Hey bros,

Just wondering if any of you guys use the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] while you sleep. How is it? what does your set up for over night look like? how did you guys ease into using it all night. I am not going to have a whole lot of time to use it during the day so i want to start using it at night time when i order and get my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words].

Thanks bros!!
 
Hey man I will try and make this not a bunch of run ons but I'm on a cellphone so here goes.1the most important thing is to replace the condoms with silacone sleeves immediately, not just for comfort but also for maintaining pressure. 2 to train yourself I cannot stress this enough slow and steady your first week no more then 1-2 hours daily then slowing increase it over a month. Now for night time sleeping I suggest wearing just the bell for a few nights no tention to see how you hold up to the pressure for this amount of time and to make sure you do not develop blisters. Finally for my set up, I hook my pf up to the belt that comes with t and I used to just hook the foam ring around my foot but learned that your feet move a lot during the night so now I just hook the foam ring up to the baseboard on my head with a strap I've rigged it so it stays in place and then I hook up to the bell and have astraight downwadd stretch. Can move easily it will take getting use to because you have to sleep on your back but you do when pulling to the sides also plus this way you prevent ring burn and chafing the bottom of your shaft. Again though this is not something to think you can do in your first week or really even in your first month. Safety is everything
 
smitty2590;717088 said:
Hey man I will try and make this not a bunch of run ons but I'm on a cellphone so here goes.1the most important thing is to replace the condoms with silacone sleeves immediately, not just for comfort but also for maintaining pressure. 2 to train yourself I cannot stress this enough slow and steady your first week no more then 1-2 hours daily then slowing increase it over a month. Now for night time sleeping I suggest wearing just the bell for a few nights no tention to see how you hold up to the pressure for this amount of time and to make sure you do not develop blisters. Finally for my set up, I hook my pf up to the belt that comes with t and I used to just hook the foam ring around my foot but learned that your feet move a lot during the night so now I just hook the foam ring up to the baseboard on my head with a strap I've rigged it so it stays in place and then I hook up to the bell and have astraight downwadd stretch. Can move easily it will take getting use to because you have to sleep on your back but you do when pulling to the sides also plus this way you prevent ring burn and chafing the bottom of your shaft. Again though this is not something to think you can do in your first week or really even in your first month. Safety is everything

Thanks for the reply bro! And ya I really want a silicone sleeve but don't know where to get one for cheap, cause if I order the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] I am not gonna be able to order a sleeve for awhile cause I will already need to pay of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and when you are a full time college student that only works weekends and needs to pay for school, insurance and phone bill you don't have a lot of spare money lol :P I'm from Canada so the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is about $500 CAD which is quite a bit of cash to spend, so are there any cheap silicone sleeves I can use or even make??? And ya I have a [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] so I am thinking about using the belt from that set (PMP is good but the diaphragms break waaaaaaaay too easily for me so I gave up on it, I broke a diaphragm every couple days). But ya this is a great and very progressive program you set up for me here thank you very much!!! I am going to order it tomorrow hopefully and hopefully get it within a week or so!

Do you like your [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] a lot? What kind of gains have you made with it? What tension do you use? Thanks bro!
 
I'm only about 2 months in pf usage I completely finished a beginner program jp90 beforetryinf it at all but so far I am measuring a little over 1/2" total gain in el nothing in girth. I would suggest lg hangers sleeves they will costyou 28 US dollars plus like 8 bucks shipping and I know that sounds a little expensive but you can make 2 sleeves for sure maybe 3 out what they send you and they will last you years. I've tried many different sleeves and these are what I prefer out of everything so far. If you pm me all your current stats I can tell you which of their sleeves to purchase also as I have all 3 different sizes and can pretty accurately tell you which you need for your girth. As far as using the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] belt you can esp during the day to pull downward I do this sometimes with a leg stap during the. Ight there are many things to try it's all about finding what works for you.
 
A few Brothers have been using for overnight stretching with great success. The best way top approach this is using alarms. The first night go for 2 hours and check if things are straight. The next night add another hour and do this until you reach your maximum sleeping time. This will allow you to make adjustments in intensity and position that best suits you.
 
