Hello all.

I know there is much room for differing opinions, but I am curious as to the size most women feel is sufficient. Basically, I want to know how thick is too thick and how long is too long.

I believe I heard somewhere that the average vagina is about 7 inches deep.

I also know that depending on how much sex a woman has had that her vagina can accomodate almost any thickness of penis.

My gf is scared to have sex because she can't locate her vaginal opening and I think that if a penis is too large that it can tear her vagnia.

What do you all think?
 
she cant locate the opening?? tell her to have a play about....rofl
ive read that women prefer 7-8 in length an between 5-6 girth. but that alot of difference esp in girth!! sex needn't be painfull, women can generally handle more than they think they can ;). just make sure you do your job in the foreplay department ;)
 
What do you mean your gf can't find her vaginal opening?? Is she like 10 years old or something??

Every girl is different so 7" may be long for one and not enough for another... same goes for girth. There is no one answer for all women.
 
Sikdogg is right, my buddy in High School dated a girl who was a virgin but he said he could fit 4 fingers in her with ease! I also had a female friend that told me her roomate told her that her opening was so small she cried from the pain of taking very average-sized guys. While those two cases are very extreme, it illustrates the point that there really is no answer to that question. Better to be too big than too little in my opinion though:)
 
There's a chart here:

http://www.penissizedebate.com/page40_ideal-penis-size.htm

But if you think about it, that's just a diagram of what women said that the guy who screwed them said his penis was...

I mean, men would never lie about such things... Oh! Wait!:P

I mean, how many guys are there out there with 7.5 inch long 6.5 circum dicks anyway (people on this site excluded)???

How exactly did he get enough women to tell him this to fill the diagram in accurately. And the diagram seems to be all or nothing... if you're only just below average your dick apparently doesn't work at all.

It looks cool, but the more I think about it, the less I believe it.
 
Wolfkeeper, that chart is complete crap, 6.25 inches is way above average girth, and not many people have it, even those who are considered to have a 'big dick'

Alot of people think that Tommy Lee is huge, and hes around 7-7.25 x 5.5-5.75
so I am aiming for that cause he seems ideal do to all his compliments..

I also agree with you MDC, IMO anything from 7-8 inches x 5.25-6 inches is Ideal for ALL women, As I mean these are good sizes to have all around, each girl is different, some girls cant even take 6 inches length, when another girl can take all 9 inches, so everyone is different.

but with the size mentioned above you can feel confident going up against any girl IMO, but thats just me.
 
oliver said:
Wolfkeeper, that chart is complete crap, 6.25 inches is way above average girth, and not many people have it, even those who are considered to have a 'big dick'
Yeah probably. It does raise the question whether it's possible to work out what the best size would be. There must be an best sized penis on average atleast.

Presumably if you (privately!) asked lots of women whether they would prefer their partners bigger or smaller in the length or girth department, and then measured their husbands you could stick them on a chart.

Let's say the 10 inchers are mostly OTT, and the 10 inchers are too big, and if the 4 inchers are mostly too small. Somewhere in between will be a size at which half the women say is about right or as many too small as too big. That's presumably the optimum.
 
Well than that brings us back to the average size penis..

http://www.askmen.com/love/vanessa_60/87_love_secrets.html

were 82% of women say average satisfies them, average being 6 inches..


The truth is with all the junk and hype floating around the porno business, internet, and what not, theres no way to exactly pinpoint which size would be "Ideal".

I doubt theres one all dick that pleases all, so ideal falls into what you want in the end, hpmmh

Ideal is something that im confident in.
 
IMO there really is no way to tell short of surveying maybe 50,000 women and maybe 10,000 Men.

From what i can tell women vary in size based on Age, Race, Body type all the way to sexual habits.

But if I had to I would say that almost any women could take a 5 1/2 to 6 x 4 or 5 give or take and be happy any smaller and a conflict could arise and the same with any bigger IMO.
 
Yes, but is satisfies the same as ideal? I mean mens heights might well average 6ft, but ideal might be 6ft 3 or something. Their partners might say that their height is perfectly fine; but they would prefer them taller.

