Girlfriend told me shes a virgin, BUT...

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velimirovich

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Ugh, okay guys get this..

My girlfriend told me shes a virgin, and we've been going out for a few months now, and knowing that shes a virgin, I haven't engaged in sexual intercourse with her yet, also.. we only see eachother each 2nd weekend, but she loves me a lot and shes very attached and I know she isnt cheating or anything like that.

Now.. the thing is.. I'm going to sleep at her house in August for a week so ill fuck her then, which is very soon.. however..

On saturday I was out with my gf, and one of her old friends from years ago, she hadn;t seen this girl in a year, and they were friends for 3 years, she knows her from school.

Keep in my mind gf also told me she never did drugs, not even weed... and out of nowhere as we're all walking, her friend blurts out.. "remember when we used to smoke weed" etc" Im thinking WTF?????

and then "remember all those guys from blabla club" "you used to msg me on MSN saying i need to get laid" blabla and other worse shit which meant she got fucked many times and made her seem like even a former slut!

Man.. I was so pissed off the rest of the day I didnt hold her hand etc but i also didnt talk about why i was mad, because I felt so fucking hurt and crushed.

Also, she has a condition called 'wide-set' vagina, which means shes wider than most girls I assume, and now I learn shes a fucking former slut probably.. ugh..

Shes really a great girl, very nice, etc.. I know everything she used to do was in the past and she doesnt do it now, but I really fucking dont appreciate that she lied to me and she is STILL denying it saying her friend is full of shit etc.. why the hell would her friend lie?

This whole situation pisses me off.. fuck...

It's like surreal.. I dont look at her the same anymore.. and I know shes a really good liar too, so I cant really trust her when she says its not true..

I wanna stay with her for sure but.. what do you guys think of all this?

Ugh!!!!
 
If I were you, really liking her (besides this shit), I'd confront her and give her one chance to come clean.

ONE CHANCE.

If she lies again, you can't trust her, and that's the end of it.
 
hey man, you should try talking to her and explain that her lying to you is worse than any thing she could tell you about her past. id be wary about when her friend says stuff like that IN FRONT OF YOU, girls arent stupid - they know wat they are doing. if you ask her straight out then it puts pressure on them to say the right thing and hence lie, you should approach it delicately and maybe try to catch her out in conversation, maybe talking about your past will help her. also if you have tried your best and still think she is lying to you - get rid of her, last thing you want is a lying gf - only leads to trust issues and cheating.
 
Thanks for the posts guys, appreciate it, I can use all the help I can get right now. =/

Um.. I think the reason she doesnt wanna tell me though is because she'll think that I think shes a slut and my whole view of her will chance n shit..

And also.. when she told me she was a "virgin" I was pretty happy and surprised and I told her that it was a turnon for me etc.. and also I was like.. well at least your diease free etc..

Anyway I told one of my real life friends about this, and it's obvious its all in her past, she does not do this stuff anymore, she most certainly does not cheat and does not do drugs now or since ive been going out with her but.. its true she should be able to tell me the truth about her past, even if it is tainted and even if she is not proud of it.. especially lying about something like being a virgin.. =|

Im gonna ask her tommorow I hope she fesses up to it but I don't think she will, she's gonna stick to her story.. but ultimately, I guess i'll find out when I fuck her in a few weeks, she better be tight as a motherfucker (even though she has a wide-set vagina) because if not i'll call her on her shit right then and there =p
 
good luck man

trust is the main thing in a relationship, so when she lies she ends the trust

hope you 2 can talk about everything, better to come out clean then lie about something, cuz lies always come out eventually

l8erz
 
First Fuck her then ask her about it. Because once you ask her those legs are closed and you may not get the chance at all. They all count..rofl
 
She probably told you that she was a virgin because thats what you wanted to hear,suppose she has slept with 6 guys before you,if she told you that what would you have thought,you would of ended up asking question after question,what did you do with them,how big were they,did you give them head ect.ect.

I would say that NO women will admit to the real amount of partners they have had,simply because they no how jealous guys can get.
 
prince Albert said:
She probably told you that she was a virgin because thats what you wanted to hear,suppose she has slept with 6 guys before you,if she told you that what would you have thought,you would of ended up asking question after question,what did you do with them,how big were they,did you give them head ect.ect.