The advice in this thread is spot on. Over last few days I made strides with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] combo.

The way I protect my glands from blisters is using simple cotton cloth that I bought from a fabric store. I bought a big roll of natural cotton sheet and I cut small pieces out of it and simply put it over my glands before entering the largest PF suction bell.

I like this method the best because your glands fill the whole bell and it gives good grip while also protecting all of your skin on your glands not just the tip. By using this method I saw an increase in tension.

I use a firm red sleeve from auto [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] because they are tougher than the soft sleeves in that you can clean them with boiled water and they don't tear like the soft sleeves and so they will last longer.

If your wondering how I used the PF with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], it's simple. I take the PF tension clip (the thing with the colors showing tension green,yellow,red) and I tape it onto the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] rod plate (the white plate that slides over [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] rods) this way I can simply grab the combined tension clip and plate over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] rods easily and see what tension I'm at. Right now I'm in yellow and get a great internal stretch.

To aid in comfort at the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] base. I simply cut a piece of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] foam ring and split it down the middle so it goes over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] base then I tape it with medical tape so it stays in place. Hope this helped. Happy gains :)
 
It was hard to sleep with PF for the first few nights. But with time, you will adjust to it. I have mine tension set it to yellow. I would recommend you to start out slow and have a little tension where you can feel a little stretch there. Once you are comfortable in that state then increase the tension. The main point is to key your unit extended and prevent it from turtling.
 
truant;717324 said:
The advice in this thread is spot on. Over last few days I made strides with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] combo.

The way I protect my glands from blisters is using simple cotton cloth that I bought from a fabric store. I bought a big roll of natural cotton sheet and I cut small pieces out of it and simply put it over my glands before entering the largest PF suction bell.

I like this method the best because your glands fill the whole bell and it gives good grip while also protecting all of your skin on your glands not just the tip. By using this method I saw an increase in tension.

I use a firm red sleeve from auto [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] because they are tougher than the soft sleeves in that you can clean them with boiled water and they don't tear like the soft sleeves and so they will last longer.

If your wondering how I used the PF with the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words], it's simple. I take the PF tension clip (the thing with the colors showing tension green,yellow,red) and I tape it onto the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] rod plate (the white plate that slides over [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] rods) this way I can simply grab the combined tension clip and plate over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] rods easily and see what tension I'm at. Right now I'm in yellow and get a great internal stretch.

To aid in comfort at the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] base. I simply cut a piece of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]forte[/words] foam ring and split it down the middle so it goes over the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] base then I tape it with medical tape so it stays in place. Hope this helped. Happy gains :)

The PhalloGenetics!
 
I'm hoping to eventually either win a monthly prize and get the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] or save up to buy one and make this mod so I can pg during the day then normal pf when I'm using at night time. I actually have a better idea on how to apply the pf to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] cradle though get a small keychain clasp similar to this https://www.google.com/search?q=sma...AUICCgC&biw=375&bih=559#imgrc=gnX6tZQAWBO10M: and run a zip tie though the loop hole then through the hole on the cradle the silacone tubeswould normally go through and zip toe it permanently to the cradle. Once this is done you can just open the clasp and connect it to the tention clip on the pf. Again this is just my idea as I do. Or have a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] to test it but I used to own a cheep known off years ago and it seems like that would have worked easy enough.
 
smitty2590;717479 said:
I'm hoping to eventually either win a monthly prize and get the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] or save up to buy one and make this mod so I can pg during the day then normal pf when I'm using at night time. I actually have a better idea on how to apply the pf to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] cradle though get a small keychain clasp similar to this https://www.google.com/search?q=sma...AUICCgC&biw=375&bih=559#imgrc=gnX6tZQAWBO10M: and run a zip tie though the loop hole then through the hole on the cradle the silacone tubeswould normally go through and zip toe it permanently to the cradle. Once this is done you can just open the clasp and connect it to the tention clip on the pf. Again this is just my idea as I do. Or have a [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sg[/words] to test it but I used to own a cheep known off years ago and it seems like that would have worked easy enough.

