Dating or Getting into a relationship with a EXOTIC DANCER?

Got a phat ass on her. Looks cute, nice skin. Not quite my type, but at the end of the day enjoy it my man, and get your moneys worth.

I remember going to Hollands red light district, and I've been to several other countries in Europe, and around the world from France, Italy, Serbia, Thailand.

They all seem to be very similar, in that you are the business, SHOCK, but as men we can get too simple about this, forgetting that the attention from her, is because of £$£$£$ and I dont blame them one second ... I encourage all women in this business to milk the men as much as they can, more so the wealthy ones.

I certainly spent allot of money in France on very high class dancers, that fucked literally all day and night! pity they dont actually like us English (xd) the sex was INCREDIBLE, and I lost count how many times I went out and fucked on that so called holiday, more a fuck-festival.

Here in Britain it has very good clubs for high end dancers, but I never do this anymore. Been to some in the capital, Birmingham, and Liverpool, Manchester. Need to be careful you use a proper club here in the UK, because otherwise you can end up in scraps with some of the shit that live around the area, staggering around drunk, and they see you with some hot lass and start shit.

LOTS of quality escorts though here in the UK, that you can scroll through online, many work independently and charge cheap rates. Last sex I had was in 2012 before being celibate, was with a gorgeous Hungarian escort that only cost me £170 for 2 hours of intense pleasure! I had a fierce appetite for eastern European pussy at one point, which is why I loved the influx of Polish, Romania, Czech, Slovak and god knows what else that came here for work .... and SEX!
Ya i was celibate for like 6 years focusing on my career now I got to make up for it. (like)
 
Ya i was celibate for like 6 years focusing on my career now I got to make up for it. (like)

In my opinion every man should learn to live with himself and not depend on a woman for sex for a period of time. This will teach you lessons that you cannot learn any other way and it will help you find things about yourself but you never knew. I’m celibate for life but there’s nothing wrong with being celibate for six months to see where it takes you. in my opinion every man should learn to live with himself and not depend on a woman or sex for a period of time. This will teach you lessons that you cannot learn any other way and it will help you find things about yourself that you never knew. I’m celibate for life but there’s nothing wrong with being celibate for six months to see where it takes you. Celibacy is not for everyone, most men should marry and have a wife and a wonderful life, but there are some like myself where I do a much better job without having to think about sex. Believe it or not it allows me to be very objective in the Brotherhood, I am sure Red can access to that. There’s nothing wrong or dirty about sex, it’s beautiful and God gave it to us to enjoy. But there’s also nothing wrong with remaining celibate, it all has to do with you and your future. There are too many benefits to even start listing them.
 
In my opinion every man should learn to live with himself and not depend on a woman for sex for a period of time. This will teach you lessons that you cannot learn any other way and it will help you find things about yourself but you never knew. I’m celibate for life but there’s nothing wrong with being celibate for six months to see where it takes you. in my opinion every man should learn to live with himself and not depend on a woman or sex for a period of time. This will teach you lessons that you cannot learn any other way and it will help you find things about yourself that you never knew. I’m celibate for life but there’s nothing wrong with being celibate for six months to see where it takes you. Celibacy is not for everyone, most men should marry and have a wife and a wonderful life, but there are some like myself where I do a much better job without having to think about sex. Believe it or not it allows me to be very objective in the Brotherhood, I am sure Red can access to that. There’s nothing wrong or dirty about sex, it’s beautiful and God gave it to us to enjoy. But there’s also nothing wrong with remaining celibate, it all has to do with you and your future. There are too many benefits to even start listing them.
very true words (clap)
 
@Big Schwanz Acht Damn right!

@Tornadocock, where are thou? ;) Everything going well?

@Jackxxx I came up with a silly question again! Favorite songs to strip off? LOL

Hey everyone sorry I haven't been on lately Just busy with some things and Tired most nights from working out.
I guess you guys want an update (like)

So I said in a previous post that I wanted to hit 250lbs and then maybe id go visit her again. Well i didn't hit 250lbs yet, but I hit 255 that is 25lbs in 3 weeks 3 days. So I said fuck it and went to visit her again. I have set a new goal to loose 25 more pounds in 3 weeks, so that will be 50lbs in 6 weeks maybe even 7 weeks.