I would say that NO women will admit to the real amount of partners they have had,simply because they no how jealous guys can get.
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Nice post, makes sense.. so... you think its not a big deal that she lied about it though?
 
Well you yourself described her as a former slut,she probably knew thats what you would think and thats why she lied,she carn't change what she has done in the past she may well regret it who knows.

Just because she has had several guys before doesn't mean she is going to cheat on you either.

I don't think its that big a deal that she lied to you for the reasons ive said,telling you she was a virgin was stupid though,she should of used the universal lie of ive been with 2-3 guys before.
 
Dude come on. You talked about this "medical condition" in another thread. You want to know what a wide set vagina is? A chick who has been stretched out by a big dick. You said no way she's a virgin who doesn't lie. Don't be so naive. Fuck her of course, but don't develop feelings for her. She obviously is not a virgin and does lie. I'm not saying anything bad about non virgins. All I'm saying is this chick probably thinks she is a player. Bang her for a while but don't put stock in your relationship. Part ways as friends and not enemies.
 
I talked to her today guys

and everything is fine

Shes a virgin and I believe her

And lets say hypothetically it really did happen..

She just turned 17 years old, Ive been going out with her since January, and known her since September..

If shes a former slut why would she be so shy for sex shit with me??

She told me her friend said that to get a reaction out of me and it wasnt true and I talked to another one of her friends who the girl did that to also by saying she used to do drugs with her in front of the girls boyfriend (bare with me here lol) and the bf got pissed etc but it wasnt true

So she just likes to stir the pot

In hindsight it really doesnt make sense coz she didnt try anything with me, and im one hot piece of arse and we've been going out for like half a year..

Im gonna bang her next week I think so I shall keep you all posted on how the events unfold, stay tunned!

As of right now I fully believe her, she has however told me she has had oral sex, given and recieved with her former bf, they brokeup in august of last year and thats the last time she did anything sexually she said.

Anyway stay tunned folks!=]
 
If she don't bleed when you pop her cherry all tho some girls don't bleed i think but anyway that would have me thinking weather she is lying or not as i understand most girls bleed.
 
You can calculate if she has or not by the things she does during foreplay etc.If she seems like she knows what she is doing, and if she gives head in a very experienced way, she may be a little seasoned!Also, if she shaves her pussy in a clean cut way, like a runway strip etc.,then you may question that as well!What is the point of a virgin shaving her snatch in a sexy way, unless it has already been seen by a few guys!

If you use a condom, you may ask her to help you put it on, just to see if she knows what she is doing......there again, if she knows how to do this, then that should be a sign!!If she is a virgin, then it may last between you, but what does happen is that later on, she will wonder what it's like to be with other people.....I have seen this happen to many guys, that hook up with a virgin.......it all ends with the relationship drifting apart, and her going out to taste some different meat.What ever happens, I wish you the best!!
 
Girthius said:
If you use a condom, you may ask her to help you put it on, just to see if she knows what she is doing......there again, if she knows how to do this, then that should be a sign!!If she is a virgin, then it may last between you, but what does happen is that later on, she will wonder what it's like to be with other people.....I have seen this happen to many guys, that hook up with a virgin.......it all ends with the relationship drifting apart, and her going out to taste some different meat.What ever happens, I wish you the best!!
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And if she puts the condom on by using just her mouth, I'd say she's no virgin. After your little sexual escapade, ask her what her roster looks like, how many guys she's been with. I don't know, it's possible she changed her ways, went from a straight up slut to stuck-up or whatever. I was with a girl that used to be a big time slut, but she changed, we went out for some 6 months, she never cheated on me (that I know of). Yes, I too have seen girls stray after being de-virginized. Watch out for that!
 
unfortunately i tend to be more on the negative side of this thread than on the positive. This situation has happened to me with a gf of 3 years when i found out a year into the relation that in and around 2 months before going out with me she went from a very good girl, to a huge whore. She met a couple of guys off the internet and fucked two of them the same day she met them, and tried to fuck the other one as well but the guy got a bad case of limp-dickosys.