I prefer the phallo genetics combo over the penis master pro and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] combo because I don't like the lubricants you have to use with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. Although the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is good if you for whatever reason can't wear the sleeves and only want the head gripped.

Smitty I was trying to think of something similar to your idea so thanks I will try it. The tape works but I would like it to be cleaner and it seams like I have to add more bars than I should. I have 2 big bars on and I can just barely get the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] cradle over on the bars and I end up in yellow tension.

Another thing is I don't really like the red hard sleeves from auto [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. The soft white sleeves broke but the hard sleeves are a bit too hard and pushes my glands out of the bell and it's hard to get back in. I'm going to try and cut the hard sleeve shorter and see if that helps. If not then I'm going to order the medium sleeves which I haven't tried yet.
 
truant;717480 said:
I prefer the phallo genetics combo over the penis master pro and [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]size genetics[/words] combo because I don't like the lubricants you have to use with the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words]. Although the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is good if you for whatever reason can't wear the sleeves and only want the head gripped.

Smitty I was trying to think of something similar to your idea so thanks I will try it. The tape works but I would like it to be cleaner and it seams like I have to add more bars than I should. I have 2 big bars on and I can just barely get the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] cradle over on the bars and I end up in yellow tension.

Another thing is I don't really like the red hard sleeves from auto [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words]. The soft white sleeves broke but the hard sleeves are a bit too hard and pushes my glands out of the bell and it's hard to get back in. I'm going to try and cut the hard sleeve shorter and see if that helps. If not then I'm going to order the medium sleeves which I haven't tried yet.

I suggest lg hanger sleeves to everyone because I use a lot of sleeves and with the pf I feel they are best ofboth worlds they are hard yet soft I love them but just my opinion.
 
smitty2590;717489 said:
I suggest lg hanger sleeves to everyone because I use a lot of sleeves and with the pf I feel they are best ofboth worlds they are hard yet soft I love them but just my opinion.

I looked at the LG hanger sleeves. It's $28 for for one sleeve. Auto [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] has 2 for 20 and the medium sleeves may be just as good.
 
truant;717492 said:
I looked at the LG hanger sleeves. It's $28 for for one sleeve. Auto [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] has 2 for 20 and the medium sleeves may be just as good.


May be, I know cost is always a factor but customer service is a big deal to me also and lg is s small family owned business in thr states. Marlon and his wife have cut backflips anytime I've asked anything of them. Also 1 good sleeve will last you for years and depending on your size you'll get multiple sleeves from the one the send by cutting. Again I just like to promote products I believe in and know the business stands by and I've had nothing g but good luck and service with them I've used some from ae and also from ab but they did not work the same for me. Everyone is different and perfers different. Hope this helps you out
 
I can't wait for our sleeves to be done, we will drop the price and give a much better product.
 
doublelongdaddy;717716 said:
I can't wait for our sleeves to be done, we will drop the price and give a much better product.

I can't wait and sure hope so dld. Are me and eugine still going to be the two testing the sleeve when they are finished? I truly would love to give some input and try them out I know exactly what I'm looking for and a lot of others would be in a sleeve ESP for using with clamping, and pf useage. Was just curious because I was never contacted by lightning although eugine did tell me it's been pushed back a bit.
 
smitty2590;717781 said:
I can't wait and sure hope so dld. Are me and eugine still going to be the two testing the sleeve when they are finished? I truly would love to give some input and try them out I know exactly what I'm looking for and a lot of others would be in a sleeve ESP for using with clamping, and pf useage. Was just curious because I was never contacted by lightning although eugine did tell me it's been pushed back a bit.

Yes, you will be testing them. LIGHTNING said He was waiting on some other samples and He would get them out as soon as He reviewed them. Have patience they are coming and when ready you will be contacted.
 
doublelongdaddy;717818 said:
Yes, you will be testing them. LIGHTNING said He was waiting on some other samples and He would get them out as soon as He reviewed them. Have patience they are coming and when ready you will be contacted.

