Retraction after a good stretch work out?

I have been moderately stretching and jelqing. But yesterday and Saturday I did some very intense jelqs and yesterday some intense stretching, 3 separate times at about 45 minutes each.

During sleep last night and upon waking this morning I did not get my usual "wood".

My penis has felt a bit retracted and tight today. Has this happened to anyone else? Yesterday morning and most of the day, my penis felt more elastic and hung better.

I think I am taking a couple days rest.

comments?
 
Take a couple of days off if you feel you need to. You could just scale back the intensity a little bit. Just take your time, and assess the situation and do what's best for you. I took some time off, and it was the best thing in the world for me and my best friend....LOL....no really just do what you have to, but keep gaining. HOLLA
 
I think the shrinking effect is somewhat common. Just rest until you notice that you are hanging low again. That is what I do. Usually takes a day or two to get plumped back up again when it happens.
 
Man this happens to me, after a good workout I will initially be either longer or more pumped, but eventually I will shrink up like I've been damaged. I think its part of the breaking down the tissues and letting them heal cycle. Happens to all Penis Enlargementers and is actually a good thing.
 
I am so glad this is being brought up. The past few days I have had this post-workout shrinkage and it was driving me crazy. I am taking a break today since I have had crazy lig soreness for a while.

Best regards~AcesHigh
 
I took Monday off, and today much better. Its hanging more and I awoke to my usual "morning wood" + a lot of unexpected wood during work - back to normal. I am going to do one more day and then jump back in to a good stretch and jelqing session. I think one more day will be good - no sense in getting back in too quickly.
 
I have been at it for two days, and this is what I notice:

After stretching, at first, I am much better off than when I started. But then I shrink way up, which I've been told is called "turtling." This happened to me before I started Penis Enlargement, but I never knew when it would happen. Now it happens everyday about fifteen minutes after my stretch.

After jelqing, however, I'm fine. In fact, I normally feel good and look much better than when I started without any turtling at all. So the turtling just happens after the stretch. Now I'm getting one of those stretchers by Vimax, so I'm hoping that will help. But I am wondering why something that's supposed to make me longer (the stretching) makes me shrink up.
 
Shrinkage happens! I like to look at it this way, If you pull and stretch on your penis it kind of deserves to retreat in fear for a little while.:D It will come back out and the gains you make will be relative to the shrinkage you may experience. Penis Enlargement is not a gentle application to the penis, it is aggressive and it will cause some retraction, even resistance, the point is it works. Try not to look too much at the initial events, keep your eye on the future expectancies.

I remember when I was first starting Penis Enlargement, one night, after stretching my penis shrunk up...it became thin and hard. I was scared out of my mind and I thought I fucked something up big time. Years later, I realize it was only part of the process.
 
::breathes sigh of relief::: Good I needed to read this,after a 45 minute stretching session my dick looks thinner and i slightly shorter than normal. Good to know that this is normal,so i wont be worrying about any post work out shinkage. All is well.
 
some times after a week of strait duel stretching sessions the head of my penis shrinkss a little and my dick feels rubbery and i just realized the head of my penis feels like its numb is all this normal and will the numbness fade away.
 
Shrinkage happens! I like to look at it this way, If you pull and stretch on your penis it kind of deserves to retreat in fear for a little while.LOL It will come back out and the gains you make will be relative to the shrinkage you may experience. Penis Enlargement is not a gentle application to the penis, it is aggressive and it will cause some retraction, even resistance, the point is it works. Try not to look too much at the initial events, keep your eye on the future expectancies.

I remember when I was first starting Penis Enlargement, one night, after stretching my penis shrunk up...it became thin and hard. I was scared out of my mind and I thought I fucked something up big time. Years later, I realize it was only part of the process.
Hey DLD I know this is an old thread but this is happening to me too , I started hanging like a month ago but on a low weight more time ratio but felt like my flaccid is shorter which I believe is called retraction? Should I take a break?
 
Hey DLD I know this is an old thread but this is happening to me too , I started hanging like a month ago but on a low weight more time ratio but felt like my flaccid is shorter which I believe is called retraction? Should I take a break?
Okay I'm not DLD.

