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According to your routines so far, you have three options to pursue: manual stretches for length, pumping for length and girth, or combo of manual stretches and pumping to achieve length and girth (but very slow).
Bathmate will only provide girth, no length. If it does provide length, it's extremely little, less than 3% of your total length. It's a tradeoff between length and girth as you use Bathmate.
For length, it's best to use manual stretches if you're on a very limited budget. You can even use a segment of a broomstick (used by our brother squirt_inducer_man and a few others with similar variations). It's a fulcrum stretching where you use the stick as a pulling point. DLD provides a pyramid type of stretch info under his DVD instruction in the Media instruction.
You can use the MityVac smaller cylinders (roughly 0.5 to 1cm larger than your erected girth to force the tissues to become elongated rather than expand as the body of the penis compresses against the cylinder wall.
After a few sets in the smaller cylinder, you can switch to a larger cylinder between 1.5cm to 2cm larger than your erect girth to get the girth going. This should only be done a few hours later. Too much pumping causes edema (fluid in the skin) to build up. Too much fluid in the skin can cause discoloration to the skin.
A very large note to take, because the cylinder has a hard edge, it can cause nerve kinking. A universal pump donut should be used to cushion the lip of the cylinder at the base of the penis, minimising and eliminating the nerve kink. Few brothers in the past suffered nerve kinking issues because they pumped too hard, with the cylinder lip/edge pressing down too hard.
Bathmate will only provide girth, no length. If it does provide length, it's extremely little, less than 3% of your total length. It's a tradeoff between length and girth as you use Bathmate.
For length, it's best to use manual stretches if you're on a very limited budget. You can even use a segment of a broomstick (used by our brother squirt_inducer_man and a few others with similar variations). It's a fulcrum stretching where you use the stick as a pulling point. DLD provides a pyramid type of stretch info under his DVD instruction in the Media instruction.
You can use the MityVac smaller cylinders (roughly 0.5 to 1cm larger than your erected girth to force the tissues to become elongated rather than expand as the body of the penis compresses against the cylinder wall.
After a few sets in the smaller cylinder, you can switch to a larger cylinder between 1.5cm to 2cm larger than your erect girth to get the girth going. This should only be done a few hours later. Too much pumping causes edema (fluid in the skin) to build up. Too much fluid in the skin can cause discoloration to the skin.
A very large note to take, because the cylinder has a hard edge, it can cause nerve kinking. A universal pump donut should be used to cushion the lip of the cylinder at the base of the penis, minimising and eliminating the nerve kink. Few brothers in the past suffered nerve kinking issues because they pumped too hard, with the cylinder lip/edge pressing down too hard.
If you gained that much in a few months, that's freaking awesome! It's slow for a sporadic 12-year period. It's phenomenal for just a few months after starting back up. You may be a splendid grower and become a shower (showing off your cemented long and large flaccid penis). Perfect for nude beaches and camps. I've been to a few of the mixed sex open air hotsprings, beaches, and camps. Let's just say some guys were packing crazy water hoses. You might end up be one of those guys.
That's one of the purposes of the silicone donuts. The thicker base one, not the skinny ones, provides comforts. I have three of them, one still sealed. The moment you expose the silicone to air, there will be discoloration of the silicone material. Two of mine look like they've been stained with yellow tint food coloring. Really weird.
Thick cushion version:
Thin version used for preventing cylinder's lip from cutting you:
See the difference on how thick the base is around the middle circle? The middle circle has a raised wall to seal with the base of the penis, and prevent your scrotum from being sucked up.
I use the pump donut to prevent the turkey's neck from being sucked up in the past as well. But to deal with the turkey's neck, best to do ball-and-socket stretches. It will minimize and prevent turkey neck formation as your penis grows. Most of us do it. As a side benefit, the longer scrotal sack will smack-smack-smack those sexy butt cheeks and clit to stimulate the lady based on positions.
If you focus heavily on training for length gains, you will gain length faster. You can train length and girth daily but you will gain quicker if you sort your length goal out first.
No worries. We'll just leave it here. I think we just have statements crossed wired somewhere, but the messages were understood.
I believe the blue one. The clear one needed to be ordered somewhere else. It doesn't hurt gains or creates less/more efficiency. It's just for protection purposes.