Awesome thanks for the reply. Patience is the hard part haha but it's all good I have what I need for now was just making sure. A dedicated man can never have to many pe items on hand though and better sleeves are always a plus for so many different applications.
 
smitty2590;717876 said:
Awesome thanks for the reply. Patience is the hard part haha but it's all good I have what I need for now was just making sure. A dedicated man can never have to many pe items on hand though and better sleeves are always a plus for so many different applications.

I know, I feel the same way! So many new things are coming into Lightning right now that He is having trouble juggling it all. Hopefully the dust will settle soon and we can get some testing done.
 
doublelongdaddy;717967 said:
I know, I feel the same way! So many new things are coming into Lightning right now that He is having trouble juggling it all. Hopefully the dust will settle soon and we can get some testing done.

All good, we're patient we can wait for the best [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] technologies.
 
kyomoto;718005 said:
All good, we're patient we can wait for the best [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] technologies.

Patience is hard sometimes but it is worth the wait, LIGHTNING does nothing half-assed, He searches out the best and makes the deals happen.
 
doublelongdaddy;718094 said:
Patience is hard sometimes but it is worth the wait, LIGHTNING does nothing half-assed, He searches out the best and makes the deals happen.

Exactly. Hard work pays off no matter how long.
 
kyomoto;718119 said:
Exactly. Hard work pays off no matter how long.

This is completely true. Dld I know y'all have been talking about coming out with your own products and your always up to suggestions. I'd absolutely love to see a package deal basically like the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] but with a vaccumm head piece styled towards the pf paired with a belt and rod [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] that comes with one of talks sleeves instead of the crappy condoms and lastly also paired with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] or a similar tool that would be hands down the best package. Everything needed for good stretches, plus [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] with either the belt or rod system or a combination of the two. Just a suggestion since I know y'all are looking into this type of thing.
 
smitty2590;718143 said:
This is completely true. Dld I know y'all have been talking about coming out with your own products and your always up to suggestions. I'd absolutely love to see a package deal basically like the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]pmp[/words] but with a vaccumm head piece styled towards the pf paired with a belt and rod [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] that comes with one of talks sleeves instead of the crappy condoms and lastly also paired with a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] or a similar tool that would be hands down the best package. Everything needed for good stretches, plus [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] with either the belt or rod system or a combination of the two. Just a suggestion since I know y'all are looking into this type of thing.

Thanks Smitty, This is kind of the model we are looking to. We want every possible option to make an all in one kit that will work for everyone.
 
That will be an amazing kit dld. I have some ideas on how to attach the head piece to the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] cradle depending on which style vaccumm head piece y'all go with. I could draw it up in autocad with a 3D model because it may be hard to visualize. Either way this kit will be a game changer
 
I've been wearing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for over 1200 hours now...a lot of those are nighttime hours.
Here's the way I wear it...I take off the belt and connect the loop on the bell to a metal clasp of a six foot dog leash. The hand grip part of the dog leash goes down to the bottom of my bed and then loops around the foot of a stool that is at the foot of our bed. When traveling, I've looped it around the leg of a chair that I move to the end of the bed. You just have to make sure your wife doesn't decide to move the chair while you're hooked up...my wife did that once...it was actually funny when it happened...no harm done!
This type of rig gives you an incredible stretch. Using the LG sleeve or the chinese sleeves from Aliexpress you will not lose suction no matter how you turn. I typically go from my back to one side and then the other. If you raise your legs up you can really keep the tension in the upper yellow or red if you're pretty experienced with your [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].
 
getinbig;718357 said:
I've been wearing my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] for over 1200 hours now...a lot of those are nighttime hours.
Here's the way I wear it...I take off the belt and connect the loop on the bell to a metal clasp of a six foot dog leash. The hand grip part of the dog leash goes down to the bottom of my bed and then loops around the foot of a stool that is at the foot of our bed. When traveling, I've looped it around the leg of a chair that I move to the end of the bed. You just have to make sure your wife doesn't decide to move the chair while you're hooked up...my wife did that once...it was actually funny when it happened...no harm done!
This type of rig gives you an incredible stretch. Using the LG sleeve or the chinese sleeves from Aliexpress you will not lose suction no matter how you turn. I typically go from my back to one side and then the other. If you raise your legs up you can really keep the tension in the upper yellow or red if you're pretty experienced with your [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words].