you see this situation is very tough. I can with certainty say that I've never hurt so much as when I found out about that. * a little about me: I'm a fitness model and i've always fucked around and not given a fuck about girls. girls are of little importance to me because ive seen how they talk to a jerk like me about their bf being a pussy.. a bf that actually cares about them, and yet they throw all that trust and respect away just to get my attention for a while, (since i treat them like crap :p). *

but this girl was different.. it was one of the few times i actually liked her as a person, and we were amazing friends. and what made it amazing was how she used to talk about 'sluts' and how disgusting something some1 did is... to me that was great cause every guy wants a girl that no other guy can have. so she told me she'd only had sex with one person and only 5 times her whole life, and since she was horrible at sex, and horrible at giving head i believed her. now im not sure if she actually learnt with me how to give amazing head, or if she was pretending to be bad the first while. so if ur gf sucks at sex dont take it as assurance that she's a virgin, because she's not stupid, and if she was a former whore she knows how to pretend like she doesnt know wtf she is doing.

to cut the story short i found out about those other guys, and it wasnt really the fact that she'd been with 4 other guys... pfft ive been with girls who've been with 50. it was the fact that she lied, and it made me feel stupid and retarded for playing into her hand like blindass fool. blinded by the so called love and affection you feel when you think you've found the one! ofcourse she denied it to the very last moment, until i showed her "proof" (dont ask) that she'd done what she had. again there was sooo much denial and she just couldnt spit out the fact that she had actually done it until a year later when she admitted to the whole thing. she was always downplaying it and saying people talk shit, her friends, and though she thought she was slick, stuff like this sometimes have a tendency of comming out.

Anyways, after months of hurting and months of her crying and saying that she cant change the past and that she regrets what she did and that she loves me and that she's never been so in love with anyone and that the only reason she did those is because she actually thought love doesnt exist, and alotta of other bullshit, COMBINED with my true affection for her, I decided to give her another chance and believe that she's the person i fell in love with and not a lying whore... but rather, a girl who made some mistakes and has learnt from them.

so i did what you're about to do... forgive and not forget. but one cant help to let go of memories that hurt his mind, body, and soul every time he remembers them for even a second. so the relationship went on for around 3 years, and she was talking of settling down and how she wants to spend the rest of her life with me. and i actually loved her, and though im not ready to settle down i would entertain the idea. everything was going perfect until i found out that she really had changed :) ... she'd gone from a stupid whore, to a smart one, who now knew how to get past my lie filter. and i found out, that while going out with me, she went to a party, and had a threesome with a guy and his gf, while her OWN BROTHER was in the same party downstairs...

i'd often told her that i wanted to have a 3some w her and another girl, or that a girl friend of mine was giving his bf a threesome for his bday. and you know what her excuse was? 'i really wanted to try kissing a girl'

?:( ?:( ?:( ?:( ?:( ?:( ?:( ?:( ?:( so why didnt you wanna try it with me?

her answer.. (this GOLD rofl ) 'i didnt want you to think bad of me or think im a whore'..

and ofcourse the question of why did you let the bf join in...
her answer : "because his gf said he has a really big dick!"

lol, so, my friend, you seem like where i was 5 years ago. i could tell you what many have already told you, to fuck her and not give a shit about her, but i can tell you like her and that ur not strong enough to confront the fact that she's a whore.

and if her friend was 'joking' about that crap, trust me, her reaction would have been MUCHHH different that day infront of you and her rather than passive.

being a whore is like being gay. you cant be straight and say nothing to a guy that fingers your ass in a club.. you wont be passive with it.. you will be angry like fuck and youll address it right then and there. but if you're an undercover homo, and some1 squeezes your ass in the club, you might not even notice it. i hope you get the analogy im trying to use here.

my advice would be to face the fact that she's a whore and realize that just as she's lied about drugs and virginity, she could have you believe that she doesnt cheat on you.

i know many girls that have had good looking boyfriends infront of whom they wanted to seem like good girls, and wouldnt fuck him. and yet they had other fuck buddies they would fuck discrete just for the sex. keep your eyes and ears open and your dick covered when you're with her.

and the whole 'wide set' vagina thing seems like a total load of shit. its like when guys with small dicks tell girls that since they're working out alot and taking protein shakes and creatine, they dick has shrunk just the past two weeks. lol.

its funny when a girl asks me... omg so if you stop taking protein shakes, you dick will grow sooo mcuh more... ?:( ?:( ?:(

I hope this response helps you. i can relate to your situation, and i sincerely hope you come out of it with your head high and your cock clean.