As far for her don't think I am going to see her any more I'm gonna try and resist my urges plus I wanna see what happens if I stop going to see her see if anything changes. Besides this last time we had a lot of fun in the back room. She also had a suspicion that my dick was bigger (like) then last time and my responses was its probably from my weight loss :geek: .

I did tell her I would miss coming to see her and we had this little flirtatious last minute thing before I left, but we will see what happens I know she is going to try and get my back in there but I'm gonna try and resist the urge.
 
Great to hear from you @Tornadocock !
I am so glad of hearing the new you emerging.

That suspicion of a bigger dick sounds pretty cool! With the weight loss and PE exercises there's no doubt in my mind that you've grown.

Try to resist the urge, but if you're financially sound I see it's alright to treat yourself. Having little treats here and there keeps the mind going, for most of men anyhow. ;)
 
Great to hear from you @Tornadocock !
I am so glad of hearing the new you emerging.

That suspicion of a bigger dick sounds pretty cool! With the weight loss and PE exercises there's no doubt in my mind that you've grown.

Try to resist the urge, but if you're financially sound I see it's alright to treat yourself. Having little treats here and there keeps the mind going, for most of men anyhow. ;)
Well it's been incredibly hard ?and satisfying?. I haven't put this much effort into working out, and getting into shape since high school. When I realized that I had set that goal on my last post, I was 265 and a week later had lost 10 pounds and made it to 255, without throwing up into a toilet or starving myself. I realized that I got so much more in me ? and I woke up something that has been sleeping ? for along time.

Don't get me wrong everyday is an uphill struggle on dietary habits and stricter working out habits. Wanting to quit everyday I even occasionally look to my coworker at work and ask "WHY?". He looks at me and says you know why. ?

As for my P. E. Shit since I have been loosing the weight it's been more productive. Nothing like before.
 
As for my P. E. Shit since I have been loosing the weight it's been more productive. Nothing like before.

Awesome! Are you noticing more penis showing up outside the body? Have you seen a change in your erect bone pressed length?
 
Awesome! Are you noticing more penis showing up outside the body? Have you seen a change in your erect bone pressed length?
Yes I have! So when I measure after I do my session I can stretch it to 8.5 inches bone pressed but before my session bone pressed not stretching its 8 inches but I have also seen just the girth is more pronounced.

What I have noticed because I'm am loosing the fat above the pubic bone my pumping with my bathmate is more productive because I noticed after a session that it was harder to measure to the bone because I was getting fluid build up there because that fat is getting sucked in.
 
Yes I have! So when I measure after I do my session I can stretch it to 8.5 inches bone pressed but before my session bone pressed not stretching its 8 inches but I have also seen just the girth is more pronounced.

What I have noticed because I'm am loosing the fat above the pubic bone my pumping with my bathmate is more productive because I noticed after a session that it was harder to measure to the bone because I was getting fluid build up there because that fat is getting sucked in.

1/2” Gain! Awesome!!!!
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I bet her ass looks great wiggling around as she squats :) get your moneys worth, treat her with respect as I'm sure you do, and enjoy yourselves!
 
Get some pix up of that phat ass wobbling around all over the show, make the best outta it, and dont allow yourself to fall for her ... this is a fine business transaction, enjoy every last second of it brother.
 
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Get some pix up of that phat ass wobbling around all over the show, make the best outta it, and dont allow yourself to fall for her ... this is a fine business transaction, enjoy every last second of it brother.

Ya REDZULU2003 I am calling It quits I think I have had enough fun with her. I went to see her one last time as of next week I am going to be to busy for the next several months with a new rotation I have, which will not give me time to go to the club because I have early mornings which mean earlier bed times.

as far as all the Advice I received it has been beneficial I can't remember who said it she has a "RIDE OR DIE" I looked into it which wasn't to hard, he's currently serving time. Not sure for what or for how long, but ya he has 2 kids hes leaving behind which i believe are not hers which makes me believe she is his side chick.