Thanks for the advice. What has been your gaining looking like since going all night with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]?
 
Listen to getin big he's very knowledgeable about the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and clamping. He's a friend from another forum I suggested got more involved here at the brotherhood because of how welcome I've been. He's giving me solid advice many times.
 
smitty2590;718492 said:
Listen to getin big he's very knowledgeable about the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] and clamping. He's a friend from another forum I suggested got more involved here at the brotherhood because of how welcome I've been. He's giving me solid advice many times.

So glad you Brothers made it here!
 
doublelongdaddy;718679 said:
So glad you Brothers made it here!

Thanks dld I am also. I had been going back to the other site to just pm with him aswe always bouce ideas and new things we come up with back and forth to one another. Finally I just told him to get on here so I didn't have to go on there anymore to just check messages and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] has everything I was looking for. Glad I ended up here the atmosphere on the fourms is so different then others.
 
smitty2590;718779 said:
Thanks dld I am also. I had been going back to the other site to just pm with him aswe always bouce ideas and new things we come up with back and forth to one another. Finally I just told him to get on here so I didn't have to go on there anymore to just check messages and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] has everything I was looking for. Glad I ended up here the atmosphere on the fourms is so different then others.

I hope others will follow you, there is no place like home! :)
 
doublelongdaddy;718879 said:
I hope others will follow you, there is no place like home! :)

Can't argue with that haha. I just feel I get a lot more honest feedback here without the snobby attitude some feel the need for elsewhere. Plus no other fourms give back to the members like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] does. I mean to give away monthly prizes to help us reach goals along with the free information here I feel [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] really has it all. The big thing is I can tell your passion for helping other men through this journey. That's probably the number one thing that made [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] my home is the passion you along with others here show for helping and informing without talking down on someone.
 
smitty2590;718967 said:
Can't argue with that haha. I just feel I get a lot more honest feedback here without the snobby attitude some feel the need for elsewhere. Plus no other fourms give back to the members like [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] does. I mean to give away monthly prizes to help us reach goals along with the free information here I feel [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] really has it all. The big thing is I can tell your passion for helping other men through this journey. That's probably the number one thing that made [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] my home is the passion you along with others here show for helping and informing without talking down on someone.

It was created that way. The Brotherhood was my baby, a gift from God, and I knew how blessed I was when I received this honor. We have always come together as a family, a collection of men who want to become better in all ways, not just sexually. We really love and care for one another. When one of us falls we are all there to pick him up. We are an image of the way the world should really be. You will find everything you want here in the sense of PE as no one can compare to our innovations in PE but what needs to be seen is the qualities that go beyond PE. Coming to a forum to enlarge your penis without doing interior work will not solve your problem with confidence, you can gain 3 inches and still lack confidence. The disorder I named back in 2000 called PDD (Penile Dysmorphic Disorder) is very real and when size is gained without interior work the gains become almost impossible to realize. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], the Brotherhood, this Family is dedicated to correction of all areas of manhood from relationships to weight loss and everything in between. I spent much time at every forum that has come out and they have all missed the boat on this and they will never have the great understanding of what we are. You are now a Brother of a Family that will care for you as a Father does for His Son!
 
doublelongdaddy;718490 said:
Thanks for the advice. What has been your gaining looking like since going all night with the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]?

Hi DLD! I made a pact with myself to not measure until I've finished 2000 hours, so I have about 700+ hours to go. I'll post my results here. I'm hoping to get close to 7" BPEL and 6" MEG. I think I'll be close to both when I measure. Not bad considering I started with pretty humble measurements.
 
getinbig;719810 said:
Hi DLD! I made a pact with myself to not measure until I've finished 2000 hours, so I have about 700+ hours to go. I'll post my results here. I'm hoping to get close to 7" BPEL and 6" MEG. I think I'll be close to both when I measure. Not bad considering I started with pretty humble measurements.

