So the wife and I were talking about the subcatagories of pleasure to define an accurate means by which we can determine the requirements of meeting satisfaction. So when we got down to the nitty gritty, she admitted that bigger dicks are more aesthetically pleasing to her as well as physically more intense and pleasurable. The biggest guy she's ever been with was smaller than I am, but the dildos we use together are 7 inches length insertable, and 6-6.25 inches in girth. She said 6 inches is perfect for her which to me is horrowing but also enlightening. Now I have a good point of reference to get too, but now I'm thinking that she's not satisfied at all by my current size. Honestly, I don't care anymore cause I realized that its not my job to be responsible for her satisfaction. My big worry is that when I do get to 6 inches in girth, she may want more. that's depressing to try and achieve a moving target.
Wife admits she's a size queen
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I imagine she doesn't have very tight pussy from all the kids. She wouldn't use kegel balls to tighten up her vaj?
You can also reference the fact of a tighter pussy feels far more satisfactory. Like templnite suggested, the kegel balls will tighten her up and you'll feel different to her, next time she inquires about her favorite size. If your not happy with your size, it's your own right to do what you want to make yourself happy. If she's not happy about it and starts to make comments at all, the relationship is over. The point of being together is your both happy with each other the way you are. We can make our dicks bigger, they can't shrink their pussies, only strengthen muscles. There's a difference. Strive for the goal you want and if she isn't pleased with it, then you were correct that you'll be chasing an unattainable goal. I'm sorry, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna fist a bitch. You can definitely reach beyond 7 inches in length and 6.25 in girth, the problem is that your using dildos, so she's referencing an inanimate object, not a human being, the person she married. Next time the subject is brought up, bring up about your worries. If she doesn't acknowledge them and come to an understanding, it's time to move on. You chased her and got her, but, a woman who is not satisfied is a woman who will hurt someone. The only one who will get hurt here is you my brother. I don't want that and it shouldn't be that way. The fact that it worried you is enough to have another conversation. Always be forthcoming, if a woman is unable to accept them, she is not for you. Easy peezy lemon squeezy. Fill us in on anything you may have forgotten. I don't wanna come off as a jerk, I just don't believe one side of a relationship should get everything.
templnite;678743 said:
She uses those weighted egg things she has to hold up there all day to tighten up. I just can't tell a difference. It may be due to her not being consistent with it. Who knows. She has had 2 kids, but she's always been pretty loose and she's known it since she was young. So maybe she does require something bigger, but I'm not going to attach myself to that. I attached my self-worth to her before and it ruined me. A moving target though bothers me the most.
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Six inch girth is enough bro, and if that doesn't work you can always shoot for seven like me "O
Also the balls I meant are two ones sitting on a string, and I think the instructions at you need to be walking around for them to work
Also the balls I meant are two ones sitting on a string, and I think the instructions at you need to be walking around for them to work
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MoreThanLuck;678795 said:
That's where the problem is. You don't trust her. No offense to your morals brother but you need to really go into this relationship. You two are probably just going through the motions of everyday life with each other. I understand the need to stay together for the kids but is it healthy for you.
Anyways, how is your health?
Really, how is your heart?
runningignus;678824 said:
Leaving isn't an option for me; by my very nature I am not a quiter. I have two young children, and they do really mean the world to me as well. Healthwise I'm a beast. I'm in near perfect condition. More often than not I look like a chiseled Greek statue (small penis included, but I'm looking to change that) 😁.
How is my heart? Well for the last year I've been running off of pain, and hatred. Our relationship isn't all that great cause she lies all the time (even though there are brief periods where she tells the truth like last night). So you're right, I don't trust her. We also have ghosts in our past which also have enhanced the mistrust. Overall if you overlook all that, she is a great mother, she tries to be a good person, but she just can't communicate properly and she has a ginormous vagina. I began this trip because of her, but it has turned into so much more. Now that I have seperated myself from her emotionally, my goals have switched from doing this for her to doing this for myself, and part of the overall aesthetics I want to reach. My only real problem with all this is my reference points. I have 4 goals defined. My first one has been reached (that was to be bigger than the biggest guy she's ever been with), the rest is just iceing on the cake, but now I hear all this crap about needing to achieve this moving goal. Really sucks.
To speak on the "moving target" you have mentioned...you don't know if that will be the case. You don't know she will want bigger girth for sure. Is it possible she may and b/c you got to 6" she thinks why not go bigger, yes it's possible, but it's not guaranteed she will feel that way. Try not to stress yourself out about that when you don't know it's that way for certain. Keep up the hard work in all aspects of your life like you have been and that will always lead you to a better place mentally.