V-Kay
 
Have you fingered this girl, velimirovich? Believe me a virgin pussy is much different than a non virgin one. A virgin pussy is almost non existent. Ask her what a wide set vagina is. I would like to know what she says. Just google the word and you'll see that it isn't a medical term.
 
Jason1 said:
Have you fingered this girl, velimirovich? Believe me a virgin pussy is much different than a non virgin one. A virgin pussy is almost non existent. Ask her what a wide set vagina is. I would like to know what she says. Just google the word and you'll see that it isn't a medical term.
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1. wide-set vagina
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A person that has a vagina that is really big and can fit two tampons in it.

Ben said that girl had a wide-set vagina.
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http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wide-set+vagina
 
Oh I already googled it I just wanted to illustrate my point to him that she won't have a good answer because she is lying and it isn't a medical condition.
 
Jason1 said:
And I'm not trying to be harsh or hurt this guy's feelings. I just think its better for him to realize the truth.
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i understand your point exactly. I think the same way. It's better if he get's a straight up advice from us rather than a greased up one... girls do enuff greasing anyways...
 
velimirovich said:
Well even if it is true.. she aint admitting it.. and if it is true. shes a former slut anyway so.. it was in the past and its over with.
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not quite so simple
if she's lying so well and so easily about being a virgin, she will just as easily lie about a night that she got drunk and fucked some1 else and will keep lying.

a slut is much more likely than a decent girl with morals to cheat on a bf.. which is a reason guys dont like date sluts, cause they open their legs to anything that moves.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
not quite so simple
if she's lying so well and so easily about being a virgin, she will just as easily lie about a night that she got drunk and fucked some1 else and will keep lying.

a slut is much more likely than a decent girl with morals to cheat on a bf.. which is a reason guys dont like date sluts, cause they open their legs to anything that moves.
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No

this girl doesnt go out anymore

she stopped going clubbing ever since I met her

she calls me every damn day, etcetc shes very attached to me, and im 100% sure she is not cheating
 
velimirovich said:
No

this girl doesnt go out anymore

she stopped going clubbing ever since I met her

she calls me every damn day, etcetc shes very attached to me, and im 100% sure she is not cheating
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Ok my friend. you asked our opinions, and we gave it to you. Think what you want, and you might be right, but girls who lie about their past usually do it because they want to hide a potentially whorish future as well.

the fact that she doesnt go clubbing and that she calls u every day means nothing. you said urself u see her once every 2 weeks.

but whatever it's your life. Best of luck to you. There's nothing worse than getting played by some whore that completely made a food out of you. so watch out for yourself, cause when she fucks you over, she wont be there to ease your pain.
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
Ok my friend. you asked our opinions, and we gave it to you. Think what you want, and you might be right, but girls who lie about their past usually do it because they want to hide a potentially whorish future as well.

the fact that she doesnt go clubbing and that she calls u every day means nothing. you said urself u see her once every 2 weeks.

but whatever it's your life. Best of luck to you. There's nothing worse than getting played by some whore that completely made a food out of you. so watch out for yourself, cause when she fucks you over, she wont be there to ease your pain.
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Dude, I really appreciate your guys judgement and believe me, im not stupid, and I haven't made any conclusions yet, but Im gonna enjoy it while it lasts..

Like chris rock said.. who says how many guys shes been with in her past, why do you wanna know? why? just be happy ur getting it now.. lol
 
velimirovich said:
Dude, I really appreciate your guys judgement and believe me, im not stupid, and I haven't made any conclusions yet, but Im gonna enjoy it while it lasts..