I can answer if you want my answer.
Retraction can be a sign of overworking the tissue. You usually see this when the relaxed flaccid hang is not as low as it used to be, after like 1 day of not doing any penis enlargement. Start by taking 3 days rest, and see if you can get back the regular flaccid hang.

You can take rest to recover. MOS RED also helps. But during rest keep your penis elongated with: Penis Elongation Wrap or a sleeve.

When I myself had these rests I was longer at the end of that rest. Depending of what you are doing you may need more or less rest then 3 days. It's important to not stress about it when you decide to take some rest.

Hope this helps.
 
Okay I'm not DLD.

I can answer if you want my answer.
Retraction can be a sign of overworking the tissue. You usually see this when the relaxed flaccid hang is not as low as it used to be, after like 1 day of not doing any penis enlargement. Start by taking 3 days rest, and see if you can get back the regular flaccid hang.

You can take rest to recover. MOS RED also helps. But during rest keep your penis elongated with: Penis Elongation Wrap or a sleeve.

When I myself had these rests I was longer at the end of that rest. Depending of what you are doing you may need more or less rest then 3 days. It's important to not stress about it when you decide to take some rest.

Hope this helps.
I endorse
 
itshopeandlove,

but felt like my flaccid is shorter which I believe is called retraction? Should I take a break?

I would be worried if your tunica did NOT retract somewhat after doing length work. The fact that it is doing that means you are on the right track. It means that you have successfully created micro damage in the tunica, which is precisely what you want if you are serious about gaining length. Great job!

Retraction will keep happening throughout your PE career, especially after an intense workout where you have created a good deal of micro damage. Retraction, swelling, whatever you want to call it, is the body's natural defense mechanism, so do not be afraid of it, or think that it will hinder gains. Quite the opposite.

When you hang the next day, all of those fibers in the tunica that underwent deformation will be the first ones in line to be challenged, or "pulled out." That is why the tissues can be very sore the next day, especially after an intense workout the previous day. But then, as you keep stretching, they eventually give in and the stretch becomes comfortable again. As you keep doing this over and over, you will get longer.

So do not fear retraction. It is your body's natural response and is a GOOD thing. The most important thing to remember in PE is to remain consistent. If you take days off and allow your tissues to fully heal after a good workout, then you might as well stop doing PE altogether. There is absolutely nothing more counterproductive in the realm of PE than allowing your tissues to fully heal. You need to attack the target tissues every day, to reopen the fibers from previous work, and then proceed to deform more tissue from there. That is the only way to do this correctly.
 
What programming? Do you mean going hard one day followed by three days of doing nothing?
With programming I'm referring to how you structure everything, that is: Every detail of your program, from stretching techniques, how many bundles, intensity (stretching force), length of stretch (time) and more...

I did 3 days on 1 day off with LengthMaster 3 with full SRT healing, and I gained a lot of length, so post #15 you wrote are very true, according to my personal experience.
 
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With programming I'm referring to how you structure everything, that is: Every detail of your program, from stretching techniques, how many bundles, intensity (stretching force), length of stretch (time) and more...

I did 3 days on 1 day off with LengthMaster 3 with full SRT healing, and I gained a lot of length, so post #15 you wrote are very true, according to my personal experience.
I have reached my length goals and currently cementing them. I am now focused on girth.

Measuring a slight gain in BPFSL has happened to me before after taking a couple of days off, but that is because the swelling had subsided, allowing for a greater flaccid stretch due to the stretching work I had been doing. This can happen on occasion, especially if you break through a plateau, but I wouldn't bank on it being a reliable, long term strategy. You obviously have a different experience.

I have always done what the big gainers such as DLD have done, which is to do PE every single day and work through the discomfort. Pull out the adhesions, and create more adhesions over time with a solid routine. No days off. DLD has gained the most out of everyone doing it this way, and following this strategy has worked out for me as well.

I don't know how 1 day on, 3 days off would work theoretically speaking, since you are taking more time off than you are working. I do not see how you can make consistent gains doing it this way, but I certainly cannot argue with your results. If this strategy is bringing you gains consistently, consider yourself extremely lucky.

I am sure it would not have worked for me, because I used to toy around with PE in the beginning with an on and off schedule, and got absolutely nowhere.

Congrats on your success.
 