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loose vags need bigger cocks then ROFL..rofl
MoreThanLuck;678838 said:
I Truthfully understand brother. My ex had 2 kids and she was a little loose, then she had my son. She loosened up as well. I've been there and talked with her as well. Some women don't have the will to do the work. Even if it's for the man they love. I just went through the motions for years. There was no love after a while. We had our pasts and I put my entire faith into her, needless to say, she's dead to me now. I take care of my son and see my step daughter as much as I can. Life is about choices, it ain't quitting if it's already over. I'm not a quitter by no means, but a man has to know when a battle isn't worth it. She's not accepting of who you are now and your not happy. Good mother or not, your a part of the family as well brother.
MoreThanLuck;678838 said:
Not being quick to throw in the towel marriage wise is a good thing and I salute for for it. If you haven't read/listened to the Five Love Languages I would suggest it because it could help you with your marriage. If she is one that like the physical it is ok for you to compromise and meet her in the middle
I agree with you, going after a moving target can be hard but it doesn't sound like she is overbearing on her desires. I mean we all have an ideal we desire (maybe for you that she be tighter) but at the same time if we are not tearing the other person down because of our desires then that is fine. I believe there is a way to communicate desires so that the other person doesn't feel belittled which in turn can cause negative results. Most of us here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] are here because of some communication that belittled us (be it media or another person) that made us feel like we were less of a man than we should be .... However, it isn't how you start and what bought you here, it is what you make of it. You have to internalize what you want not because of what someone else desires but because it is what you want. Sometimes it is the case that what someone else wants and what we want aligns and it is perfect; however, if you do not feel this way about your size then don't chase after the unknown goal.
Speaking of the goal, it sounds like you are approaching it with fear because you think your lady will want more and more. For some on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] that wouldn't be a bad thing lol because there are plenty of guys here that want to have beyond huge.
Anyway, communicate with your lady and I hope everything works out for you sexually.
Commodore;678859 said:
The wife has always kinda been a little loose, but never so terribly that I couldn't make it work. After two kids, to me it bounced back for the most part, but to her it didn't. She said that she went to the doctor to talk about it after my little girl was born, but that they suggested kegels and levels hasn't been doing anything for her really. Feels like the last 15 years has been a waste of time, but the next 15 won't be!
It's never wasted if your happy. Remember the happy times and don't worry about the bad. Just the way you make it seem like your just not truly happy anymore.
Ouch! So the wife and I have a conversation this weekend about our sex life, and somehow she let it slip that she's never been satisfied sexually in our relationship because of my average junk. So I know her pretty well, so I ask her if she believes an orgasm is the point at which she is satisfied or is it just the act itself. She said that an orgasm is not as important as having that 'full' feeling all the time (because it does get looser during sex and its harder to achieve orgasm), and being able to hit all the spots effortlessly. So really this conversation only affected me in the fact that the last 15 years was a waste of time with this woman sexually. Other than that I am mentally okay cause (1) I don't care if she's satisfied or not, and (2) we use a bigger dildo all the time that seems to do the trick. Which keeps her around and allows me to get some ass whenever I need it so I can satisfy myself. 😆. The only thing that did come out of these last 15 years was my ability to eat pussy. I am a grand master at that at least. 😄
Expectations are the things that cause trouble in a relationship. I made it clear to her that I am in no way responsible for another persons pleasure or a means by which they derive sexual satisfaction.
She understands this and has agreed.
Just remember that things only discourage you if you let them have the power too! Keep moving forward my brothers to a bigger baddass you, and let the haters hate.
Expectations are the things that cause trouble in a relationship. I made it clear to her that I am in no way responsible for another persons pleasure or a means by which they derive sexual satisfaction.
She understands this and has agreed.
Just remember that things only discourage you if you let them have the power too! Keep moving forward my brothers to a bigger baddass you, and let the haters hate.
Sorry to hear that bro... Just keep your positive mentality as things can change fast. Plus, dont worry about sex, as its only sex. You had your kids, the life goal and that's all that should matter, in addition with your happiness.
How is your PE going though? If She wants fullness, its time to invest in all girth work day and night.
How is your PE going though? If She wants fullness, its time to invest in all girth work day and night.
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MoreThanLuck;687777 said:
did she say 6 inch length or girth was what was perfect for her? Ah i'm sorry to hear she said that man, I have very deep paranoia my gf feels the same way.