Like chris rock said.. who says how many guys shes been with in her past, why do you wanna know? why? just be happy ur getting it now.. lol
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lol
sounds good brother. that's the key word, enjoy it while it lasts.

btw. im from t.dot.
 
Well,

You asked for opinions and you got them. Your decision is your own and I hope it's the right one.

Good luck, and yeah just enjoy the whole thing.
 
Yeah, I had that same shit happen to me too. This girl told me she was a virgin and we went out for a year before I found out she had fucked like 2 or more guys before me. I only found this out when she cheated on me with my best friend and once before that with some random dildo. Once a liar always a liar.

p.s. she is lying about the wide pussy syndrome
 
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Munson said:
Yeah, I had that same shit happen to me too. This girl told me she was a virgin and we went out for a year before I found out she had fucked like 2 or more guys before me. I only found this out when she cheated on me with my best friend and once before that with some random dildo. Once a liar always a liar.

p.s. she is lying about the wide pussy syndrome
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REALLY?

Ok guys heres the story behind the wide set vagina shit..

She told me she went to the doctor with her mom to get tested to see if she had this thing called ki.ss, which runs in her family supposedly, its this thing behind ur uterus that causes pressure etc and u need operator or something..

She told me though that she didnt have it and shes glad.

She did however tell me that, when the doctor asked her if she was a virgin and she said yes, she said he "didnt believe me at first" =| I know i know..

And that she has a 'wide set vagina' whatever.. =/

Thing you gotta remember also about this girl..

she's 5ft10, and shes pretty big in every aspect..

She's not exactly super skinny, but not fat.. if ya know what I mean.. she has a HUGE ass also, and widde hips.. think.. black girls ass.. she has one, and umm.. yeah.. so I think it could be possible she has 'wide set vagina' on her own possibly.. shes big in every other aspect I dont see why her pussy would be small compared to the rest of her.

Now maybe im just being a sucker and wide set vagina really does not exist at all or it only exists by girls being stretched out by other guys.. in which case would fuckin suck.. but how much sex does a girl gotta have for that shit to happen?

She's a very family oriented girl, If she did fuck guys, It couldnt have been for a very long period of time I assume..

I also asked her what she said sexually, all the times she did sexually.. she told me.. everything but the actual intercourse.. meaning she did oral, etc.. got oral, recieved oral etc... sketchy? =\

Her last boyfriend was in August of 2005 and thats the last time she did anything sexually at all.. so...

Anyway whats ur guys opinion now?

Btw, even though I only see her every 2 weeks, I talk to her everynight for like over an hour all the time. Since meeting me months ago, she stopped going out to clubs with her friends etc because shes like, the guys all rub up on you etc, Im not single anymore etc..and I love you..

Guys.. ugh

I just remembered something kinda embarassing for me.. that probably slipped out of her mouth in the heat of the moment...

She mentioned once that what she hated from her ex-bf was how his dick would always be like up her ass(not literally) but jammed near there or something because he slept so close to her.... Any comments about this? I know.. doesnt sound good at all.. lol =|

I really appreciate you guys helping me out with this shit.. I love you all in a non-gay.. but still somewhat sexual way. :cool:
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
lol
sounds good brother. that's the key word, enjoy it while it lasts.

btw. im from t.dot.
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Yeah man, to be honest, this girl is soooo into me, I couldnt shake her off with a stick, and I love her too of course, I just hope you guys arent painting the picture in your minds that she is using me or whatever.. a girl has never been this attached to me.

Btw.. t.dot heh.. cool man.. umm just out of curiosity btw.. when did you start doing Penis Enlargement? coz those gains are amazing o.O also.. routine plz? (:
 
Munson said:
Yeah, I had that same shit happen to me too. This girl told me she was a virgin and we went out for a year before I found out she had fucked like 2 or more guys before me. I only found this out when she cheated on me with my best friend and once before that with some random dildo. Once a liar always a liar.

p.s. she is lying about the wide pussy syndrome
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sry to hear about that man.

its girls like this that make me proud of my Penis Enlargement sessions. Most think Penis Enlargement is for adding more pleasure to sex, but that's more in the technique department. Penis Enlargement is for bitchslapping these girls into reality! (and getting that damn alarm clock in the morning)
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
sry to hear about that man.

