Commodore;677781 said:
For various reasons. Were steroids worth it for Arnold? Yes! Were they worth it for everyone who has ever taken steroids...no
Which hormone (HGH or TEST) is more inportant for PE if you had to choose and why?
For various reasons. Were steroids worth it for Arnold? Yes! Were they worth it for everyone who has ever taken steroids...no
Commodore;677799 said:
How would we have a better world without steroids available?
Commodore;677805 said:
I understand your point but the world is fine if adults playing a game that even children play want to take steroids to play that sport better and longer and to make more money for themselves. They're adults...let them do what they want I say. I think it varies by sport though. Let baseball players take steroids. All they are doing is hitting and throwing a ball. Now football, boxing, MMA, those are different stories b/c the greatly increased strength that comes with steroids can lead to worse injuries. Bodybuilding, let them do steroids. It is their own body. If people can smoke cigarettes, steroids shouldn't be illegal. The law needs to stop controlling what people do with their bodies. Track and field, let them juice!
Cheating in sports has created an unnecessary stigma around steroids. Make it legal so it is easier to get high quality test and hgh.
Commodore;677544 said:He has never sad anything positive or something intelligent, i think he is in a bad mood
Roid-rage I reckon.
youknowme123321;677813 said:
yea well i am being litle bit simple here in my last posts.. writing fast while watching tv, let my explain my point.
- If i were president of the whole world tomorrow, would i ban steroids ? NO i would never do that.
- i would problably legalice all drugs and put the coverment to deal thouse and get a real control of this stuff.
- but i would be 100% hard on most sport about this steroid thing, random tests and be more focus on clean up the sports from this.
- I would never ban steroids from Bodybuilding.
Ok.....
But if i would be God tomorrow, what would i do then ?
- i would go back in time and change things a litle bit.
- Steroid would never existed, the drug steroid would come in another form so the patients would get the medicine but there would be no huge Bodybuilders.
- Drugs like alcohol, cigareetes, cocaine and all this stuf would not existed B/c we do not need that shit.
- Cannabis.. now... Cannabis makes this post difficult for me b/c i look at it as a medicine, i do not use it much but i have done it for my neurological disese i do it if a am very sick (that happens like once every month) but i do it 1 of every 10 times for fun, or 3 of every 10 times for fun.. So it's a medicene
we do not ban this.Thinking about No bear with footbal, that does not sound good but the thing is with alcohol,cicarettes,all bad drugs and steroids we would never know what thouse things are so the world would be different.
I did use bad drugs for many years, i like some of thouse drugs so much i think about them every bloody day.
I do not use this any more b/c i am on my focus/tough/iamtheman era. i can see how things are much better with out this shit.
I will use drugs in future i know that b/c i am just that man like most of us maybe and we live in this drug world so here we are and this is how the world goes.
The thing about steriods.. i used them back in the day, and i know very well how this stuff works. I was very strong and tough, i felt like nobody could touch me and i was just so bad as, but when the years go by i could see how my personality was not goin in that derection that i wanted to. I think most man would be very strong minded and though at first but in the end all of thouse that are not taken this stuff grow bigger as a persone. so my point is in the end it is not worth it.
but i will say that maybe some man thrive better on steroid all there live and if guys here think that then so be it, they could be right.
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If you guys think NFL guys don't take steroids you're blind XD. All that's shits entertainment anyway who cares, its all fixed too
Commodore;677826 said:yea well i am being litle bit simple here in my last posts.. writing fast while watching tv, let my explain my point.
- If i were president of the whole world tomorrow, would i ban steroids ? NO i would never do that.
- i would problably legalice all drugs and put the coverment to deal thouse and get a real control of this stuff.
- but i would be 100% hard on most sport about this steroid thing, random tests and be more focus on clean up the sports from this.
- I would never ban steroids from Bodybuilding.
Ok.....
But if i would be God tomorrow, what would i do then ?
- i would go back in time and change things a litle bit.
- Steroid would never existed, the drug steroid would come in another form so the patients would get the medicine but there would be no huge Bodybuilders.
- Drugs like alcohol, cigareetes, cocaine and all this stuf would not existed B/c we do not need that shit.
- Cannabis.. now... Cannabis makes this post difficult for me b/c i look at it as a medicine, i do not use it much but i have done it for my neurological disese i do it if a am very sick (that happens like once every month) but i do it 1 of every 10 times for fun, or 3 of every 10 times for fun.. So it's a medicene
Thinking about No bear with footbal, that does not sound good but the thing is with alcohol,cicarettes,all bad drugs and steroids we would never know what thouse things are so the world would be different.