Here we're talking about the average ideal size, not the average size.
 
No my point is the Ideal size is average, if 82% of women can be satisfied by a 6 incher, that makes it ideal? (there are many surveys out there, its hard to believe any when the next one says something different)

when you speak about ideal you talk about which size is preferred most, well average is because average can satisfy most women.
 
oliver said:
But than again, how can we know for sure when women cant measure a dick, right?
Yeah, which was why I suggested that the women say whether they would like it bigger or smaller than they currently have. They've had previous boyfriends, so they'd know whether it makes any difference.
 
Just work on building the dick you'll be satisfied with. Too often, women come and go. Don't focus on anyone's satisfaction but your own, when it comes to Penis Enlargement goals.
 
penguinsfan said:
Just work on building the dick you'll be satisfied with. Too often, women come and go. Don't focus on anyone's satisfaction but your own, when it comes to Penis Enlargement goals.


very very true!
 
oliver said:
No my point is the Ideal size is average, if 82% of women can be satisfied by a 6 incher, that makes it ideal? (there are many surveys out there, its hard to believe any when the next one says something different)

when you speak about ideal you talk about which size is preferred most, well average is because average can satisfy most women.

Yes but the majority of men are roughly 6 inches so chances are most women will never have sex with an above average size dick.

If average penis size was 7 inches and you asked these same women again they would say 7 inches was the ideal size to satisfy them.

When i first started pe i was 6 inches and my wife said i didn't need to make it bigger we had good sex then,now i'm over 7 inches and the sex is much better for both of us.
 
I think we're forgetting an important aspect to sex, here. When guy has a big dick, and he shows his girlfriend in the right way, at the right time, she will be greatly impressed, and will want to play with it. It becomes her toy, too. By impressing her, she will want to have it more often.

Then if he can just convince her that it's a "magic wand" that is able to please her in all positions, time after time, for as long as she wants it, as deep or as shallow as she could ever want it, touching all the right spots, then she's just as hooked on a big dick as he is, and at the same time she also knows that the likelihood of her ever finding another one like that is slim, and none.

So the trick is to make your big cock a feature. Let her play with it, let her know that all that is hers for the asking, and she will put two and two together, herself. But if her first experience with it is to get it shoved into her pussy very unceremoniously, without an introduction, she may or may not care much for it, after that. It's all in the presentation.

With women, perception is 90% of the battle. It isn't what really IS. It's all what it appears to be! That's what counts. And if she likes your cock right up front, from the first, then you're "in like Flynn," so to speak.
 
The fact is that most women don't know what size is ideal nor do they know what size they would like... I've been a swinger for some time now and have discucssed the whole penis size thing with alot of women/couples and they just don't know. As long as the guy can satisfy her, in most cases she's fine regardless of his size... There are some women who like anal so they specifically prefer a thinner dick, but from what i've gathered... almost all prefer thickness over length.
 
Formysweetie said:
I think we're forgetting an important aspect to sex, here. When guy has a big dick, and he shows his girlfriend in the right way, at the right time, she will be greatly impressed, and will want to play with it. It becomes her toy, too. By impressing her, she will want to have it more often.

Then if he can just convince her that it's a "magic wand" that is able to please her in all positions, time after time, for as long as she wants it, as deep or as shallow as she could ever want it, touching all the right spots, then she's just as hooked on a big dick as he is, and at the same time she also knows that the likelihood of her ever finding another one like that is slim, and none.

So the trick is to make your big cock a feature. Let her play with it, let her know that all that is hers for the asking, and she will put two and two together, herself. But if her first experience with it is to get it shoved into her pussy very unceremoniously, without an introduction, she may or may not care much for it, after that. It's all in the presentation.