its girls like this that make me proud of my Penis Enlargement sessions. Most think Penis Enlargement is for adding more pleasure to sex, but that's more in the technique department. Penis Enlargement is for bitchslapping these girls into reality! (and getting that damn alarm clock in the morning)
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I agree.. I look at Penis Enlargement like working out your body.. you're just being the best you can be.
 
just for the love of god use condoms every time no matter what she says if you want to stay with her. don't get stupid and fall in lust and not use one. because if she is a ho you wont be terrified that you might have some disease until you finally get the nerve to get tested
 
Munson said:
just for the love of god use condoms every time no matter what she says if you want to stay with her. don't get stupid and fall in lust and not use one. because if she is a ho you wont be terrified that you might have some disease until you finally get the nerve to get tested
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Oh, of course man.
 
velimirovich said:
REALLY?

Ok guys heres the story behind the wide set vagina shit..

She told me she went to the doctor with her mom to get tested to see if she had this thing called ki.ss, which runs in her family supposedly, its this thing behind ur uterus that causes pressure etc and u need operator or something..

She told me though that she didnt have it and shes glad.

She did however tell me that, when the doctor asked her if she was a virgin and she said yes, she said he "didnt believe me at first" =| I know i know..

And that she has a 'wide set vagina' whatever.. =/

Thing you gotta remember also about this girl..

she's 5ft10, and shes pretty big in every aspect..

She's not exactly super skinny, but not fat.. if ya know what I mean.. she has a HUGE ass also, and widde hips.. think.. black girls ass.. she has one, and umm.. yeah.. so I think it could be possible she has 'wide set vagina' on her own possibly.. shes big in every other aspect I dont see why her pussy would be small compared to the rest of her.

Now maybe im just being a sucker and wide set vagina really does not exist at all or it only exists by girls being stretched out by other guys.. in which case would fuckin suck.. but how much sex does a girl gotta have for that shit to happen?

She's a very family oriented girl, If she did fuck guys, It couldnt have been for a very long period of time I assume..

I also asked her what she said sexually, all the times she did sexually.. she told me.. everything but the actual intercourse.. meaning she did oral, etc.. got oral, recieved oral etc... sketchy? =\

Her last boyfriend was in August of 2005 and thats the last time she did anything sexually at all.. so...

Anyway whats ur guys opinion now?

Btw, even though I only see her every 2 weeks, I talk to her everynight for like over an hour all the time. Since meeting me months ago, she stopped going out to clubs with her friends etc because shes like, the guys all rub up on you etc, Im not single anymore etc..and I love you..

Guys.. ugh

I just remembered something kinda embarassing for me.. that probably slipped out of her mouth in the heat of the moment...

She mentioned once that what she hated from her ex-bf was how his dick would always be like up her ass(not literally) but jammed near there or something because he slept so close to her.... Any comments about this? I know.. doesnt sound good at all.. lol =|

I really appreciate you guys helping me out with this shit.. I love you all in a non-gay.. but still somewhat sexual way. :cool:
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LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA @ the part the doctor didnt believe her... hahaahahahahah

Doctor: ummm... so i guess u just had sex.
girl: no im a virgin
Doctor: shut the fuck up...:O
girl: im serious im a virgin
Doctor: well, i guess you have a condition called ... ummm
*Danny Devitto pops his head out of her pussy*: its called wide set vigina doc!



anyways buddy.. best of luck with her. and about the dick jammd in her ass thing... ask her if she has a wide set asshole as well..?
 
Vaseline_Knight said:
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA @ the part the doctor didnt believe her... hahaahahahahah

Doctor: ummm... so i guess u just had sex.
girl: no im a virgin
Doctor: shut the fuck up...:O
girl: im serious im a virgin
Doctor: well, i guess you have a condition called ... ummm
*Danny Devitto pops his head out of her pussy*: its called wide set vigina doc!



anyways buddy.. best of luck with her. and about the dick jammd in her ass thing... ask her if she has a wide set asshole as well..?
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lol@DANNY DEVITO SHIT

=P

Dude..

honestly I dont wanna think about all this stuff anymore

im gonna be sleeping over at her house next week all week so ill fuck her, and i shall report back here..should be very interesting
 
Best of luck with that. She could be telling you the truth about being a virgin, but it sounds suspicious, so just be emotionally prepared if you in the future find out she is not what you thought she was.