Nolove;687784 said:
Its okay, there's always a silver lining. I do both girth and length work. Girth at night (erect stretches, hanging, and pumping), and now use the PF all day, but I won't focus purely on something because she feels like she needs it. That's her problem not mine. Work like this should never be done for the selfishness of others. Only yourself. Because if you're working towards someone else's expectations, you'll always lose out. Today she wants 6 inch girth. Tomorrow she wants 6.5 inch girth. The next day she wants 7 inch girth. You see where this is going. Point is, you can't satisfy everyone, not even your significant other.
It was funny cause this weekend we all went to go out together to get haircuts and run errands, and a new hairstylist came to cut my hair and she was this drop dead, absolutely gorgeous (by any mans standard), 20 y/o hotty with a great personality. For a second I was thinking this chick had to be a tranny. No woman could be this hot and not be crazy (reference crazy hot chart on youtube Hilarious!). Anyways, we were chatting and laughing and flirting and my wife was just sitting there watching the whole thing. When I came back she was soooo pissed. 😂 When we got back to the car I said, "hmm, nice to know I can get young hot girls if I wanted too with no problems". 😉😉😉. Note that all of this took place after our sex conversation. Haha
lightlyfried;687797 said:
My bad, it was 6 inch girth that was perfect for her.
MoreThanLuck;687800 said:
I thought you said in another thread her limit was 6,5? Does she literally go from wanting 6.5 - 7 inch girth form day to day? Women like that will never be happy, 7"+ girth is rarer than rare.
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wow! thank you for your honesty and transparency...that would be one tough pill to swallow. Unfortunately, detachment would be the only mechanism available for self-preservation and then you're also hurting yourself by doing so. I'm curious if every single man has had this haunting, never-mentioned fear of not being either the biggest she's had or be big enough to fully satisfy her. I know I have on almost every occasion regardless of the responses I get...I also wonder if every woman can sense this, (I'm guessing they can and the truly diabolical ones use it every chance they get).
Overcoming this fear I think should be one of the core fundamentals of PE...the freedom from fear should be a primary goal.
Overcoming this fear I think should be one of the core fundamentals of PE...the freedom from fear should be a primary goal.
This thread has scared has scared me shitless. I guess if I gain the same as golfer john i could be above the 6" perfect girth.
lightlyfried;687806 said:
Her limit is 6.25. This is the point at which there is still more pleasure than there is pain. 6 inches is what she said was "perfect" when we first started using the other dildo. Then we went up to 6.25.
BTW, she's admittedly always been looser than normal. After the kids she's gotten even worse. But before the kids 5.5 was her general limit (verified through dildos). After the kids we though it was 6. Now its 6.25.
That relaxin-2 is some shit during pregnancy. Expands those ligaments and opens up the pelvis like it's no joke.
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lightlyfried;687816 said:
Haha. I'm so sorry brother! The intention of this thread wasn't to scare or create fears in others. It was to vent frustrations a bit and allow myself and many others who have similar experiences to move forward. Note that this is 1 woman out of millions. I haven't had a problem satisfying other women; just this one. Insignificant I say when there are so many other women who are willing to take what she has (aka me). 😁
PE is salvation, but it's also a constant reminder of the prisons we put ourselves in. Why do men care so much that they can't satisfy a woman? What do we win if we do? What do we win if we don't? Nothing in both conditions. So if we are satisfying our own biological needs, why does it matter that someone elses needs aren't being met and how does that directly affect you? It doesn't.
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lightlyfried;687816 said:
I've always had that gnawing feeling and have tried, (unsuccessfully) to stuff it down and bury it...this site has been refreshing in the sense that it feels safe to explore those feelings/fears in a 99.9% healthy environment.
This is a very real issue that I never recall seeing discussed honestly ever! This could be at the very root of many insecurities that end-up manifesting into unhealthy behaviors. Am I the only one that feels this is a major point worthy of full exploration? This could remove that 'I thought I was the only guy to feel this way' isolationism. I think the OP exhibited some serious heuvos to put himself that far 'out there'...that's brave, thank you
MoreThanLuck;687826 said:
No harm done bro, vent away, i'd be doing the same in your situation. So before you both had children, 5.5 girth was her limit? If her limit post children was 6.25 thats reassuring as I could probably get to that and beyond in a year. Just preying in the next 5 years I get a minimum of 1 inch girth gain, and i'm in the safe zone lol! It just goes to show how are perceptions change, even me being above average I feel inadequate. If a size queen is satisfied after children with 6 girth, thats more reassuring ish I guess
MoreThanLuck;687777 said:
At least she is honest! So many liars out there that do not realize, if you don't identify the problem you can not fix it. I suggest something I used to do, get my girth work in right before sex, this way I was any my thickest. With the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] you can make some great temporary gains to use during sex, just get a solid 5x5 set in and you will be thicker and she will be more satisfied. And remember, eventually she will get exactly the cock she wants, custom ordered and delivered by the Brotherhood.
doublelongdaddy;687841 said:
Very true! Though I'm looking for a way to shrink my penis to micro proportions just to spite her. 😝
MoreThanLuck;687878 said:
Was she honest with her preference of size before you were married?
