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Whatsup guys!! I come to ask some advice. Look, I bought a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] but I can`t use it in public - it shows in the pants. Also it is too uncomfortable. And I just cant stay locked in my room wearing the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] for more than 1 hour. I need an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] that I could wear it for 6+ hours a day with minimal or no discomfort and not showing too much in my pants. I thought about the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], but I guess you guys know more than me.

Which one do you recommend? (with the exception of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and alikes, obviously)

are there others similar to the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]?

Dorsay
 
Mine can be worn in public (male edge) and it's pretty much like the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. Baggy pants are a must and it still shows a little, when I walk. However, I've been thinking that I might rig some special underwear that have velcro on the inside (I may have to wrap the head more to protect it) so I can position it and not have it work it's way out into view. So I'm still tinkering with how to wear this in public.

On a more interesting note, got a look from a pretty girl today who spotted it. It was a "wow, he's packing" look. So it's confirmed, women look too, not just men.
 
It's difficult no matter what device it is. If not for concealment problems, there are others such as irritation, pain, falling off, losing tension, and just plain old pain-in-the-ass syndrome. Often when these devices go awry it's without warning.
 
try [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] but i think that [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] it's better...i know what you want but ....try [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]
 
Well I actually wear mines around house and I wear basketball type shorts and you cant see anything although there was a time were you could and what I did was pull the back part of my basketball shorts down and pull the front part up just a tad tad bit what this did was gave it a little more room in the front or you could do it vice versa when wearing something this thin and as far as being uncomfy wrap something soft on the base of your penis where the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] touches and that should take away some discomfort try a sock cut up to fit or shape
 
Okay, I`ll try to use my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. But here are my problems:

I have to stretch A LOT to make it fit the bars. I really mean A LOT - to a point where my head slips a bit and it hurts. Maybe there are too much bars, but if I put less bars I`ll not feel a good stretch.

Questions:

1. Would using less bars still be effective? Since the purpose is to keep my penis comfortably stretched out to encourage any tears to heal in stretched position?
2. To wear in public means wearing it pointing down right? unless you have a 2 inch penis.
3. How long should one use per day and after how much time you have to take it off to restore circulation?
 
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Dorsay;429798 said:
Okay, I`ll try to use my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. But here are my problems:

I have to stretch A LOT to make it fit the bars. I really mean A LOT - to a point where my head slips a bit and it hurts. Maybe there are too much bars, but if I put less bars I`ll not feel a good stretch.

Questions:

1. Would using less bars still be effective? Since the purpose is to keep my penis comfortably stretched out to encourage any tears to heal in stretched position?
2. To wear in public means wearing it pointing down right? unless you have a 2 inch penis.
3. How long should one use per day and after how much time you have to take it off to restore circulation?
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1/ For me (I use male edge) this is pretty simple, as the different lengths are different by less than a centimeter, I always get a good stretch and can adjust it in less than 10 seconds. Can't help you with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].
2/ Yes, pointing straight down, up would require a trench coat or a very long coat to hide the bulge-much more difficult, and not as good a stretch anyway.
3/ I try to go between 4-6 hours per day in 2 hour sessions. If everything is done right, I have little discomfort. Then I rest it for 20-30 minutes before putting it on again. 6 hours or more is optimal I think.

Also-head shouldn't slip if you're doing the velcro mod and the wrap right, and make sure you get some head swell, that helps with slipping.
 
Doc, so you stay 2 hours without taking it off? DLD says to take if off every hour or so to restore circulation...
 
Dorsay;429802 said:
Doc, so you stay 2 hours without taking it off? DLD says to take if off every hour or so to restore circulation...
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Yes, I don't take it off. If everything is done right... I think you could wear it for 4 or more straight. I've worn it for 3 hours before. I stopped at 3 not due to circulation issues, just due to discomfort. And realize, I stretch it quite a bit. The tension is close to max (2800g) for at least half of it. As another bencHydromaxark, I stretch it up to an 1.5" past my NBPenis EnlargementL, so while I'm at 6.5", I stretch as far as 8", but usually closer to 7.5" (so an inch past my erect length).

