What temperature for maximum benefit? 104 degrees?

[kushextender]

Hi. I would like to know what temp has been shown for maximum benefit. I have a heating device which I can set to a certain temp, and I hear 104 is best for collagen deformation and growth. Is 104 okay for the body to feel without damage, and does this seem like a good temp?

Thanks.

 

[DLD]

Hi. I would like to know what temp has been shown for maximum benefit. I have a heating device which I can set to a certain temp, and I hear 104 is best for collagen deformation and growth. Is 104 okay for the body to feel without damage, and does this seem like a good temp?

Thanks.

Interesting post. I know that I made my best gains when I was using a heating pad on high. It occasionally got too hot but I would just give myself a rest. Stretching after long periods of heating are really incredible. An exact temperature is hard to distinguish using my method.

 

[Threak-X]

How would you know it's at 104°F. Stick a thermometer in your urethra and check it's temperature? (~LOL~)

 

[Bionic]

I've read a study that showed heating to 45 degrees celcius (~113 degrees farenheit) was the temp to shoot for. The study used far infrared light for heating. This is due to the fact that this type of light can penetrate the body up to about 4 inches, I believe. When heated to this temp. permanent stretch was realized and it caused far less damage than stretching w/o heat. This is the reason that many yoga studios use this same temp and type of heat. It does a number on your fertility though, so tread carefully and avoid this if you are trying to impregnate someone.

UPDATE: I had this saved on my computer for some reason. LOL

The following information has been summarized from Chapter 9 of Therapeutic Heat and Cold, Fourth Edition, Editors Justus F. LeHydromaxann, M.D., Williams, and Wilkin, or concluded from data gathered there.

Generally it is accepted that heat produces the following desirable therapeutic effects:

1. Infrared heat increases the extensibility of collagen tissues.
Tissues heated to 45 degrees Celsius and then stretched exhibit a non-elastic residual elongation of about 0.5 to 0.9 percent that persists after the stretch is removed. This does not occur in these same tissues when stretched at normal tissue temperatures. Therefore 20 stretching sessions can produce a 10 to 18 percentage increase in length of tissues heated and stretched.
Stretching of tissue in the presence of heat would be especially valuable in working with ligaments, joint capsules, tendons, fasciae, and synoviurn that have become scarred, thickened, or contracted. Such stretching at 45 degrees Celsius caused much less weakening in stretched tissues for a given elongation than a similar elongation produced at normal tissue temperatures.
Experiments cited clearly showed low-force stretching could produce significant residual elongation when heat is applied together with stretching or range-of-motion exercises. This is safer than stretching tissues at normal tissue temperatures

 

[Threak-X]

I've read a study that showed heating to 45 degrees celcius (~113 degrees farenheit) was the temp to shoot for. The study used far infrared light for heating. This is due to the fact that this type of light can penetrate the body up to about 4 inches, I believe. When heated to this temp. permanent stretch was realized and it caused far less damage than stretching w/o heat. This is the reason that many yoga studios use this same temp and type of heat. It does a number on your fertility though, so tread carefully and avoid this if you are trying to impregnate someone.

UPDATE: I had this saved on my computer for some reason. LOL

The following information has been summarized from Chapter 9 of Therapeutic Heat and Cold, Fourth Edition, Editors Justus F. LeHydromaxann, M.D., Williams, and Wilkin, or concluded from data gathered there.

Generally it is accepted that heat produces the following desirable therapeutic effects:

1. Infrared heat increases the extensibility of collagen tissues.
Tissues heated to 45 degrees Celsius and then stretched exhibit a non-elastic residual elongation of about 0.5 to 0.9 percent that persists after the stretch is removed. This does not occur in these same tissues when stretched at normal tissue temperatures. Therefore 20 stretching sessions can produce a 10 to 18 percentage increase in length of tissues heated and stretched.
Stretching of tissue in the presence of heat would be especially valuable in working with ligaments, joint capsules, tendons, fasciae, and synoviurn that have become scarred, thickened, or contracted. Such stretching at 45 degrees Celsius caused much less weakening in stretched tissues for a given elongation than a similar elongation produced at normal tissue temperatures.
Experiments cited clearly showed low-force stretching could produce significant residual elongation when heat is applied together with stretching or range-of-motion exercises. This is safer than stretching tissues at normal tissue temperatures

The Therapad web-site also states the exact same thing in their product in the following section:

HOW THE THERAPAD PRODUCES PAIN RELIEF

Increases the extensibility of collagen tissues

• Tissues heated to 45° C (113°F) and then stretched exhibit a non-elastic residual elongation of about 0.5 - 0.9% that persists after the stretch is removed which does not occur in these same tissues when stretched at normal tissue temperatures. Thus 20 stretching sessions can produce a 10 - 18% increase in length in tissues heated and stretched.

• This effect would be especially valuable in working with ligaments, joint capsules, tendons, fasciae, and synovium that have become scarred, thickened or contracted.

• Such stretching at 45° C (113°F) caused much less weakening in stretched tissues for a given elongation than a similar elongation produces at normal tissue temperatures.

