The phallosan and the xl bell

[Fillerup]

Gentlemen, I'm preparing to order a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words], but I have a question as to proper sizing. I know the kit comes with 3 sizes and some extra sleeves. But I'm pretty damn sure the small bell will be too small. The medium may fit, and I'm sure the large will work. The issue is this: If I get up in the morning and do a length routine, and then put on the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], that's one thing. But what if it's, say, evening and I do a heavy girth workout, incorporating clamping, the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words], etc. Afterwards, my unit is pretty heavy and thick, so likely the same size bell is not going to fit. So what do you do? Alternate between different bells and sleeves, depending on whether it's a girth day or not? And lastly, how do I know if I need the XL size bell or not? Is there some way to measure, to be sure? If I'm going to order the system, and need the XL, I may as well order both at the same time, right? Hope some of you experienced users can chime in and offer some advice so I can get my order in ASAP. PS...I wrote the company 3 days ago asking the same questions, but got no reply. Thanks much!

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[Big Schwanz Acht]

I've been considering the PF and have the exact concerns...I'm curious if they could give us a choice? Or a large bell and two XL's? That'd be ideal I'd think

 

[Chaoskampf]

What I do is I wrap the penis a little bit tight. Then it fits. 14.5cm=5.7" around the glans qualifies for something which is larger than the XL bell, especially when pumped. I don't think that anybody would want to rotate between bells because you have to switch the systems quite often. The spring system is made from flexible plastic and I fear that it might break soon if you switch the bells all the time.

The internal diameter of the larger bells are: 3.8cm=1.5" (Large) and 4.2cm=1.65" (XL). That gives a maximum girth of 11.9cm=4.7" (Large) and 13.2cm=5.2". Therefore a penis glans of 6" requires a 4.85cm bell. Sounds like a 3XL bell to me.

 

[Lookn4girth]

What I do is I wrap the penis a little bit tight. Then it fits. 14.5cm=5.7" around the glans qualifies for something which is larger than the XL bell, especially when pumped. I don't think that anybody would want to rotate between bells because you have to switch the systems quite often. The spring system is made from flexible plastic and I fear that it might break soon if you switch the bells all the time.

The internal diameter of the larger bells are: 3.8cm=1.5" (Large) and 4.2cm=1.65" (XL). That gives a maximum girth of 11.9cm=4.7" (Large) and 13.2cm=5.2". Therefore a penis glans of 6" requires a 4.85cm bell. Sounds like a 3XL bell to me.

Chaos, are you not using the glans cap that comes in the kit? What are you using to wrap with for the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]? If you posted this somewhere I must have missed it. I use the glans cap and it seems to compress the glans a little but it does not make it to the shaft

 

[Fillerup]

I've been considering the PF and have the exact concerns...I'm curious if they could give us a choice? Or a large bell and two XL's? That'd be ideal I'd think

I doubt you're going to get them to do a switch for you. I appears this comes as a kit and, according to them, the price point is fixed knowing that one or two of the bells (and sleeves) will not fit. I quote from a recent email I got from them: "In our base package we have 3 different sizes for the cup, as we donÂ’t know, which will fit for the customer, the customer can take the one, which is the right size for him, the others you will not use, but you donÂ’t pay for those other 2, as the package has a special total price, if you would order all different parts separately, it would cost much more." So there ya go!

One of the things that concerns me is the size of the bells. Either my math is bad or something is wrong. According to their website, and the post by "Chaoskampf", the large bell is 37.5 mm diameter or, 11.9 cm circumference (maximum). For the new XL, the diameter is 42 mm diameter, or 13.2 cm circumference (maximum). Well, that's fucked!!! I mean, I had a girth workout last night and today, more than 12 hours later, the diameter of my penis head, at the glans, is 42.7 mm and 14 cm around. That exceeds the size of the XL bell. Now, I've been doing PE for many years, and yes, I've had some success. But I am by no means inordinately large. To be exact...8.5" BPEL and 6" mid girth. It's large I guess, but not excessively, as lots of guys on this forum are that big or bigger. The only thing I can think of is that the Penis head can be compressed a bit to fit the bell. In fact, in Lookn4girth's comment, (who uses the system) he states, "I use the glans cap and it seems to compress the glans a little but it does not make it to the shaft." So, maybe with the extra compression, it will fit ok.