I did use bad drugs for many years, i like some of thouse drugs so much i think about them every bloody day.
I do not use this any more b/c i am on my focus/tough/iamtheman era. i can see how things are much better with out this shit.
I will use drugs in future i know that b/c i am just that man like most of us maybe and we live in this drug world so here we are and this is how the world goes.
The thing about steriods.. i used them back in the day, and i know very well how this stuff works. I was very strong and tough, i felt like nobody could touch me and i was just so bad as, but when the years go by i could see how my personality was not goin in that derection that i wanted to. I think most man would be very strong minded and though at first but in the end all of thouse that are not taken this stuff grow bigger as a persone. so my point is in the end it is not worth it.
but i will say that maybe some man thrive better on steroid all there live and if guys here think that then so be it, they could be right.
Okay cool.
templnite;677828 said:
Neither of us said football players don't use steroids
MoreThanLuck;677160 said:
This bpc-157 might be counter productive by making the tendons stronger and making it harder to gain length in the ligs. And I dont suggest steriods or hgh. Hgh in high or uncontrolled doses can cause stomach, facal, and other kinds of unwanted growth. Plus why chance fucking up the normal cycle of your body.
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GirthGains;677892 said:
The amount of HGH you would have to take to make your facial features larger is staggering. Most do 1-3 IU for Longevity purposes. You would have to do 6 IU + to get bone growth and most people can't afford 1 IU, much less 6 IU per day.
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deadwood187;677735 said:
Oh and deadwood show a little more respect around here. This forum is for brotherhood and education not for disrespect and or argument.
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GirthGains;677894 said:
Thanks for pointing that out. However since you did point that out have you ever had PERSONAL experience with either substance you are yapping about. If not then I guess maybe you should quietly walk out huh tough guy?
MoreThanLuck;677160 said:
No i have not but i have researched about it and talked to other people that try steriods. I was told if you wanna build muscle with steriods you should do 1 month cycle while taking milk thistle and take a year off. Cause you only get so big then you gain more strength then size after awhile. Plus better for your body then longer cycles. Go to youtube and type in hgh abuse in bodybuilding. Click on the first video with the bodybuilder talking about hgh gut. I heard about it enough were I don't need to try it. But you can go ahead try it if your that into it and wanna know for some odd reason it works out different on you then other people.. I think i may have heard a little more girth on hgh once. But that could have been just from erection equality or other factors. Plus I read that on a bodybuilding forum. Which can be very misleading.deadwood187;677895 said:
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GirthGains;677898 said:
So basically it would be like me interjecting as an expert about flying a plane while pilots talk but never actually having flown a plane? See how fucking stupid that is?
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Say what you want about deadwood, but he at least got something upstairs ya feel me *raspect mahn*
Deadwood makes a valid point even if he doesn't understand how to communicate properly. HGH will only cause symptoms like HGH-gut and bone growth at higher dosages. Note that we make HGH every single night we go to sleep. It's not uncommon to have this in your body. Higher than normal dosages will help your body overall. Like anything else, too much of a seemingly good thing can be bad. Now that we all have a good grasp that HGH or test won't help in PE, I'm positive we can all move on like the intelligent and well adjusted human beings I know you all to be. 😁
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MoreThanLuck;677924 said:
The only way to communicate with hysterical people is to slap them in the face to calm them down. I thought the hysterics about Anabolics was done with in the 80's...but I guess not. You have guys responding with 100% compete BS and all of them have zero experience with both HGH and Anabolics. Taken responsibly, they are no where near the worst thing you can put in your body. I can think of 100's of worse drugs you can use...like oxycodone, adderal etc. To get some of the side effects people talk about you would have to take enormous amounts. Stallone has been taking both anabolics and HGH at massive amounts for 3+ decades. His hands are scary, but he seems fine. John Cena and Brock Lesnar both take massive amounts of HGH, their brains aren't fried. etc. Facts are facts. Spouting BS is just harmful to everyone.
deadwood187;677936 said:
Hysterical people are just regular uninformed people that have a relatively strong opinion due to an innate fear of the unknown. Remember that not everyone has done them like you (I presume), and I have. Seeing is truly believing. Some people will never see, and just believe all the scaryness that surrounds them without actually looking into the 'why' of things. Some you can't convince even if you show them perfectly sound evidence to the contrary, and that's okay. The truth only starts to become acceptable when there is a need for it. Doesn't make them any less deserving of respect. We're all still human here.