But besides that I went to see her and with in a few minutes she came all over my DICK & Pants and I was like you know I have to still walk out of here (fail). Got home and threw my jeans and underwear in the wash, but otherwise loads of fun, its a big ✔ on my Bucket List. A shame that it has to end, but in reality it wasn't going to go anywhere.
 
Well done bro, at least your mature about it all, and have your emotions in check,
Allot of guys wouldn't be like this, so well done.
 
Well done bro, at least your mature about it all, and have your emotions in check,
Allot of guys wouldn't be like this, so well done.
Ya I'm easy going person I try not to judge or be judgemental, because you can't really know what people are going through or what they have had to endure, we sometimes do appreciate how easy we have it compared to others. But we usually like blaming others or complaining how hard we have it. Plus I knew this was a business agreement since I never had a free taste, or anything like that.
 
Ya I'm easy going person I try not to judge or be judgemental, because you can't really know what people are going through or what they have had to endure, we sometimes do appreciate how easy we have it compared to others. But we usually like blaming others or complaining how hard we have it. Plus I knew this was a business agreement since I never had a free taste, or anything like that.

What an awesome perspective! You are so right we have no idea what’s going on in the mind of those around us. We should never judge lest we be judged. My mother has always told me to be kind to those who have sins that show because we don’t know what type of situation they were born in. She also told me that some people’s sins show while others don’t, so never make a judgment in that way also. You’re very wise
 
What an awesome perspective! You are so right we have no idea what’s going on in the mind of those around us. We should never judge lest we be judged. My mother has always told me to be kind to those who have sins that show because we don’t know what type of situation they were born in. She also told me that some people’s sins show while others don’t, so never make a judgment in that way also. You’re very wise
Thanks DLD ?
 
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I feel that you've had a nice "growth spurt" in many senses @Tornadocock !
Sad to see something end, but then again many more opportunities and chances are waiting!

It was a nice piece of spicyness to read, I thank you for that! (And the pictures. :P )

On a whole another note: Where's @Jackxxx ?
 
I don't think she is gonna give up on trying to get me to come visit her but we'll see what happens. I will try and keep you guys updated on what is happening, its a shame that there might not be to much more content to post on here. But Ill try and see what I can provide (like).

Soon I will post some pictures of my progress I found some old pictures luckily on an old drive so i have before and after pictures.
 
Soon I will post some pictures of my progress I found some old pictures luckily on an old drive so i have before and after pictures.

That sounds fantastic! Nothing greater than having something to really compare to.
Looking forward to other stuff what you might be able to provide but most of all I'm excited of your gains and progress!
 
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Im also excited to share that Im back at my full PE routine whenever I had spare time, and I am using a technique that hopefully bring me some results on my ultimate barrier: The septum.

Instead of Hanging, I attach the Lengthmaster, sit back in the couch, and pull the cord with my legs to create the stretching tension. I use an electric warmer on top of my phallic apparatus the whole time, but what I have added now a new technique, and again, this is all purely experimental. Since I am low fat right now, I dig my fingers down in the very base of the penis, right where the ligament is attached to the pubic bone. Once located, I push down the lig right where it begins, creating that extra tension at the base. I started trying that the day before yesterday and so far I feel fatigue after the stretching session and some soreness the next day. After that I induce a 110% erection with PGE-1 and pump at low pressure for at least an hour to promote smooth muscle growth.
 
Soon I will post some pictures of my progress I found some old pictures luckily on an old drive so i have before and after pictures.

What great news you must feel so happy to find those pictures! I wish I could find my original pictures. Please get them out there so we can see the difference.
 
Im also excited to share that Im back at my full PE routine whenever I had spare time, and I am using a technique that hopefully bring me some results on my ultimate barrier: The septum.

Instead of Hanging, I attach the Lengthmaster, sit back in the couch, and pull the cord with my legs to create the stretching tension. I use an electric warmer on top of my phallic apparatus the whole time, but what I have added now a new technique, and again, this is all purely experimental. Since I am low fat right now, I dig my fingers down in the very base of the penis, right where the ligament is attached to the pubic bone. Once located, I push down the lig right where it begins, creating that extra tension at the base. I started trying that the day before yesterday and so far I feel fatigue after the stretching session and some soreness the next day. After that I induce a 110% erection with PGE-1 and pump at low pressure for at least an hour to promote smooth muscle growth.