No. The shorter scrotal sac that rises up along with penile shaft is the main problem. Well, having too much slack skin also is also a problem. Problems, problems, everywhere we go. Just make sure you have enough scrotal sac slack to prevent the sac from being pulled along with the penile growth.
If you have too much lengthed sac, you can use a towel or a wrap to pull the sac back between your legs. Our brother, @huge-girth, can testify to his testicle trick.
The routine is great as a first 3 weeks of transition. The same exercises can be increased in the amount of heavier intensity or change out the exercises to keep the body guessing for the following 3 weeks. Keep changing things up every 2 fo 3 weeks. Don't remain static with the same combos of exercises. The bundled BTC should be used as one of the main core exercises.
As for you EQ, yes, it's very common to have pelvic floor fatigue if you do too much kegel exercises. Reduce the kegel and add reverse kegel into the mix. Reverse kegel is the relaxation and bearing down on the pelvic floor, as if you're pushing the pelvic floor to release your waste.
100 x 1-second kegel. Every kegel, alternate with a reverse kegel.
Add in a 5-second kegel in between each 2 1-second kegels. So, it looks like this:
1 x 1-second kegel. 1 x 1 second reverse kegel. 1 x 1-second kegel. 1 x 1 second reverse kegel. 1 x 5-second kegel. 1 x 5 second reverse kegel.
There needs to be balances. Kegel alone is not a good thing. It's like doing bicep workout without triceps.
As for you EQ, yes, it's very common to have pelvic floor fatigue if you do too much kegel exercises. Reduce the kegel and add reverse kegel into the mix. Reverse kegel is the relaxation and bearing down on the pelvic floor, as if you're pushing the pelvic floor to release your waste.
100 x 1-second kegel. Every kegel, alternate with a reverse kegel.
Add in a 5-second kegel in between each 2 1-second kegels. So, it looks like this:
1 x 1-second kegel. 1 x 1 second reverse kegel. 1 x 1-second kegel. 1 x 1 second reverse kegel. 1 x 5-second kegel. 1 x 5 second reverse kegel.
There needs to be balances. Kegel alone is not a good thing. It's like doing bicep workout without triceps.
For every direction of the bundling, the other direction is required. Since you are essentially doing twice the amount of time, don't over burden the tissues at the start. Ease in. 60 seconds is a good start for each rotation direction for the time being, be up, down, left right, outwards, BTC. If you feel the exercises become too much, ease back on the intensity until the tissues become more adoptive to exercises. It's better to slowly progress than to kill your penis on a fast pace method.
EQ fluctuates as the blood vessels adopt to new stresses. If you like to test the recovery time, give the penile tissues a two to three days rest. EQ will renounce. Pay attention to how much rest before tissues and blood vessels normalize.
During resting period, do make sure to keep the passive elongation wrap going. What you gained so far shouldn't be lost by ignoring preservation steps.
During resting period, do make sure to keep the passive elongation wrap going. What you gained so far shouldn't be lost by ignoring preservation steps.
Even veterans like us have fluctuating EQ during intense exercises, especially after pumping. Take our brother 9.5inchpro for example. He went as high as -20inHg and did hours of exercises at a time. Everyone has specific limits before their EQ "tank" or dip poorly until the blood vessels resume again.
Yes, when you're breaking down the tunica and septum fibrous meshes, including stressing the internal chambers, you're forcing the body to readopt new changes. New blood volume must occupy the expanded areas, new blood pressure the body has to maintain the erection quality, and even higher resources to expend (nitric oxide) to maintain specific blood cycling for a longer period of time. Your body and brain is going through a new period of reprogramming and adoption. The moment everything is cemented, that's the new level of adaptation. Notice the words being used. Adoption vs adaptation. We want the body and brain to keep guessing through the growth phases by adopting new stresses. The moment the body reaches adaptation stages, you might hit plateaus that requires break through. This is why it's important to keep the body and brain guessing to variable combinations of exercises.
Try a two-day on, one day off routine for now. Allow the body ease in during this period. Everyone is different when they perform PE routines. Some even use the one-day on, one-day off for a few weeks to ease in. Some of us are going crazy and do one-day on, two-day off. No matter what progressive method you use, gauge your recovery period. Don't rush.
Yes, you can also switch between length and girth exercises for an alternative day routine. Again, go easy on the exercises and the intensity. See what works best of your needs at this point in time. This is why logs are essential to keep track of the changes.