I have reached my length goals and currently cementing them. I am now focused on girth.

Measuring a slight gain in BPFSL has happened to me before after taking a couple of days off, but that is because the swelling had subsided, allowing for a greater flaccid stretch due to the stretching work I had been doing. This can happen on occasion, especially if you break through a plateau, but I wouldn't bank on it being a reliable, long term strategy. You obviously have a different experience.

I have always done what the big gainers such as DLD have done, which is to do PE every single day and work through the discomfort. Pull out the adhesions, and create more adhesions over time with a solid routine. No days off. DLD has gained the most out of everyone doing it this way, and following this strategy has worked out for me as well.

I don't know how 1 day on, 3 days off would work theoretically speaking, since you are taking more time off than you are working. I do not see how you can make consistent gains doing it this way, but I certainly cannot argue with your results. If this strategy is bringing you gains consistently, consider yourself extremely lucky.

I am sure it would not have worked for me, because I used to toy around with PE in the beginning with an on and off schedule, and got absolutely nowhere.

Congrats on your success.
You are not reading what I'm writing.
When did I even wrote: 1 day on, 3 days off?
 
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itshopeandlove,

but felt like my flaccid is shorter which I believe is called retraction? Should I take a break?

I would be worried if your tunica did NOT retract somewhat after doing length work. The fact that it is doing that means you are on the right track. It means that you have successfully created micro damage in the tunica, which is precisely what you want if you are serious about gaining length. Great job!

Retraction will keep happening throughout your PE career, especially after an intense workout where you have created a good deal of micro damage. Retraction, swelling, whatever you want to call it, is the body's natural defense mechanism, so do not be afraid of it, or think that it will hinder gains. Quite the opposite.

When you hang the next day, all of those fibers in the tunica that underwent deformation will be the first ones in line to be challenged, or "pulled out." That is why the tissues can be very sore the next day, especially after an intense workout the previous day. But then, as you keep stretching, they eventually give in and the stretch becomes comfortable again. As you keep doing this over and over, you will get longer.

So do not fear retraction. It is your body's natural response and is a GOOD thing. The most important thing to remember in PE is to remain consistent. If you take days off and allow your tissues to fully heal after a good workout, then you might as well stop doing PE altogether. There is absolutely nothing more counterproductive in the realm of PE than allowing your tissues to fully heal. You need to attack the target tissues every day, to reopen the fibers from previous work, and then proceed to deform more tissue from there. That is the only way to do this correctly.
Thanks grandmaster , you seem to have the same analogy as BIBs ( bigger) and I fully believe in it too.

may I ask what we’re your gains from hanging?
 
Thanks grandmaster , you seem to have the same analogy as BIBs ( bigger) and I fully believe in it too.

may I ask what we’re your gains from hanging?
Not much from hanging. Around half an inch or so. I got most of my gains through manuals and using an extender.

I don't know what you mean by Bib's analogies. I learned how to use his hanger from him, but apart from that I haven't been to his forum in over a decade.
 
I also used my own homemade hanger that I gained with. I don't remember how much I gained with hanging overall, but I did gain a total of 2.5".

How about you? How much have you gained so far and how long have you been doing PE?
 
I also used my own homemade hanger that I gained with. I don't remember how much I gained with hanging overall, but I did gain a total of 2.5".

How about you? How much have you gained so far and how long have you been doing PE?
I started on December 4 2023 and gained 0.8 inches in length which I believe is considered a fast gainer and haven’t bothered to measure the girth cause I will focus on that later.
 
What was your routine if you mind me asking? Your tips for a newbie like me etc
Oh man... I had many different routines over the years; from manuals, to hanging, to using an extender. Do you mean specifically for hanging?

If you mean for hanging, I started out with BTC and made some gains from it. This was all after I had hit a plateau doing manuals and was looking for something more intense. Anyway, after a while I had also hit a plateau with hanging, and wasn't measuring gains hanging BTC for a few months, so I got fed up and threw in the towel. I remember Bib kept pushing the narrative that I had to continue hanging BTC, even though I wasn't gaining from it anymore... something to do with his LOT theory. It took me a while to break out of that programming and go my own way.

