I started at 7" NBPenis EnlargementL and 5" MSEG. I used an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] for a bit, then i switched to manual stuff, i recently signed up with Big AL and ive got a good routine going.
Horizontal erection is about 7.6 NBPenis EnlargementL i think, i dont really know the exact numbers.