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I know roids are good for Barry bonds, and other kinds of steroids are good for asthmatics. The thing I don't get is why do you want that, because it makes you buff? Nobody needs to get that strong unless you're one of those genetically augmented soldiers. Even then you can be caught lackin <
ok deadwood I was just saying that I don't see the positive effects of injecting outweigh the negative effects it could and does cause. Why don't do what you want with injections and come back with the results or whom ever else. I would be happy to hear the results. Heck if you make big gains I'm sure Ill do a few injections myself. But I never heard of anyone growing a big penis from injections .
.True. I get it if taking this stuff can make you a large amount of money. I wouldn't do it for money myself but if you're an adult go for it as long as it won't cause harm to someone like can happen in contact sports like football, hockey, or MMA.GirthGains;677892 said:
Can someone explain clearly what happens to your penis with test or hgh. I would except hgh would work better if it increases the penis. Or maybe both. If i was gonna take test. I would probably only do 1 month then take a year off. Then take a month of tongkat ali. Or a product from poppeyes supplements like thrust.its made from the company magnum(capsules). It has pro hormones that tells your balls to produce. Testostrone. Plus it has tongkat ali and other ingredients in it i believe. I did try one bottle of that along with another product from the same company to increase hgh and sleep time. Boy those two products were decent. Im 25 and after one month i felt 19. It also gave me a better flaccid hang. But anyways i would do injects roids for one month, 1 month pro-horomones with. The other supplement to increase hgh during sleep. Then after that cycle was done. I would go on controled lower dose hgh injects. Along with hardcore pe and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]srt[/words] invovled. Thats what I would like to try. I would love to learn more about chem injection pe for better gains if possible from anyone. Im not hating on anyone Ill sit and listen.
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GirthGains;677994 said:
You're 25 and still in your prime. I wouldn't take test unless you needed it. It is said that every year a man loses 1% of his natural testosterone production starting in his 30's. This is approximate, as I started feeling different around 27-28. That being said, if you do want to take it you can take it by itself or (if you want to use a steroid you have to use test with it to have some semblance of normality due to your body shutting down its own production temporarily). The cycles typically run 8-10 weeks followed by a post cycle therapy which brings your natural production back online. I don't know anything about tongkat ali, though a typical way of bringing back production is through HGC (by stimulating your testes directly), clomid (preventing estrogen from building up, and allowing your test production to come up), or novidex (works similarly to clomid). Now that has been said, this cycle will only be for body building. Test and HGH cannot and will not do anything for increasing the size of your penis. There has been many an effort to attempt to use these solutions for this reason without any results.
The reason people would want to use HGH is for its age defying benefits. It helps build lean muscle, not by increasing the size of the musculature that already exists, but by actually creating new muscle (this can take over a year to see real results). This in turn increases your fat burning capability, which increases metabolism. It also benefits the skin by increasing cell turnover. Effectively making you appear younger. Its the fountain of youth. Taken in the right dosages you won't have any of those side effects. Again, this won't do anything for the size of your junk. If it did I would be DLD's size or bigger by now. 😁
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GirthGains;677994 said:
1.Nothing happens to your penis on steroids. Your testicles may get "deflated" due to atrophy but they will return to normal once your hormone levels stabilize once off
2. Once you are beyond puberty HGH will have ZERO effect on penis size. It does increase blood flow and increases erections to rock hard proportions which causes some people to believe "it grew". It doesn't. It just reaches maximum potential as blood flow to the penis during an erection is at its maximum output. No scientifc study proves HGH causes penis growth. The only penis growth occurred when pre pubescent HGH deficient boys were given HGH (Effect of human growth hormone therapy on penile and testicular size in boys with isolated growth hormone deficiency: first year of treatment.Isr J Med Sci. 1983 Apr;19(4):338-44.)
And no offense from your post you seem pretty immature and ill informed to be fooling around with hormones. At "25 you felt 19"...LMFAO. There is no difference in those ages unless they are slaving you in a coal mine. Anyways, neither will increase your penis size and at 25 stay the fuck off them. I was on them because I play pro sports. Now I have to stay on them to be "normal". If I was a regular 25 year old I would never fuck with my hormone levels.
MoreThanLuck;677160 said:
What i mean i felt like 19 again because i felt more aaggressive, stronger, and energetic. But yeah im gonna avoid them tell i need them.
I agree with your comment and that's why this stuff is not really talked about here. This is the first time I'm coming across it here.