I have learned many things about PE, from many Guru's, including DLD, but ultimately, in the end, you will realize that you need to become your own Guru and find out what works for you through experimentation. The Guru's are a step in the right direction, especially if they have proven credibility, because you will gain a lot of knowledge from them as a newbie. However, what worked for them might not necessarily work work you. It is best to look to them as a guide; you can adopt some of what they teach if it works for you, and modify or even completely neglect other things if they are not helping or have adverse effects.

In my case, after a certain point I knew I was wasting my time hanging BTC, so changed strategy and decided to focus mainly on tunica work. Hanging at the BTC angle does stress the tunica, obviously, but it is nowhere near as effective compared to SO and OTS. I remember I was having issues hanging SO with the BIB, so I actually built my own hanger made from PVC pipe that proved to be much more comfortable at that angle -- and even though I was restricted in the amount of weight I could hang, it wasn't a problem at all because the fatigue at lower weights was extremely intense at that angle, especially after hanging multiple sets. I gained some (I do not have exact numbers because it was a long time ago) and eventually gave that up and switched to extending + manuals where I gained the rest. I used an extender as the main tool, and also used DLD blasters, rotary cranks, and basic stretching at the upper angles (5-10 minute sessions several times a day) to pull out the adhesions I had created using the extender. This worked well for delaying the healing process, instead of keeping it extended all day long, which is almost impossible to do if we're being honest with ourselves.

All of these methods worked: manuals, hanging, and extending. I realized gains from all of them. The best tip I can give you is to be consistent with your routine, whatever you decide to do. The main reason for my success using all three of these methods was not that one was necessarily better than the other... it was that I did what I had to do every single day, hitting those target tissues, breaking them down. No days off! At times, I had to work through some discomfort, but that is part of the game. I do not support taking days off, because that is what worked FOR ME. When I would take days off and mess around, there were no gains to measure when the time came. I had to learn the hard way, through countless failures.

Anyway, I have some good experience with hanging, so if you have any questions or need any tips I would be happy to help. I know I went off on a rant.

Good luck in your journey.
 
itshopeandlove,

but felt like my flaccid is shorter which I believe is called retraction? Should I take a break?

I would be worried if your tunica did NOT retract somewhat after doing length work. The fact that it is doing that means you are on the right track. It means that you have successfully created micro damage in the tunica, which is precisely what you want if you are serious about gaining length. Great job!💯agree!

Retraction will keep happening throughout your PE career, especially after an intense workout where you have created a good deal of micro damage. Retraction, swelling, whatever you want to call it, is the body's natural defense mechanism, so do not be afraid of it, or think that it will hinder gains. Quite the opposite.

When you hang the next day, all of those fibers in the tunica that underwent deformation will be the first ones in line to be challenged, or "pulled out." That is why the tissues can be very sore the next day, especially after an intense workout the previous day. But then, as you keep stretching, they eventually give in and the stretch becomes comfortable again. As you keep doing this over and over, you will get longer.

So do not fear retraction. It is your body's natural response and is a GOOD thing. The most important thing to remember in PE is to remain consistent. If you take days off and allow your tissues to fully heal after a good workout, then you might as well stop doing PE altogether. There is absolutely nothing more counterproductive in the realm of PE than allowing your tissues to fully heal. You need to attack the target tissues every day, to reopen the fibers from previous work, and then proceed to deform more tissue from there. That is the only way to do this correctly.
 
Not much from hanging. Around half an inch or so. I got most of my gains through manuals and using an extender.

I don't know what you mean by Bib's analogies. I learned how to use his hanger from him, but apart from that I haven't been to his forum in over a decade.

I gained about the same, but after that I no longer was able to hang to make growt..but the best possible hanger you can buy is the length master.
 
Try both of them combined and see what your gains are r
 
Hey guys when you’re talking about retraction , do you mean BPFSL size smaller or only when the penis is hanging?

This thread is referring to the retraction that happens when the penis is not wrapped to stay elongated after a length session. You want to wrap the penis to enable it heal in an elongated state. You want to do both active PE and passive PE.
 
When stretching hard you will see retraction sometimes after session. Run your MOSRED for 15 minutes, and then put on a pel.wrap (Penis Elongation Wrap) or ADS (All Day Stretcher = low tension) and you're good.
 
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