measure BPenis EnlargementL or girth or any of it i just measured how big it was from the skin on. SEE YA

dont laugh, but here it is--

before i used the extagen pills, (i dont know what my exactly what my girth measurement was at the time) but i could put my penis into a large gatorage bottle---look at the size of the mouth piece-maybe 4 5/8"--but after i think a week, out of curiosity i thought i would put it in a bottle again just to see if i gained anything.--
well, when i tried, i couldnt get it even over the glans........so thats when i was convinced that the pills do work, & that started my Penis Enlargement adventure.




& i have made a couple detrimental mistakes as well


you are talking about these pills correct? www.extagen.com

Yes that the same extagen, i just logged onto the site bad memories....I think it could of been something else when you saw your GAINS. NOBODY (in my opinion) makes real GAINS in a week. I think the reason this could of happened because some of the ingriedents provide increased bloodflow. Like your dick wasnt completely engorged when you first put it in but after the pills increased your libido and your head MAximaly engorged to make it seem like your got bigger.

maybe your right

Im2mackin said:

I had bought 3 bottles from them(like 75 dollas a bottle plus shipping)

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Damn, thats like groceries for two weeks!

not for me dude i eat like mutha fucka spendin like 300 a week.

Im2mackin said:

not for me dude i eat like mutha fucka spendin like 300 a week.

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You don't have to pay for the forums either

Is it scientifically ethical to conduct a cellular manipulation experiment without having a good idea how the cells are going to be manipulated, why, and possible ramifications?

Game on!

AlloyCG said:

Is it scientifically ethical to conduct a cellular manipulation experiment without having a good idea how the cells are going to be manipulated, why, and possible ramifications?

Game on!

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Damn AlloyCG, Nice!! job on the girth gains. I really am just getting started on girth. I am still hung up on my length. I want to hit that 7 inch mark bad. But f****** nice job!

yamaha12 said:

A new idea--
My idea would be to use this device & only this device accompanied by a 6 month cycle of HGH (Humatropin) probably 2iu/day. Along with eod applications of DHT gel & this new stuff (www.enlargel.com){which was developed of a period of 2 years by the guys over @ penis-health.com.


Now--
The claim of "Cellular Manipulation" sounds great---
i think the additional topical creams will also assist in cellular developement.
THe Dht will help in hyperplasia---

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I think any of those stretcher devices would work great if they weren't so uncomfortable/dangerous to use. There must be some people out there who have no issues with them, but I'm sure they're the exception. If you can handle 14 hours a day then I'd say you're in for some great gains. Personally I can't get a jes to stay on for more than about 15mins without major hypoxia.

DHT and HGH might be helpful, but I don't think they'd do anything on their own without first creating a growth incentive (like the traction), and if you can handle the traction I think you'd get gains anyway without the risk and cost of the ancilliaries. My (current) working model is that DHT/HGH et al would be more useful for trauma repairing growth, where as adaptation through traction would happen whether or not since you have cell turnover.

Hydromaxm----nice point man--thanks


im sure the hgh or igf wouldnt hurt though---
i think most of the injuries have happened from heavy traction to quickly.
the study that is posted on the jes website states that there was a small traction force of 450-900g for weeks 0-2 & then upped to 1000-1200g for weeks 3-24.
now i have never tries one of these devices, so i dont know what that feels like, but ive been researching different threads & forums on additional padding/tape ect. you can put on the head of your penis to lessen the pain.

i cant wait-

i work at an office so wearing it from 6 to whenever will not be a problem

If you need to take it off every 30mins or so then imho there is room for improvement in design. Also, if you're particular setup allows you to go and take a few minutes to deal with the 30 min break then you have a fighting chance of making it work.

It just seems to me that the right way to go about it would be to create something that you could fit and forget. Perhaps I'm being unreasonable, but that's the way I see it making mass appeal.

i think there is a break in period or pain threshold you have to experience. Experimenting with what is comfortable & so on.

i have never done anything but manual stretching--
i have never hung weight or anything to that nature.

i did the conversion of the max ammount of traction (1200g)
that is eaqual to 2.645548 pounds--

to me that doesnt seem alot, but then again i have never hung or had a manual stretcher