Awesome. I was wondering what happened to you.

Allot of people use theraband or resistance bands as well to keep a constant stretch with the LM. The warmer is a great idea! You should try wearing a silisleev after exercise to stay stretched all day to heal while tissue is expanded, that really helps with cementing gains.
 
Awesome. I was wondering what happened to you.

Allot of people use theraband or resistance bands as well to keep a constant stretch with the LM. The warmer is a great idea! You should try wearing a silisleev after exercise to stay stretched all day to heal while tissue is expanded, that really helps with cementing gains.

Ive been thinking about that! Ill look into those sleeves.
 
What great news you must feel so happy to find those pictures! I wish I could find my original pictures. Please get them out there so we can see the difference.
Ya so happy I totally forgot to take before pictures.
I should have done the same when i hit my first short term goal.
It would have been nice to keep a log right from the beginning. (fail)
I'm hoping it will all sort it self out.
 
Ya so happy I totally forgot to take before pictures.
I should have done the same when i hit my first short term goal.
It would have been nice to keep a log right from the beginning. (fail)
I'm hoping it will all sort it self out.

I had the best proof in the world. I had a videotape of myself maybe a year before I did start PE. You could plainly see my size and you could tell it was exactly what I said it was 6 1/2“ x 4 and three-quarter inches. Now if I had that video tape today with my progress pictures it would be an amazing thing. Unfortunately the girl I was with found the tape and got insanely jealous and destroyed it. I’m glad you found your pictures lock them up LOL
 
I had the best proof in the world. I had a videotape of myself maybe a year before I did start PE. You could plainly see my size and you could tell it was exactly what I said it was 6 1/2“ x 4 and three-quarter inches. Now if I had that video tape today with my progress pictures it would be an amazing thing. Unfortunately the girl I was with found the tape and got insanely jealous and destroyed it. I’m glad you found your pictures lock them up LOL
Was she more jealous that she didn't get to try the dick you have now, or that she may have been on the tape lol.
 
Was she more jealous that she didn't get to try the dick you have now, or that she may have been on the tape LOL.

Nah, what is so crazy is it was Jen, and if you do not know the history of our relationship and the site I will give you a brief description. Jen was with me before I started MOS. She is kind of the reason I started MOS, because of her past (with over 100 dudes, the worst type of stripper, working hole in the wall clubs. She had some interactions with some pretty big dudes. I became jealous in so many ways.

She did not tell me at once about all the men. Nope, when I met her the history was she was with two guys. Every other day another memory would come back and she would remember another guy. This memory deal went on for months until we were into the 100s. It was a fucking nightmare relationship. She was insanely hot so I dealt with it.

The jealousy coupled with eq issues sent me off into the intranet. I am not sure how old everyone is but years ago there were newsgroups that resided on the intranet, this was before the internet existed but these groups were still very busy after the internet happened. I am sure @stillwantmore remebers as we met this way.

Anyway I found a news group from Dubai that was a picture group of non-nude-girls (BinHex downloads ?) I was posting pictures on one of the start up internet sites called something like NNboards.com. I found an article about penis enlargement that was in Arabic in one this newsgroup. The only problem was I don’t speak Arabic but the good news was I had a brother-in-law who was Muslim who was able to translate it for me.

The article was about three different exercises that were done every day for an hour and a half. The guy promised if you did these exercises you would get rockhard erections and you would enlarge your penis up to 4 inches in six months. I believed in the harder erections but I didn’t have much hope in the penis enlargement.

I remember I started a website for Jen called JustJen.com. This is when I met Still on the NNboards.com site, we both posted pictures of non-nude girls and we both had girlfriends who were non-nude models.

As all this was happening I was doing the Arabic PE program I downloaded (with some of my own exercises) and after 6 months I gained 2 inches! I was amazed and I did not know what to do. I went back online to try to find the original article so I could send the guy some money but I could not find it. So I started searching online for PE sites where I could discuss my gains. I found an online PE forum. I have no idea how @stillwantmore and I also met in the original PEforums.com too, hope he remembers ? but we were also together on the original PEforum. I joined and I posted my gains and no one believed me. I did have some progress pictures that proved some of my claim but I remained a controversial figure in the PE world.