Now that takes some discipline! I am praying for some big gains for you!
 
getinbig;719810 said:
Hi DLD! I made a pact with myself to not measure until I've finished 2000 hours, so I have about 700+ hours to go. I'll post my results here. I'm hoping to get close to 7" BPEL and 6" MEG. I think I'll be close to both when I measure. Not bad considering I started with pretty humble measurements.

Thanks brother cant wait to see your results :)
 
getinbig;719810 said:
Hi DLD! I made a pact with myself to not measure until I've finished 2000 hours, so I have about 700+ hours to go. I'll post my results here. I'm hoping to get close to 7" BPEL and 6" MEG. I think I'll be close to both when I measure. Not bad considering I started with pretty humble measurements.

That's some serious dedication and discipline! Subscribed and anticipating your results
 
Big Schwanz Acht;720362 said:
That's some serious dedication and discipline! Subscribed and anticipating your results

Yea getinbig has already seen great gains from clamping and such. Sure he will have some great gains to report from the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] as he stays dedicated with his use.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;720362 said:
That's some serious dedication and discipline! Subscribed and anticipating your results

:):):) Me too :)
 
doublelongdaddy;720293 said:
Now that takes some discipline! I am praying for some big gains for you!

DLD,
Thanks for your encouragement. We will see how much discipline I have...it's very tempting to pull out that tape and measure...
I'm really hoping I see 6 inches of MEG when that time comes. Looking for a little length gain as well.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;720362 said:
That's some serious dedication and discipline! Subscribed and anticipating your results

Thanks Big Schwanz Acht! I'll be posting when I finally measure...
 
getinbig;720752 said:
Thanks kyomoto! I'm having trouble waiting as well...haha...

Wait and let time bring the numbers up :)
 
getinbig;719810 said:
Hi DLD! I made a pact with myself to not measure until I've finished 2000 hours, so I have about 700+ hours to go. I'll post my results here. I'm hoping to get close to 7" BPEL and 6" MEG. I think I'll be close to both when I measure. Not bad considering I started with pretty humble measurements.

I will be looking forward to your gains.
 
Just got out of my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] after a 2 hour set without using the protector cap, and there were marks from the small holes in the vacuum that were on the tip of my glans. I am guessing that my glans got partially sucked up into the vacuum holes. Not pain, but was a little bit uncomfortable while wearing it. Has anyone else had this problem? Do I have to worry about it getting sucked into the holes more often or is it not really that big of a deal?
 
2slow;721103 said:
Its not a big deal bro. It should go away pretty fast. If it worries you, you could put a peice of medical tape over the top of your glan. Try and make sure its breathable material and that should solve your problem. That happened to me also. No biggie. Alot of folks are fixated on useing the protector cap, but it isnt necessary. It just helps to condition your glan for the pressure. Once it stretchs out you should be conditioned to were you dont really need it..

I still wear mine but I've been seriously considering ditching it and using some tender tape instead. My dick isn't big by any means but my head is a big mushroom type or that's what I call it it's like 1/2 x larger then my dick. When I put the glad protector on it folds the ridge over in a position that isn't uncomfortable but when I take it off it's normally deep purple so i dont know want to ditch it but aranlid of blisters. I'm one of those dudes who is extremely careful when it comes to pe as I'm paranoid.
 
smitty2590;721126 said:
I still wear mine but I've been seriously considering ditching it and using some tender tape instead. My dick isn't big by any means but my head is a big mushroom type or that's what I call it it's like 1/2 x larger then my dick. When I put the glad protector on it folds the ridge over in a position that isn't uncomfortable but when I take it off it's normally deep purple so i dont know want to ditch it but aranlid of blisters. I'm one of those dudes who is extremely careful when it comes to pe as I'm paranoid.

Must be nice to have a shroom head! So many want that and we can find no way to make it happen :(
 
doublelongdaddy;721166 said:
Must be nice to have a shroom head! So many want that and we can find no way to make it happen :(

And I wonder what happens when he pumps consistently for a period of 6 months. What will that penis look like with that mushroom head.
 
huge-girth;721378 said:
And I wonder what happens when he pumps consistently for a period of 6 months. What will that penis look like with that mushroom head.

Like a freaking MONSTER!
 
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