If you are having discomfort I would ask if you are circumcised, as I am. And I hear that intact males (uncircumcised) have more trouble with slippage, etc. So if you are cut, you're doing something wrong with the wrap or the strap or both. Maybe tell us how you wrap and strap it and we can help.
 
Dorsay,

Try making some slack by pulling on the skin around the shaft before you mount onto the bars. Helped a lot with some pre-mount slipping.
 
Doc, I feel that it is too much work and discomfort to set up the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] everytime I go to use it. To add bars I have to take it out and do all the work again and again. I`m thinking about buying the Male Edge since it is way more practical. I know DLD doesn`t support this because of the deal between [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], and I can understand that. Tell me what you think bud.
 
Dorsay;429816 said:
Doc, I feel that it is too much work and discomfort to set up the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] everytime I go to use it. To add bars I have to take it out and do all the work again and again. I`m thinking about buying the Male Edge since it is way more practical. I know DLD doesn`t support this because of the deal between [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], and I can understand that. Tell me what you think bud.
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I like it for the reason you stated, it's clearly way easier to use (as far as attaching, increasing/decreasing tension-it's a snap, very easy) but it's likely more fragile than [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] due to it's plastic. There is a weak point between the hinge and the "inner tube" where you have to be careful as it gets pressure there when you attach it carelessly. However, mine broke at the 2 month mark, well it was starting to break, I called and got a replacement sent 3 days before it finally broke-so the service seems excellent-no questions, they sent a replacement. So now I'm coming up on 3 or 4 weeks with the new base piece and have had no problems. I've been more careful.

The issue is the tension-once you get to the high tension, 2000g or above there's much more pressure involved. Not just on your penis, but also on the device of course.
For wearing it under clothes, I think it is less secure than [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. Due to movement, it can tend to come loose (due to how it holds together). So what I do now is once I'm at max tension if I want to wear it under clothes, I add a small piece of electric tape so it cannot slip, it works.

Frankly I doubt any of these devices is "perfect", if I had a lab, I could make the perfect one and it would be a mix between [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] and male edge. But there's NO question in my mind the way you add tension, put it on, etc. is superior with male edge-so it's worth the added cost of just being a bit more careful with the device than maybe you have to be with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. All those rods, not to mention the cold discomfort of the metal seems like a big hassle to me. I'd like Male Edge to change the hinge area to metal or something stronger as this is the true weakness of the device-but having foreknowledge of that weakness (like you now do) would make all the difference, or a lot of difference as I had to learn the hard way where and why it was weak.

I think the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] looks like a big hassle to use, and certainly to adjust, with either screwing the unit out or in, or having to completely remove it to add bars, etc. With male edge, I slide it forward one notch, or two notches til I'm satisfied with the tension. Several minutes vs. a few seconds-I like that a lot. Also, Male Edge has an indicator that tells you your tension, with a glance you know if you're at 800g, 1200g, 2000g, 2800g where with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words].... I've seen these explanations and I can't even follow them "I'm using two long rods, 3 medium rods, 1 short rod"... what the fuck does that mean?? lol.

So overall I recommend it, it's a better design functionally, but less sturdy. The latter issue is okay with me since they'll replace a broken part so quickly (took 3 days to get it from when I called) with no hassles, no holding on the phone, no bullshit.

On comfort-with the velcro mod for the head strap, and wrapping the base with gauze so it doesn't pinch your skin at the base (same with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] I assume as far as this fix), I really have no complaints. The only problem I have that I'm still working on is visibility-wearing it in public so I'm not stuck doing 4 hours at night when I'm trying to relax. That's my only problem and it's not with [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or Male Edge, it's an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] issue in general. I'm working on solutions there. Anyway, let me know if you've any follow up questions, I'm happy to help.
 
