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Hello!

I have heard and read several times that you should not exceed 5hg.
How do i know i'm not doing that with the bathmate? I have the hydromax bathmate x30

I'm afraid of overdoing it with the bathmate. I have read that you should pump it to max (4-5 pumps), but that is way too intense for me.
I only put it on and pump 1 time for now and leave it on for 5minutes.

Any experienced pumper that has tryed both vacum and bathmate, and can somehow guess the approximately hg?
I just wanna make sure i'm being under or at 5hg tops.

Thank you!
 
This is only a guess, but I'm certain BM built-in some safeguards when they designed the gaiter on the original model...as far as the new Extreme models go, I'd only guess that they're able to exceed 5hg.

Both my X40 and Goliath models are modded with The VacuVin, and I'm certain that I'm over 5hg for the majority of my session, (and I know that I'm only one example, I've had no ill-effects from that amount of pressure).

You and I have different approaches to PE, so I'm not suggesting this is the best/only way to gain, I just know it's working for me
 
Big Schwanz Acht;706612 said:
This is only a guess, but I'm certain BM built-in some safeguards when they designed the gaiter on the original model...as far as the new Extreme models go, I'd only guess that they're able to exceed 5hg.

Both my X40 and Goliath models are modded with The VacuVin, and I'm certain that I'm over 5hg for the majority of my session, (and I know that I'm only one example, I've had no ill-effects from that amount of pressure).

You and I have different approaches to PE, so I'm not suggesting this is the best/only way to gain, I just know it's working for me

Ye, if i would approach PE like you i would do more harm than good to my penis. My penis is very sensitive.
Good it works for you.

I'm just trying to figure out this question you know, so i can use my bathmate in a way that works for my penis, or find out if the bathmate perhaps even isn't the correct tool for my penis.
I know you are supposed to measure HG on the measuring tape at the tube. It's said that the amount of millimeters you exceed your normal erection size is approximately the HG you are using.

I run a test and measured my bathmate with a straight ruler recently and found out something interesting. When i go in the bathmate nowadays i go in semi-erect (i have a curve, full erect is harder)
then i pump the bathmate 1 time, this will make my erection rapidly enter erection state and my penis measures about 13,5cm on the bathmate measuring tape, sometimes a bit more. This is exactly my NBPEL measurement on my ruler. To the point.. When i then measure
the whole bathmate device from bottom to top, even while resting the bathmate as it would be against my pubic bone, i measured that 13,5cm on the bathmate is 16,2cm on the normal ruler.
16,2cm is my actual BPEL measurement on the normal ruler. So if you pump 1 time, it is enough to cause a normal full erection logically speaking.
By this story itself i guess it answers to a lot of questions i had.

So lets say i give my bathmate a second pump, i bet that will tell me how much HG i'm using.
If the second pump goes way above 5HG, it means that the pump may be too much.
The theory is concluded from a lot of experienced pumpers if you do your reading, that keeping the HG at a maximum of 5, for longer periods instead if neccessary. Is the best way to add permanent gains, and avoid fluid retentions.
Fluid retentions is only counterproductive. If you just expand your penis like 0,2 cm regularly your penis will easier accommodate to this size, instead of expanding it with 1cm everytime. It's highly unlikly your penis can handle it, process
it and make it to real growth, other than producing fluid retentions instead, BECAUSE you use too high pressure. PE is a slow process and if you want to stay healthy and don't injure yourself, expanding 0,2cm or something each time would be much better and easier for the penis to handle and convert to real size.

As i'm one of those guys that measure almost everday, i know exactly how the penis grows.
It grows in very small increments. When you eventually recognize a 0,1+cm boost on your ruler/measuring tape, you know a gain is around the corner if you keep the same routine. Next day maybe the 0,1cm+ boost is gone, and the
next day it is back for maybe 2 days, and gone 1 day, eventually it's staying for 4days, eventually it gets permanent, and so on. This is the process of gaining. You don't notice stuffs like this if you only measure once in a month or
every third month. It's easier for the penis to process small gains like this, and when you edge your penis is actively processing it. If you would use too much pressure your penis will get bigger but softer. You need the blood supply
to support the gains to actually be usable and felt. You would create too big gap between smooth muscle and tunica.
 