For now, enjoy it man! Tear into that like Souray would blast one from the point on the PP.
 
Hi all, am a new member to this whole thing, and been following this thread, particularily Vas Knight's story, and it rang true for me.

Is good to see am not the only one, who deals with these types of ridiculous bitches, the slut issues.

AttacHydromaxent to bitches is generally not a good thing i have to admit, in my opinion it doesn't matter how educated they are, they are easily persuaded and dumbass in other respects. Still love them though!

My story, i was cheated on after 5 years sometime ago, which inspired me to go hard and develop myself, including my cock. I am approximately an 8' inch, but there is always more work to be done, and i'm not happy about reliablility.

My advice is don't be too hard on women, and don't ever expect anything good and lasting from them, instead accept what is given to you, and make other more important things high priority. And remember, bitches will always be sluts, the nature of courtship is they just open there legs, while the male has to do all the work+stalking generally, this leads them to having a high dumb fucked count.
 
talk to her about it.

if you don't, she'll make up her own reasons for why you're so cold and distant and before you know it you two will be having more serious problems.

besides, if you ask she'll tell.
talking it out beats any form of repression you can conjure up.
 
Don't listen to these fucking retards. If a girl loves you her past shouldn't matter, even if she fucked a ton of guys before you it is her past. You shouldn't feel like you need to know these things because of your own insecurities. Vaseline while I respect your opinion and I feel terrible that you got burned, it's a totally erroneous assumption that this guys girl will cheat on him or lie. If your not a complete loser you can tell when a girl loves you, all you have to ever worry about is if she fucks around, and if she does, fuck it, it wasn't meant to be and I garuntee that she'll regret it down the road if you were good to her. Stop living in the past and look forward to a great relationship my man.

-Best Wishes
P-Nutty
 
Just remember: the ultimate revenge is success. If she does end up cheating on you, just move on without looking back, find an even better girl, and I guarentee her conscience will get to her at some point in her life and she'll be pretty depressed. At that point, you will have found much better suiters, while she realizes she lost a great catch, and might not ever find one again.

One advantage that we men have is that we don't have girls crawling over us at clubs and bars, we get to select whomever we want to get, and we can decide past bad dates without even confronting the girl. Girls, however, must live with a lot of really bad guys hitting on them, wooing them, just wanting to sleep with them, etc. I generally think girls have to wade through a lot more trash than guys potentially have to, just because of man/woman nature in current society.
 
p-nutty said:
Don't listen to these fucking retards. If a girl loves you her past shouldn't matter, even if she fucked a ton of guys before you it is her past. You shouldn't feel like you need to know these things because of your own insecurities. Vaseline while I respect your opinion and I feel terrible that you got burned, it's a totally erroneous assumption that this guys girl will cheat on him or lie. If your not a complete loser you can tell when a girl loves you, all you have to ever worry about is if she fucks around, and if she does, fuck it, it wasn't meant to be and I garuntee that she'll regret it down the road if you were good to her. Stop living in the past and look forward to a great relationship my man.

-Best Wishes
P-Nutty
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First of all, I'd polish the tone if I were you. This is a respectable forum and we don't disrespect one another by calling others names.

With that said, you contradicted yourself and further proved my point.

it's a totally erroneous assumption that this guys girl will cheat on him or lie. If your not a complete loser you can tell when a girl loves you
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ok, so what if she loves him? that's not sufficient for her to keep her legs closed. Many girls cheat on men they deeply love. Some call it a mistake, some call it a wild night of fun, and some call it the 'whore instinct'.

Even you yourself agree with this. the very next sentences:

all you have to ever worry about is if she fucks around, and if she does, fuck it, it wasn't meant to be and I garuntee that she'll regret it down the road if you were good to her.
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That's exactly what I said my brother. Except, if you let down your guard and are not careful, then you get hit hard, and then it wont be so easy to just say 'fuck it'.