With women, perception is 90% of the battle. It isn't what really IS. It's all what it appears to be! That's what counts. And if she likes your cock right up front, from the first, then you're "in like Flynn," so to speak.[/QUOTE



I couldn't have said it better!!! :P
 
sikdogg said:
As long as the guy can satisfy her, in most cases she's fine regardless of his size...
Oh ok. That's easy then. :P
There are some women who like anal so they specifically prefer a thinner dick, but from what i've gathered... almost all prefer thickness over length.
Somebody needs to give a whole bunch of different length/width dildoes to a bunch of women and draw graphs. That's the easy way to do it.
 
wolfkeeper said:
Somebody needs to give a whole bunch of different length/width dildoes to a bunch of women and draw graphs. That's the easy way to do it.

The problem with dildos is that they don't feel like penises to women. A 5.5" girth dildo might feel the same as a 6" girth penis due to the hardness.

I volunteer to be one of the test models for the women to try out!
 
Whenever women have a dick in them, there's one thing they feel and it ain't length or girth. It's volume, which is a combination of both at the same time. This has been discussed many times before and its importance can never be stressed enough in terms of satisfying the ladies. In another similar thread, I said how I thought the ideal volume was between 21 and 27 cubic inches, with 21-25 ci as the best for every woman out there, since there are a lot of very small, tight pussies which wouldn't be able to handle even 25 ci, let alone a monstrous 27 ci.

21 cubic inches translates into these very large sizes:
  • 8 3/4" BP by 5 1/2" EG
  • 8" BP by 5 3/4" EG
  • 7 3/8 by 6" EG
  • 6 3/4" BP by 6 1/4" EG.
25 cubic inches translates into these huge sizes:

  • 8 3/4" BP by 6" EG
  • 8" BP by 6 1/4" EG
  • 7 1/2 by 6 1/2" EG
27 cubic inches translates into these monstrous sizes:

  • 8 3/4" BP by 6 1/4" EG
  • 8" BP by 6 1/2" EG
  • 7 1/2 by 6 3/4" EG
Any of the first two groups would satisfy most women, provided that there was a lot of foreplay and good lubing going on before any actual penetration. Very few size queens would be anything less than thrilled, either. The second group's sizes are probably the most ideal out of all of these listings. A good portion of the female population wouldn't be able to handle the last group. Those that could would need a ton of lube to even get started. Just ask some guys here who are in the last category.

Got it, guys? Good! ;):cool:
 
oliver said:
Alot of people think that Tommy Lee is huge, and hes around 7-7.25 x 5.5-5.75
so I am aiming for that cause he seems ideal do to all his compliments..

Well, I'm right at 7 NBP x 5.5, I know that Tommy's has to be bigger than mine because of the way it sticks out of his shorts in that one video where he's driving. I'd say he's at least 7.5 maybe close to 8 x 5.75 or more. And he has a big glans and pretty even girth, which makes it look bigger. I'm a firm believer that girth makes much more difference than length. Additionally, for most women the bigger the girth the less length a woman can take. I know some women have deep and/or loose vaginas, but I believe that for the average woman 8 x 6 can be too much. Not that it can't be enjoyable with good technique, but they couldn't take it slamming all the way in.

Look at Ramone from Monsters of Cock, he's about 8 x 6 and I've seen very few of the women who could take him slamming them hard. I'm sure that they aren't professional adult entertainment actresses, I suspect some could be escorts etc. Obviously they took the gig knowing they were going to fuck a guy with a big dick. IMHO, if you can get 6" of girth, even 6" NBP length will be plenty for the average woman. 6 - 7 length and 6 girth would be closest to perfect. 8 is huge, I guess it's an ego thing to know that you have more than they can take but I want to be able to slam it hard without causing pain.

Now I have also seen some amateur adult entertainment where some small women took all of a huge dick. I have heard too that some seem to have a more elastic vagina, they can get stretched by a big cock and "snap" back tight.

wesb
 
oliver said:
Alot of people think that Tommy Lee is huge, and hes around 7-7.25 x 5.5-5.75
so I am aiming for that cause he seems ideal do to all his compliments..