Eventually Matters of Size opened and at the same time I continued doing Jen pictures. I closed her site and continued it in on MOS. I would shoot monthly updates and post them in the members area. Eventually what started out good ended badly. Penis envy was never so obsessively displayed than when she left me.

Everything shifted when I learned PE worked. I wanted to teach the world, and I did for a very long before MOS. Eventually I needed to make money as all I did was help people all day with pe, I became inundated, So MOS opened. It competed with her in some way. She thought all I cared about was MOS and I did not care for her. That cannot be farther from the truth, I loved her but I knew I needed to pursue PE with as much time as I could. Eventually the relationship ended because of an MOS. She gave me an ultimatum and it was either her or MOS and I chose MOS. I still have her letter she left talking about how much she was against PE and how she was going to go out and live a wholesome life style. Nigga please!

She was gone for about a month until she started to strip again. PE was so bad but her showing the world her pussy was cool. I detect hypocrisy!

She eventually came back but she was so broken that I had to let her go. She just was not the person that left me, she turned into something completely different. After about three months I kicked her out. Of course she went right back to stripping. I wonder what she is doing today? It’s been over 11 years.

So yes she destroyed the evidence that would prove my gains beyond a shadow of a doubt but she also inspired me to go out and find out about PE which ultimately led to MOS. All things happen for reason and God works in mysterious ways! I would not change a thing because the brotherhood means so much more to me than any relationship ever could. ❤
 
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Good golly, I'm not really sure @DLD about the how part of us meeting other than coincidences. I was with a girl named Jenny at the time. Similar themes in our lives then.
 
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Nah, what is so crazy is it was Jen, and if you do not know the history of our relationship and the site I will give you a brief description. Jen was with me before I started MOS. She is kind of the reason I started MOS, because of her past (with over 100 dudes, the worst type of stripper, working hole in the wall clubs. She had some interactions with some pretty big dudes. I became jealous in so many ways.

She did not tell me at once about all the men. Nope, when I met her the history was she was with two guys. Every other day another memory would come back and she would remember another guy. This memory deal went on for months until we were into the 100s. It was a fucking nightmare relationship. She was insanely hot so I dealt with it.

The jealousy coupled with eq issues sent me off into the intranet. I am not sure how old everyone is but years ago there were newsgroups that resided on the intranet, this was before the internet existed but these groups were still very busy after the internet happened. I am sure @stillwantmore remebers as we met this way.

Anyway I found a news group from Dubai that was a picture group of non-nude-girls (BinHex downloads ?) I was posting pictures on one of the start up internet sites called something like NNboards.com. I found an article about penis enlargement that was in Arabic in one this newsgroup. The only problem was I don’t speak Arabic but the good news was I had a brother-in-law who was Muslim who was able to translate it for me.

The article was about three different exercises that were done every day for an hour and a half. The guy promised if you did these exercises you would get rockhard erections and you would enlarge your penis up to 4 inches in six months. I believed in the harder erections but I didn’t have much hope in the penis enlargement.

I remember I started a website for Jen called JustJen.com. This is when I met Still on the NNboards.com site, we both posted pictures of non-nude girls and we both had girlfriends who were non-nude models.

As all this was happening I was doing the Arabic PE program I downloaded (with some of my own exercises) and after 6 months I gained 2 inches! I was amazed and I did not know what to do. I went back online to try to find the original article so I could send the guy some money but I could not find it. So I started searching online for PE sites where I could discuss my gains. I found an online PE forum. I have no idea how @stillwantmore and I also met in the original PEforums.com too, hope he remembers ? but we were also together on the original PEforum. I joined and I posted my gains and no one believed me. I did have some progress pictures that proved some of my claim but I remained a controversial figure in the PE world.

Eventually Matters of Size opened and at the same time I continued doing Jen pictures. I closed her site and continued it in on MOS. I would shoot monthly updates and post them in the members area. Eventually what started out good ended badly. Penis envy was never so obsessively displayed than when she left me.