 

[Fillerup]

I have a proposition. What I'm going to do is order the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words] AND the XL bell. If for some reason the XL is too bit and I'll never use it, I'm sure there will be other [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] users out there who can use it, and might be willing to buy mine at a good discount or, as an option, maybe trade one of their bells and sleeves. This could work well for everyone, saving us money both in product and shipping. I'm positive, for example, that I will never use the small and maybe not even the medium bells. But there are those out there who will, so I could trade my small or medium for their large or, alternatively, they could buy my small and/or medium for considerably less than ordering direct from the company. Everybody wins!

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[Fillerup]

The other issue I haven't addressed is this: The penis head (and shaft) after a girth workout is substantially larger than normal. I hate to say it, but maybe girth work might have to be put on hold if you want to use the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] on a consistent basis without constantly adjusting for expansion due to girth work. In one of their emails to me, they said, and I quote, "We don’t recommend to use other methods of enlargement." So again, [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] users....LET'S HEAR FROM YOU!

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[Lookn4girth]

I doubt you're going to get them to do a switch for you. I appears this comes as a kit and, according to them, the price point is fixed knowing that one or two of the bells (and sleeves) will not fit. I quote from a recent email I got from them: "In our base package we have 3 different sizes for the cup, as we donÂ’t know, which will fit for the customer, the customer can take the one, which is the right size for him, the others you will not use, but you donÂ’t pay for those other 2, as the package has a special total price, if you would order all different parts separately, it would cost much more." So there ya go!

One of the things that concerns me is the size of the bells. Either my math is bad or something is wrong. According to their website, and the post by "Chaoskampf", the large bell is 37.5 mm diameter or, 11.9 cm circumference (maximum). For the new XL, the diameter is 42 mm diameter, or 13.2 cm circumference (maximum). Well, that's fucked!!! I mean, I had a girth workout last night and today, more than 12 hours later, the diameter of my penis head, at the glans, is 42.7 mm and 14 cm around. That exceeds the size of the XL bell. Now, I've been doing PE for many years, and yes, I've had some success. But I am by no means inordinately large. To be exact...8.5" BPEL and 6" mid girth. It's large I guess, but not excessively, as lots of guys on this forum are that big or bigger. The only thing I can think of is that the Penis head can be compressed a bit to fit the bell. In fact, in Lookn4girth's comment, (who uses the system) he states, "I use the glans cap and it seems to compress the glans a little but it does not make it to the shaft." So, maybe with the extra compression, it will fit ok.

Fill, you have a problem that I hope to have one day, 8.5 x 6, that is some impressive measurements there. Based on your measurements, it would not seem that you would be able to fit the large or XL and that is a hefty investment for something that you are not able to fit in. The glans cap does compress your head some but I can not say with certainty that it would be enough for you and if it did, how long it would be effective if you are continuing to grow. Chaos may chime back in to tell you what his wrapping technique is that may be something that would work for you

 

[Fillerup]

OK, bit the bullet and placed my order. Also ordered the XL bell, just in case. At my age, I don't have a lot of time to waste LOL!

 

[Fillerup]

Fill, you have a problem that I hope to have one day, 8.5 x 6, that is some impressive measurements there. Based on your measurements, it would not seem that you would be able to fit the large or XL and that is a hefty investment for something that you are not able to fit in. The glans cap does compress your head some but I can not say with certainty that it would be enough for you and if it did, how long it would be effective if you are continuing to grow. Chaos may chime back in to tell you what his wrapping technique is that may be something that would work for you

Bear in mind that this measurement was after a pretty intense girth session (12 hours later). Also, as you pointed out, the caps cause some compression and will allow a better fit. If this doesn't work, I may, as I pointed out, have to suspend girth work for a while. We'll see soon enough. Order is on it's way.