Well, I'm right at 7 NBP x 5.5, I know that Tommy's has to be bigger than mine because of the way it sticks out of his shorts in that one video where he's driving. I'd say he's at least 7.5 maybe close to 8 x 5.75 or more. And he has a big glans and pretty even girth, which makes it look bigger. I'm a firm believer that girth makes much more difference than length. Additionally, for most women the bigger the girth the less length a woman can take. I know some women have deep and/or loose vaginas, but I believe that for the average woman 8 x 6 can be too much. Not that it can't be enjoyable with good technique, but they couldn't take it slamming all the way in.

Look at Ramone from Monsters of Cock, he's about 8 x 6 and I've seen very few of the women who could take him slamming them hard. I'm sure that they aren't professional adult entertainment actresses, I suspect some could be escorts etc. Obviously they took the gig knowing they were going to fuck a guy with a big dick. IMHO, if you can get 6" of girth, even 6" NBP length will be plenty for the average woman. 6 - 7 length and 6 girth would be closest to perfect. 8 is huge, I guess it's an ego thing to know that you have more than they can take but I want to be able to slam it hard without causing pain.

Now I have also seen some amateur adult entertainment where some small women took all of a huge dick. I have heard too that some seem to have a more elastic vagina, they can get stretched by a big cock and "snap" back tight.

wesb
 
In my experiences this is what I've found. It's all about girth. That is what all the girls I have ever talked to say. I'm only 6.5 length and 4.5 girth and all the girls I've been with have been satisfied. So I'm not sure length is to important. That is why girth is my main focus.
 
penguinsfan said:
Just work on building the dick you'll be satisfied with. Too often, women come and go. Don't focus on anyone's satisfaction but your own, when it comes to Penis Enlargement goals.

I like that statement. :D
 
I'll add my little testimonial about girth. Most women I've been with prefer large girth to miles of length. Part of the reason for this is "cervix boxing," as some women like to call it. One old gf would only let me go in about 2/3 of the way in. "What do you think you're hittin', a kidney?" Another one said it felt like I was punching her in the stomach. SHE had a lot of experience. We were having the "How many partners" discussion, and her answer was, "Well, I'm pretty sure it's under a hundred. About 75 or 80." She had also had 3 kids(no C-sections), and she said that my 6.5" of girth was a lot for her. She said she had seen one longer, though much skinnier, dick than mine. Another slut(I seemed to attract them back then) told me I was the biggest and the best. At that time, her count was about 30 guys or so.
My technique also plays a part, because let's face it, a selfish 2-pump chump gets the same results whether 5 inches or 8 inches. Most girls have told me I spend at least twice as long, usually more, on foreplay as anyone they had been with. It helps that I love to eat pussyrofl . In the end I think decent girth and good technique win the night.
 
Oh yeah, the first third or so of a woman's vagina is the most sensetive, anyway, so as long as you can get that going you should be good. I also thought Tommy Lee was bigger than that. It looks like he's long as hell.
 
From a size queen who refuses to go out with smaller guys and only looks for larger guys on AFF and ALT

8x5.5 feels damn good

9-10X6/6.5 IS Penis EnlargementRFECT

this is from a hardcore size queen rofl

she said nemore girth is not fun and length too

fvck that I still wanna reach 13X 9 or 8 lol
 
DWTS00 said:
From a size queen who refuses to go out with smaller guys and only looks for larger guys on AFF and ALT

8x5.5 feels damn good

9-10X6/6.5 IS Penis EnlargementRFECT

this is from a hardcore size queen rofl

she said nemore girth is not fun and length too

fvck that I still wanna reach 13X 9 or 8 lol


That's complete and utter bullshit. The number of men who have a 9-10 inch long penis and 6.5 inch girth is phenomenally low. I don't care if she is a huge size queen or not.
 
Hugh G said:
That's complete and utter bullshit. The number of men who have a 9-10 inch long penis and 6.5 inch girth is phenomenally low. I don't care if she is a huge size queen or not.

I dont care if theyre rare or not lol

thats wut she likes
 
She cant find her hole...wow...hey ill tell you what give me her number and ill be sure when you get her back shell have a hole. j/k wow she must be tight.
 
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