Everything shifted when I learned PE worked. I wanted to teach the world, and I did for a very long before MOS. Eventually I needed to make money as all I did was help people all day with pe, I became inundated, So MOS opened. It competed with her in some way. She thought all I cared about was MOS and I did not care for her. That cannot be farther from the truth, I loved her but I knew I needed to pursue PE with as much time as I could. Eventually the relationship ended because of an MOS. She gave me an ultimatum and it was either her or MOS and I chose MOS. I still have her letter she left talking about how much she was against PE and how she was going to go out and live a wholesome life style. Nigga please!

She was gone for about a month until she started to strip again. PE was so bad but her showing the world her pussy was cool. I detect hypocrisy!

She eventually came back but she was so broken that I had to let her go. She just was not the person that left me, she turned into something completely different. After about three months I kicked her out. Of course she went right back to stripping. I wonder what she is doing today? It’s been over 11 years.

So yes she destroyed the evidence that would prove my gains beyond a shadow of a doubt but she also inspired me to go out and find out about PE which ultimately led to MOS. All things happen for reason and God works in mysterious ways! I would not change a thing because the brotherhood means so much more to me than any relationship ever could. ❤
Wow DLD that's intense story man it's sad ? that you couldn't work it out, but it sounds like she had a special place in your ♥. But obviously she wasn't good for you even though you put in the effort. It's amazing how much effort we put into relationships and put up with so much.
 
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Good golly, I'm not really sure @DLD about the how part of us meeting other than coincidences. I was with a girl named Jenny at the time. Similar themes in our lives then.

Maybe it was a much smaller world back then. Almost 20 years! Crazy right? So much has changed.
 
Wow DLD that's intense story man it's sad ? that you couldn't work it out, but it sounds like she had a special place in your ♥. But obviously she wasn't good for you even though you put in the effort. It's amazing how much effort we put into relationships and put up with so much.

I got the brotherhood out of the relationship and if is was only for that it would have been worth it. I sure did love her, and I still love her today but you guys meant much more to me when faced with an ultimatum. If God sees fit to bring her back in my life that will be awesome if not I’m all good.

I live a very peaceful happy life and I treasure my privacy and I have learned to live with myself and really love myself in the right way. I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t need a woman to help me feel complete. That’s not to say that a good woman could come along and make me a better person but it is what it is right now and I gotta make the best of that.

I have been thinking a lot about my wife who is been estranged for 20 years. I have fond memories of us when we were younger and I kind a wish she would call me. Who knows we’ll see what happens but as I said I live vicariously through you and my other brothers here.❤️?
 
I got the brotherhood out of the relationship and if is was only for that it would have been worth it. I sure did love her, and I still love her today but you guys meant much more to me when faced with an ultimatum. If God sees fit to bring her back in my life that will be awesome if not I’m all good.

I live a very peaceful happy life and I treasure my privacy and I have learned to live with myself and really love myself in the right way. I’ve gotten to the point where I don’t need a woman to help me feel complete. That’s not to say that a good woman could come along and make me a better person but it is what it is right now and I gotta make the best of that.

I have been thinking a lot about my wife who is been estranged for 20 years. I have fond memories of us when we were younger and I kind a wish she would call me. Who knows we’ll see what happens but as I said I live vicariously through you and my other brothers here.❤?

Well to be honest with you DLD this chick is hard working trying to transition out of that career into a real government job with benefits, Working 2 jobs right now I think she is hard working and dedicated, and trying to make a change. I want to say Loyal as well, but I think that term should be used loosely because there is a point where Loyalty becomes blinding of the truth. I think that her "Ride or Die" is one lucky S.O.B because he did something wrong and she is standing by his side as far as i can see. But its a numbers game and I say this because we are creatures of "Habit" and the numbers don't lie. Hes locked up for I don't know what & i don't know how long, but statistics don't lie, 68% of repeat offenders get locked up within 3 years & 77% get arrested with in 5 years, these numbers are from 2005. I think she can do better and should do better, but as the french say c'est la vie (that's life).

Ill stay in touch with her as long as I can or as long as she wants, but I have made peace with the fact that she may never see me more then a Client. That I think is what is most important to do so that at any point its easy to move on in any direction.
 
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