 

[Lookn4girth]

If I may offer a suggestion. I wear my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] all day for at least 8 hours and then do my girth session at night. I have not been wearing the PF to sleep in as of yet so it works out pretty well. My longest set with the PF was 11 hours but on average it is about 8. I did try to wear it one night after a girth session and had to use the large sleeve but after a couple of hours I started losing that post pump expansion and it started to slip

 

[Chaoskampf]

I don't use the protector cap because it brakes after one week. The same for third party caps. Also it can be very annoying to put on. And it rolls between glans and foreskin which can be very annoying.

Fillerup I know that 6" still seems to be normal but too few have really gone beyond, especially at the tip. Also all of you know that the glans can be compressed to fit inside the bell. It is actually better so you have more friction on the wall which comes from the glans trying to expand back to normal.

For all those people who think that XL is not enough: Swiss Sana is not for freaks. If you need something better just look for custom made gear. Meanwhile if the glans is bloated, try to screw it into the bell. Some babypowder helps on the walls.

 

[Lookn4girth]

I don't use the protector cap because it brakes after one week. The same for third party caps. Also it can be very annoying to put on. And it rolls between glans and foreskin which can be very annoying.

Fillerup I know that 6" still seems to be normal but too few have really gone beyond, especially at the tip. Also all of you know that the glans can be compressed to fit inside the bell. It is actually better so you have more friction on the wall which comes from the glans trying to expand back to normal.

For all those people who think that XL is not enough: Swiss Sana is not for freaks. If you need something better just look for custom made gear. Meanwhile if the glans is bloated, try to screw it into the bell. Some babypowder helps on the walls.

I would tend to think that 6" at the tip is not that common even here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]

 

[Fillerup]

I don't use the protector cap because it brakes after one week. The same for third party caps. Also it can be very annoying to put on. And it rolls between glans and foreskin which can be very annoying.

Fillerup I know that 6" still seems to be normal but too few have really gone beyond, especially at the tip. Also all of you know that the glans can be compressed to fit inside the bell. It is actually better so you have more friction on the wall which comes from the glans trying to expand back to normal.

For all those people who think that XL is not enough: Swiss Sana is not for freaks. If you need something better just look for custom made gear. Meanwhile if the glans is bloated, try to screw it into the bell. Some babypowder helps on the walls.

I'll keep that in mind about the protector caps. If they break that easy, swiss sana needs to know about it (I'm sure they must!). As for girth, to clarify, I'm 6" ERECT, MID SHAFT, so not at the tip and not erect. I just measured the ridge of the glans and whereas it was 14 cm this morning, it's now down to 13.5. So the girth and pump workout from last night is beginning to fade. I think I can make this work, because as you said, head can be compressed some, and that's even better. The only difficulty might be using the system after a girth workout. May have to alter my routine somewhat.

 

[Fillerup]

If I may offer a suggestion. I wear my [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] all day for at least 8 hours and then do my girth session at night. I have not been wearing the PF to sleep in as of yet so it works out pretty well. My longest set with the PF was 11 hours but on average it is about 8. I did try to wear it one night after a girth session and had to use the large sleeve but after a couple of hours I started losing that post pump expansion and it started to slip

How long have you been using the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words], and have you made any progress?

 

[Lookn4girth]

I have been using it about a month. I can't say for sure that the PF is solely responsible for my measurements as I also use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] but the last time I took a measurement I was up 1/4" in less than a month. I plan to measure in December and this will tell me how well my routine is working.

 

[Fillerup]

I have been using it about a month. I can't say for sure that the PF is solely responsible for my measurements as I also use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] but the last time I took a measurement I was up 1/4" in less than a month. I plan to measure in December and this will tell me how well my routine is working.

Excellent! Congratulations. It's only 1/4 inch, but hey, if you did that in less than a month, and the process continues? Well, you've done the math I'm sure. I wish you success, and I think you're well on your way!