One more thing-if you DO buy a Male Edge, get the cheapest model. The upgrades have nothing to do with the device. They include a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/mosdvd.htm]dvd[/words], extra straps, etc. All those things are worthless. The directions in the booklet are clearer than those in the video anyway-and I can help you with any questions you have for using it as well. The straps, be it 2 or 4 are all worthless, they break too easy-this is a pain in the ass once you get to 2000g or higher with these plastic straps-they simply don't hold the head well. The velcro mod does it perfectly. You have to change out the strap maybe 1/week and replace the sticky velcro on the head piece 1/week likely as well. But spend $10-$20 on a roll of velcro and some velcro tape instead of on worthless Male Edge upgrades. The upgrades are worthless, and all 3 versions of the kits all come with the same [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. The only difference I know of it the color of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], not really worth another $20 or $30 or whatever it is to have a red one vs a yellow one IMO. So get their most basic unit, not the "pro version" or whatever, the upgrades are crap.
 
Also, I am currently testing out a mod to address the weakness at the hinge-we'll see how it goes. I bought these a while ago to try to address this problem and never got around to trying it out.
I bought 2 small hose clamps to place between the the clear plastic and inner tube to add strength. I've just attached them and so far everything looks okay. Looks like a dangerous mod (to the device) as if you overtighten, it would crush the tube or likely both pieces. I was careful and never heard a crack. Then wrapped both clamps with electrical tape to protect the penis from the sharp edge. (once you cinch down the clamps, you have to cut off the excess piece of the clamp and that leaves a sharp edge). Haven't worn it yet, but I'll test it for a couple weeks and follow up if it is a good mod. Probably should have tried it on my broken base piece instead of my good one, but too late now :)

If this mod works then I would say all the problems with Male Edge are solved. Then the only remaining problem would be the general [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] problem of how to wear it in public without your dickhead sticking out, bulging in your pants. I'll keep working on that and try to come up with a solution.

So there are a lot of mods to make this (and any [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] work really well):
1/ Velcro mod-changing from a noose or strap to a piece of 2 sided velcro, and thus putting sticky velcro on each side of the head piece to attach the 2 sided velcro strap to.
2/ Wrapping the base with mole skin and/or gauze (I do both presently) to keep it from pinching your scrotum.
3/ (Male Edge only) Putting clamps right between the clear plastic and inner tube to give strength to the weakest area, and then wrap those clamps with electric tape to avoid injury.
4/ Unknown mod to allow one to wear it under (likely somewhat baggy) clothes-TBD.

Below you can see mods 1,2,3 on the Male Edge device.
 
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Thanks for the insights my friend. I`ll buy it for sure. A [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is something vital to any Penis Enlargement`er. I didn`t know that such small hose clamps existed, I have the big one. Can you post a link of an image so I can see what you`re talking about? google images i mean.

Thanks Doc!
 
Dorsay;429923 said:
Thanks for the insights my friend. I`ll buy it for sure. A [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] is something vital to any Penis Enlargement`er. I didn`t know that such small hose clamps existed, I have the big one. Can you post a link of an image so I can see what you`re talking about? google images i mean.

Thanks Doc!
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Ya, the clamp is perhaps 3/4". Typical clamp commonly used by plumbers, silver with slits in it, then as you screw clockwise, the screw pulls in the clamp via the slits until it's tight. I did take several pictures of what I was doing in case you or anyone asked, I'll post them tomorrow. Found these at a hardware store (ACE), and I bet they are easy to find. I've worn it with the new mod for about 3 hours so far today, hoping to do at least 2 more hours before I go to bed. So far clamps work great, really added strength. I was thinking that if one were to get pretty big (like 9" ) and wanted to keep going with male edge, they could take another set of outer bars and clamp them to the other outer bars to have 12 slots to work with before ever moving the head piece once (which would give perhaps 18 total). Just a thought, but so far it's enough for me to work with to my goal I believe. But with 2 more outer bars, I bet you could work up to 12 or 13" with this device, easy. The clamps really create strength between the two pieces, no indication of weakness now.

Also, once I'm really up there, like 2600g, adding some tape really helps avoid the head piece slipping at all under clothes or from movement. So I just add electrical tape between the outer rods and head piece and no more slipping off from movement or inside clothes. I ran around a lot with it on today, going up stairs, getting in and out of cars, sitting, standing, etc... usually these things might make the head piece slip, but with the tape, when I got back to the office-it was just as I'd left it before going out. So I do think I've solved all the problems here. I could always use more comfort though, so soon I'm going to try J1L's "T-shirt wrap", very interested to check that out, but one or two mods per day is enough for now lol.