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MoreThanLuck;687878 said:
haha amazing,i think thats a sad n dissapointing situation,but if a woman wants something bigger shed have to look for it somewhere else.id continue whit my PE career.n things will improve for me..
She will be refgretful n will get lost for life LOL
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lightlyfried;687883 said:
Good question.
lightlyfried;687883 said:
No. We got married when we were 19. We were just in love and happy enough to have an ongoing partner. Penis size wasn't important to either of us (or at least it wasn't to me at the time). We're both 34 now.
MoreThanLuck;687927 said:
So it wasn't a topic of conversation prior?
lightlyfried;687958 said:
No. Neither one of us were very experienced back then. She had a total of two partners before she met me (the first for a month, and the second was just sex one time). The first guy she couldn't even tell they were having sex (which makes me want to bring that dude to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. 😁 ), and the second guy was between 6-6.5 length, and 5.25-5.5 in girth. So the second guy was her only real reference point. I knew I was smaller than the 2nd guy, but she never mentioned that she liked bigger back then. That's when I went out and bought a Kaplan air pump (motorized and everything) and started using it secretly. I only used it a handful of times before I gave up (thinking it was all a hoax because I didn't see gains immediately) and 13 years later started using it again. Now I use it 3-4 days a week and have surpassed the 1.75 in diameter cylinder. I just wish I had used it this whole time. I would be a monster by now. Ohh well, one cannot dwell on the past. Must keep pushing forward and doing things the right way! 😊
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I think I'd really struggle with this...kudos to you, you're a bigger man than I
golferjohn;688045 said:
Yes, its a huge hit, but I've been hit harder and I've gotten back up and said "hit me again bitch". Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment or maybe I just prefer the truth over believing the bullshit she's tried to spoon feed me over the years. Either way, when I step back from this I realize that I'm not small by any means. I'm right smack in the normal range which most men are anyways. Is it a crime to be normal? No. To me, that just means that most men wouldn't be able to satisfy her either. So I'm right back where I started. PE is her solution to her problem. I say her problem cause I've never had a problem with any other woman. Just saying. What does an apple falling in an orchard in west Virginia have to do with tsunami's in Japan....nothing right? Nor is it a direct problem of mine. That's all her, but PE is for me. The main thing that pisses me off about her is when she comes out of nowhere and lies to my face about enjoy a particular (recent) session of sex we've had. Ive already told her I don't care to hear about it and to just stop.
I honestly can't wait till I get to gigantic proportions. I'm gonna get a side chick and let my wife watch me fuck her with it, but never actually use it on my wife . 😈😈😈.
MoreThanLuck;688048 said:
Bullshit about her not being a size queen or enjoying sex?
lightlyfried;688072 said:
It was about enjoying the sex. There wasn't a self realization that she was a size queen until my son was born 5 years ago. That's when she really couldn't feel me though I couldn't tell the difference.
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doublelongdaddy;688385 said:
That's kinda a slippery slope. It starts out as wonderment because an experience doesn't exist yet that gives her the ability to determine whether or not its a preference. If she's loose as hell, and doesn't get that full feeling, then of course a larger dick would be her preference. It meets a condition which is a requirement to her satisfaction.
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lightlyfried;688457 said:
I believe it's called kegaling (sp?)
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I wasn't being literal...my thought would be to avoid surgery and to a bit of exercise
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It could just be my own cross-to-bear, but deep-down in places I rarely/don't want to visit, I truly desire to be the biggest, (and in-time, once I've navigated the physical/emotional/intellectual terrain) the best she's ever had. It's purely ego-driven, unrealistic and immature...but it's the way I feel.
Has any other women that The Brotherhood experienced ever confessed to being a 'size queen' or equivalent? I think I'd take it as a challenge at first, but if her previous encounters have been w/Mandingo-types, it could be a sad conclusion.
Has any other women that The Brotherhood experienced ever confessed to being a 'size queen' or equivalent? I think I'd take it as a challenge at first, but if her previous encounters have been w/Mandingo-types, it could be a sad conclusion.
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lightlyfried;688522 said:
Jeez Fried, where are you finding these women who freely express stuff like this?