 

[Lookn4girth]

Excellent! Congratulations. It's only 1/4 inch, but hey, if you did that in less than a month, and the process continues? Well, you've done the math I'm sure. I wish you success, and I think you're well on your way!

Thank you Fill, I plan to keep working at it. I think you will like the PF. It allows all day stretching with no effort other than taking it off to pee and putting it back on

 

[DLD]

I have been using it about a month. I can't say for sure that the PF is solely responsible for my measurements as I also use the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] but the last time I took a measurement I was up 1/4" in less than a month. I plan to measure in December and this will tell me how well my routine is working.

Congratulations on the gain! This is very quick and I hope it continues. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is awesome.

 

[Lookn4girth]

Congratulations on the gain! This is very quick and I hope it continues. The [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] is awesome.

Thanks D, I have taken the measurement 3 times and it stayed consistent so I am hoping to make it permanent. That was taken bpfsl, I have not done a BPEL, that will be in December. 1/4" is not much but it does wonders for the motivation, heck 1/8 would do that also

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

1/4" is an enormous gain, especially in such a quick time-frame. congrats!!

 

[Lookn4girth]

1/4" is an enormous gain, especially in such a quick time-frame. congrats!!

Thanks BSA, I hope it is not a fluke or something. I checked it 3 times over a week and it was consistent so I am keeping at it to make sure it sticks. I was using my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] for about a month before I took measurements so some of that could have come from that.

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

are you no longer using your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]?

 

[Lookn4girth]

are you no longer using your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]?

Oh no, I am still using it. I am trying to max it out so I can advance to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words]. I had the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] first then added the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] followed by the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and finally the PF.

 

[Fillerup]

Oh no, I am still using it. I am trying to max it out so I can advance to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words]. I had the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] first then added the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] followed by the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and finally the PF.

Wow! Armed to the teeth LOL! I also have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and soon the PF. Also have a stretcher on order but it's not the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. It's called the "Minotaur Extendaur." Saw it on Ebay for $37 plus $15 shipping. Probably not the best quality, but I just want it to hold my dick in place with the PF attached, and it looks like it should. And, it extends to 14" (not that I will even want to get there). I used to have an X4 but I threw it out when I moved because I figured I was done with PE and even if I decided to start again, I would just go manual. In retrospect, that was probably a bad choice. But the idea of the Phallogenics combination intrigues me, so I figured since I've already invested $500 (Canadian funds) for the PF, what's an extra $50 for an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? Ahhh....Boys and their toys LOL

 

[DLD]

Oh no, I am still using it. I am trying to max it out so I can advance to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X40[/words]. I had the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] first then added the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] followed by the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and finally the PF.

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Toolbox! This aint no halfsteppin'

YOU NEED THIS!

 

[Big Schwanz Acht]

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Toolbox! This aint no halfsteppin'

YOU NEED THIS!

Land Rover 'starer kit'

 

[Lookn4girth]

The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Toolbox! This aint no halfsteppin'

YOU NEED THIS!

The lock would come in handy, lol.

 

[Lookn4girth]

Wow! Armed to the teeth LOL! I also have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words], the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] and soon the PF. Also have a stretcher on order but it's not the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words]. It's called the "Minotaur Extendaur." Saw it on Ebay for $37 plus $15 shipping. Probably not the best quality, but I just want it to hold my dick in place with the PF attached, and it looks like it should. And, it extends to 14" (not that I will even want to get there). I used to have an X4 but I threw it out when I moved because I figured I was done with PE and even if I decided to start again, I would just go manual. In retrospect, that was probably a bad choice. But the idea of the Phallogenics combination intrigues me, so I figured since I've already invested $500 (Canadian funds) for the PF, what's an extra $50 for an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]? Ahhh....Boys and their toys LOL

I have almost as many as the wife but hers are more advanced and work a lot faster, lol. You will have all the tools you need once the PF arrives

 

[DLD]

The lock would come in handy, lol.

Indeed it would! You could fit some serious equipment in that snap on box!