Also-on the clamp, so the diameter (and I did take a shot with it next to the ruler for you to see) is about 3/4" I think maybe 1", but no problem getting it to the size you want for male edge and creating stability. Then I put it half way between the clear hinge piece and outer rod. I would point out though, with the tape added, it detracts from your ability to read the device tension.

BUT, I would also point out that this added stability is NOT necessary til you hit 2000g, so I wouldn't put these on til you work up to that (if you haven't done much extending then I'd say 4 weeks). Once you hit this tension, it's a bit of pressure on the device, so you might want to add clamps like I did, and you can still easily see the 2000g mark and beyond so it doesn't hurt the ability to read the tension once at 2000g. 2800g or 3000g is basically the max here I think, I'm running at about 2600g as stated.

Back to the clamp-so 3/4" or 1" in diameter, and then the width of the clamp is maybe 1/3". So you put it right in the middle to join these two pieces (clear and black) so it's half on one side, half on the other. And if you do this, I'd be real, real careful. Don't overdo it. You can also feel on the outer bar once it has been given strength. It starts feeling like one solid piece instead of two pieces connected together. But again, I wouldn't treat this like most things where you really try to crank it with all your might. Crank it til it's tight and then maybe 10% more turn and STOP!! Otherwise I bet you'll break one or both pieces-so just be real careful and err on the side of caution. Also, if you do it too tight, the inner piece (the red needle that indicates the tension) may not have enough room to move, I had to loosen mine a hair to allow for the red needle movement. So plastic yes, but pretty tough plastic in my opinion. Just not at the hinge.

I'll post pics tomorrow for you.
 
Yes, it appears to be a 3/4" clamp. Pictures attached. Again, I just slipped this over the tube, tightened it (VERY CAREFULLY!) and then snipped off the excess (I had to use wire cutters, and a hammer on the wire cutters to make it cut this-pretty tough metal-be careful doing this too). And then wrapped the mess in electrical tape as shown.
 
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MoreGains123;430362 said:
If I started wearing a kilt I think I'd have bigger social issues than if I had a small penis.
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Why is this?
 
Good pics Doc! thanks, really! I`ll order it tomorrow! Lets grow together... I`ll come back to this thread to copy your mods
 
Dorsay;430424 said:
Good pics Doc! thanks, really! I`ll order it tomorrow! Lets grow together... I`ll come back to this thread to copy your mods
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It's all fun and games til you get to 6 hours a day, then it's a bit of a bitch, but I could always use a partner in crime :)
 
I didnt have any luck with the male edge unit I actually broke 2 of them. Yes getting in and out is a snap and its easier to adjust but the surdiness of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or x4 labs in my opinion makes it abetter device. I use the x4labs noose option and wear it for 1-1.5 hrs. I use the adjustment screws to increase the tension to a desired amount and in doing this it gives me about 1/2-3/4 of a inch adjustment which is more than enough. I find that about every 200-300 hrs I need to add a bar so the adjustment isnt a bigdeal to me.
 
rhino19;430599 said:
I didnt have any luck with the male edge unit I actually broke 2 of them. Yes getting in and out is a snap and its easier to adjust but the surdiness of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] or x4 labs in my opinion makes it abetter device. I use the x4labs noose option and wear it for 1-1.5 hrs. I use the adjustment screws to increase the tension to a desired amount and in doing this it gives me about 1/2-3/4 of a inch adjustment which is more than enough. I find that about every 200-300 hrs I need to add a bar so the adjustment isnt a bigdeal to me.
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I don't doubt the sturdiness claim-like I said, I think the best [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] would be one with the male edge concept (telescoping tubes that lock into place) with more strength at the hinge (the clear part) which is the only place I think that unit is weak. Which is why I came up with my clamp idea which so far is working quite well-the device feels a LOT sturdier, and still functions as well as before.
 
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