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I use the BM gauge on my X40, (the accuracy of it vs. a ruler is irrelevant) and am able to ascertain my progress on a daily, (sometimes twice daily) basis by seeing if I've maintained what the previous mark was or exceeded it. This gives me current feedback on what's working and what's not. Now we've discussed FR and how it affects girth, but FR does nothing for length and that's my sole focus at this stage of my development. Several months ago I seemed to be stuck at 8.25" on the X40 BM gauge/sticker and it was only then that I discovered bundles and bundle stretches...this gave me a bit of a boost to 8.375" and since then I've upped my intensity and have been consistently hitting 8.50".

Clearly we are approaching the same goal from opposite viewpoints, (I'm firmly in the 'as much intensity as you can handle' camp while you're feeling 'light, gradual steps' are the way to go)...since PE is completely anecdotal, there's really no 'right way', only the way it works for each individual. I have no 'ego' attached to my routine and am always looking at variations that I can do to speed things up, it just so happens that I'm able to withstand an inordinate amount of pressure/intensity and for that I'm thankful
 
Yes, there are different type of penises that responds and works differently.
So i can't sit here and tell you what is right, because it could not be right for your penis.

As long as no one is hurting his penis and are making progress regarding EQ and size there is no problem.
 
habban;706637 said:
As long as no one is hurting his penis and are making progress regarding EQ and size there is no problem.

What do you mean Habban?
 
doublelongdaddy;706663 said:
What do you mean Habban?

I mean that everyone should feel free to do PE however they want, and the correct method how you approach is when you gain in size and EQ while not causing any injuries.
The goal is to create a bigger and healthier penis right?
 
habban;706673 said:
I mean that everyone should feel free to do PE however they want, and the correct method how you approach is when you gain in size and EQ while not causing any injuries.
The goal is to create a bigger and healthier penis right?

As long as the approach is safe is a right answer habban. Some newbies don't even know it but they could be injuring themselves!
 
habban;706673 said:
I mean that everyone should feel free to do PE however they want, and the correct method how you approach is when you gain in size and EQ while not causing any injuries.
The goal is to create a bigger and healthier penis right?

Perfectly worded and completely correct.
 
kyomoto;706809 said:
Habban is an expert in PE. He is one of the new mentors :cool:

It really boils-down to the fact that we need to experts of our own PE...my routine will be different than anyone else's and learning what works for me is 100% trial and error. Having the MOS resources to pick/choose what's successful and what's not is where I believe the 'gold' resides.
 
Big Schwanz Acht;706869 said:
It really boils-down to the fact that we need to experts of our own PE...my routine will be different than anyone else's and learning what works for me is 100% trial and error. Having the MOS resources to pick/choose what's successful and what's not is where I believe the 'gold' resides.

Well the basic principles are in SRT which cover length and girth in all different ways to gain.
Length: Tunica, ligaments, and internal stretching
Girth: Tunica, expansion, blood flow, and pressure
 
kyomoto;706875 said:
Well the basic principles are in SRT which cover length and girth in all different ways to gain.
Length: Tunica, ligaments, and internal stretching
Girth: Tunica, expansion, blood flow, and pressure

Basics...exactly that. We each should take ownership of our own routines and understand how we all respond differently to different exercises...there's absolutely no 'right way', (there are plenty of 'wrong ways, tho') when it comes to PE...there are basic building blocks from which to learn/grow
 
Big Schwanz Acht;706886 said:
Basics...exactly that. We each should take ownership of our own routines and understand how we all respond differently to different exercises...there's absolutely no 'right way', (there are plenty of 'wrong ways, tho') when it comes to PE...there are basic building blocks from which to learn/grow

Mhm thats why i used the word "basics"
We can add so many more principles and ideas
 
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