The actual grip is very similar, in terms of a bottle-neck created by a crushing nature of a bib, and a expanding method of the MV. They both grip the internal structures. The MV primarily uses side wall compression, but will not crush the penis where it is attached, the vacuum is secondary. I have actually used both hangers. Unless the bib actually penetrated the penis where it attaches (literally), it would possibly exert more force? Are you serious? The bib attachment is not static, it slides until the structures in front of it stop it.jqsderrida said:I have no idea as to why, for so many, they cannot imagine the Bib exerting more force than any vacuum device is capable of, by design. The Bib is physically attached to the penis, it isn't 'sucking' your dick, as it were. The Bib actually grips internal structures in the penis - use it and you will understand what I'm talking about - and physically exerts force DIRECTLY upon them. Think about it.
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