• The experiments cited clearly showed that low-force stretching can produce significant residual elongation when heat is applied together with stretching or range-of-motion exercises, which is also safer than stretching tissues at normal tissue temperatures.

• This safer stretching effect is crucial in properly training competitive athletes so as to minimize their "down" time from injuries.

 

[Bionic]

Yeah, I think that anyone selling a therapeutic heating device quotes the same study. Like I said earlier, many yoga studios utilize this method. It's really hot, though. Takes quite a bit of getting used to. I bought a lizard lamp from the pet store because it's a far infrared bulb and it was too hot for me to deal with for quite some time. I used a no-touch thermometer.

 

[Threak-X]

Bionic--The same summarized Chapter 9 from the Therapeutic Heat and Cold, 4th Edition, ED. Justus F. LeHydromaxann M.D., Williams and Wilkins, is being used at the following web-site Far-Infrared Hyperthermic Sauna Dome

It's a fascinating theory to me and would like to gain more knowledge on it's use; effects and implementing it in a P.E. routine. Warming up the collagen tissues in the ligaments and other connective tissues at a certain degree (45°C/113°F) to cause significant residual elongation while exercising a low-force stretching would seem to be worth the time and effort to invest toward the study and data documentation.

 

[Pandora]

Bionic--The same summarized Chapter 9 from the Therapeutic Heat and Cold, 4th Edition, ED. Justus F. LeHydromaxann M.D., Williams and Wilkins, is being used at the following web-site Far-Infrared Hyperthermic Sauna Dome

It's a fascinating theory to me and would like to gain more knowledge on it's use; effects and implementing it in a P.E. routine. Warming up the collagen tissues in the ligaments and other connective tissues at a certain degree (45°C/113°F) to cause significant residual elongation while exercising a low-force stretching would seem to be worth the time and effort to invest toward the study and data documentation.

Their is a lot at TP place on it, it was the in thing a couple of years ago.

 

[BtheLegend]

What kind of heating pad do you guys use? Is any heating pad from Walmart good??

 

[kushextender]

I was thinking of using a mineral plate lamp or "tdp". They talk a lot of magic about them, and I have a heat pad, and mini heater already which I dont like. I think rather than 104, I read beforehand 113, and just made it 1 degree hotter for extra benefit lol.

 

[ithiel]

How would you know it's at 104°F. Stick a thermometer in your urethra and check it's temperature? (~LOL~)

ouch. Aint a pretty sight, much less feeling....

 

[Bionic]

Bionic--The same summarized Chapter 9 from the Therapeutic Heat and Cold, 4th Edition, ED. Justus F. LeHydromaxann M.D., Williams and Wilkins, is being used at the following web-site Far-Infrared Hyperthermic Sauna Dome

It's a fascinating theory to me and would like to gain more knowledge on it's use; effects and implementing it in a P.E. routine. Warming up the collagen tissues in the ligaments and other connective tissues at a certain degree (45°C/113°F) to cause significant residual elongation while exercising a low-force stretching would seem to be worth the time and effort to invest toward the study and data documentation.

Just be VERY careful as 113 degrees is effin' HOT! Like I said, it takes a bit to get used to and don't do it under any circumstances if you're going to be trying to get someone pregnant in the near future. Also, I'm not sure that the study used one of those mineral lamps. It's far cheaper to just get a far infrared light from a pet store than to get one of those TDP lamps.

 

[Threak-X]

Bionic--I'm not ready to subject my privates to such extreme conditions. I'm researching the materials and theories behind the medical science for it's benefits and effects. It seems the Chinese have adapted the principles of bio-spectrum (waves or radiation) along with their Traditional Chinese Medicine for the last 60 years. Discovering treatments for a multitude of chronic conditions. So far an interesting read and findings toward P.E. gains for quicker and better recovery.

 

[longstretch]

Could it be dangerous to subject the sensitive skin and tissues of the penis to infrared light. Like it won't cause cancer or anything will it?

 

[Threak-X]

longstretch--No, the Far Infrared Light (radiant heat) will not cause cancer, unlike the Ultra-Violet Light. Infrared light (Energy Medicine) raises the white blood cell count that promotes the healing process increasing your immunity. Whole-body infrared therapy has been used by the Germans for the pass 60-70 years.

I'm finding this study very fascinating and has much more benefits than what I already mentioned.

 

[Bionic]

Threak is right. Our bodies emit and absorb far infrared radiant heat. It's the type of heat you get from the sun. Have you ever heard that married people live longer than singles? Well the idea is that when you sleep with someone you are not only giving off radiant heat, you are also absorbing it.
Surprisingly, Scientologists are leading the way with research regarding light energy so, I guess all of their ideas aren't wacky. I would love to be able to afford a full body sauna. I feel like it may be more beneficial to treat this as a holistic (whole body) treatment as opposed to a spot treatment. I know it works (from my research) but it was a bit uncomfortable both mentally and physically. I couldn't stop thinking that I was sterilizing myself permanently. LOL. I know this isn't true but it didn't make me feel any better.

 

[DLD]

Their is a lot at TP place on it, it was the in thing a couple of years ago.

It sure was. Someone should copy and paste some of that stuff, it was interesting.