All I've been trying to tell this kid, and everyone else out there, is that they should watch out for themselves. Women make us seem like 'pigs' and assholes, whereas most of them are some of the most vile, deceptive creatures ever evolved. A wise man once said, "how can you trust a creature that waxes its genitals for leisure, and bleeds for a week without dying." :D


But my point stands, a whore is MUCH more likely to cheat on a guy, whether she 'loves' him or not, than a girl with moral values, nevertheless, a guy that's truely confident will play the game, and not be played by it. And you can only play this game, if you have your eyes open and know who and what you're dealing with. The whole 'wide set vagina' bullshit seemed like a load of crap. The only thing worse than a whore, is a lying whore.

other than that, do what you wish with your life. You may one day see my point more clearly than you do now.
 
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Vaseline_Knight said:
First of all, I'd polish the tone if I were you. This is a respectable forum and we don't disrespect one another by calling others names.

With that said, you contradicted yourself and further proved my point.



ok, so what if she loves him? that's not sufficient for her to keep her legs closed. Many girls cheat on men they deeply love. Some call it a mistake, some call it a wild night of fun, and some call it the 'whore instinct'.

Even you yourself agree with this. the very next sentences:




That's exactly what I said my brother. Except, if you let down your guard and are not careful, then you get hit hard, and then it wont be so easy to just say 'fuck it'.

All I've been trying to tell this kid, and everyone else out there, is that they should watch out for themselves. Women make us seem like 'pigs' and assholes, whereas most of them are some of the most vile, deceptive creatures ever evolved. A wise man once said, "how can you trust a creature that waxes its genitals for leisure, and bleeds for a week without dying." :D


But my point stands, a whore is MUCH more likely to cheat on a guy, whether she 'loves' him or not, than a girl with moral values, nevertheless, a guy that's truely confident will play the game, and not be played by it. And you can only play this game, if you have your eyes open and know who and what you're dealing with. The whole 'wide set vagina' bullshit seemed like a load of crap. The only thing worse than a whore, is a lying whore.

other than that, do what you wish with your life. You may one day see my point more clearly than you do now.
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Well P-nutty wasn't totally off, either. I guess his off-color comment was out of line, but otherwise....

I also agree with you Vaseline. Women have made a necessarily habit of lying, in my opinion. Almost an evolutionary thing, even. In the past when we held unchecked power over women, they risked literally dying or being bludgeoned to death if they said anything that displeased their mates or the larger male populace in general. Women being burned as witches, being stoned for adultery... you know the deal. Women are humans too, and let's face it - us guys are tempted to fuck around on our women at every turn! Who's foolish enough to think that women are actually different?? They are tempted too, and they make just as many mistakes as we do. I'm not saying that this excuses anything they do to jeopardize a relationship - I'm merely trying to analyze their situation by drawing parallels from our male perspective. Yeah - women are whores... just like us men. The only difference is that they have inherited this propensity for lying, thanks to the historical double standards that society holds for female sexuality and infidelity. I am not taking sides (if I were I'll have to admit that by virtue of my own self-interest I would probably side with the men), merely trying to offer different perspectives.


Check out some of these articles on infidelity. This is what 'bitches' (as one rather immature member said earlier in this thread) read and analyze to death - women are much more insecure about philandering partners than we are, and basically devote their whole being to relationships and in a sense, being an "extension" of a man. They're a great read and provide further insight into (in)fidelity in both men and women.


http://redbook.ivillage.com/sex/0,,9468kwqz,00.html
http://redbook.ivillage.com/sex/0,,bp71,00.html
http://lifestyle.msn.com/Relationsh.../ArticleRB.aspx?cp-documentid=917611&GT1=8506
 
Sorry dude but I looked it up and I found nothing for a "wide set vagina" on top of that I asked one of my friends who is a nurse (and a girl) and she said there is no such thing or at least she hasn't heard of it. I think that is total bullshit then. Either way, if she fucks like she has ANY clue what shes doing then guess what???????? Oh well, if your happy your happy.
 
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