Taking a break from the forum

[Gandolf]

I gotta take a break from this place for awhile. I don't know when I will return, I do plan on Penis Enlargementing in the meantime while I'm gone. I talked to DLD about this on AIM, he can fill the MODs in with however much information he deems fit. I want to return to the team after shit is straightened out. I hope I do not lose my MOD status in my absense.

 

[Iwant8X6]

I hope things get straightened out. You are good addition to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. At Least it will give me time to catch up in post count. j/k Come back with a monster in your pants,but don't come to Wi. Thats my area.;P

 

[German Stallion]

Gandolf, We appreciate all you have done and are doing for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] Forum. Hurry back...GS

 

[REDZULU2003]

I feel confused, why your having a break to sort shit out.
[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] seems stronger now, and were here for you man ... but do wotcha gotta do, a break will do ya good ..... you'll be BACK for sure, bigger than ever and charged up with wisdom and kind words.

If ya feel you need a chat PLEASE PM me man, even just come here and do that cos I will talk to you, I'm also belive it or not lol trained in Pychology with the Police force, and will be here for any problems you may have buddy.

 

[Dashdeming]

Gandolf, Sort it out and get back when you can. In the mean time we will take up your slack and keep the forum going forward. Hurry back dude, you will be missed.

 

[Gandolf]

This isn't the typical break several of us have taken from the forums because their life was a mess, wait for DLD to chime in. My post seems vague because I'm not sure how much info is appropriate to give, this involves a personal dispute among DLD and I. I'm gonna leave it up to him to share as much as he wishes to since it's his forum.

 

[stillwantmore]

Yea, we should wait for DLD to chime in. Nothing wrong with taking a break.

 

[DLD]

The dispute is nothing that needs to be so secretive. Gandolf was going to shoot some videos for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], I sent his a camera, tapes and money to get this done. He was not able to get things done because of school so I asked him to send the equipment back as Stillwantmore said he could bang it out. Gandolf said he sent it out and then later told me he didn't. He then told me he shot everything and mailed it out and later he told me that was not true. I have been a very good friend to Gandolf and helped him allot and I do not like being lied to. I did forgive him and say forget about it. Last night during a IM session he decided to tell me he thinks my pictures are fake. I was insulted and it just added to the lies I was told. I told him he has trust issues and I need my friends to trust me.

 

[stillwantmore]

Yea, I'd be upset over something like that too. I can forgive people though, as friends should be able to do. When someone repeatedly lies to me though, or I feel like they are constantly hiding things...that's when I have to break it off. That has nothing to do with the above scenario...just some personal shit from my own life here lately.

 

[Iwant8X6]

I don't see why Gandalf would be deceptive about the equipment. Its doesn't make sense for him to do that, but I can see why that would put a strain on yours and his relationship especially when he comes out says he thinks your pictures might be fake.

I talk to Gandalf quite a bit, and I know he does value your friendship. He is a very sceptical person by nature. The pictures I have seen are not the best quality, and yes if you wanted to you could pick them a apart.

I look at it this way. Everything DLD has told me has worked for me. SO he definetly has the knowledge of Penis Enlargement, and Penis Enlargement works. I could care less if DLD is really 9 inch BP, or 15 inches BP, but based off his e-mail, and phone convos I am entitled to believe the pics are real. His character suggests to me that he is a humble, and honest man. Even if the picture quality sucks. I would believe DLD if he told me his cock 2 feet long.

 

[DLD]

I talk to Gandalf quite a bit, and I know he does value your friendship.

And I value his friendship I am just disappointed that all these things happened. I have always seen Gandolf as the most honest, mature person and this whole thing through me for a curve. I forgive him and I am not mad just disappointed.

 

[DLD]

I also want to say this so it is out in the open; I do not lie, my pictures are real and everything I do for my friends here is out of the kindness of my heart.

 

[C-Guy]

Just for the record. I completely trust you DLD. These last couple of years have been hell on earth. I don' even want to think of where I would be had it not been for you believeing in me when I couldn't even believe in myself.

Attitude reflects leadership. With that said ...ALL of us mods should try to be more like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] leader. Things would surely smooth out and run much better. No, I am not throwing stones at anyone. Lots of trust have been betrayed here on this forum. Trust is something that has to be earned. It can not be demanded of us.

I realize that all the mods and members here are from different backgrounds. We all have different personalities. But, when we are here, we must make them blend with each other not clash.

Enough of my rambling for now. Just wanted to say that it seems (to me) that too many are trying to push their own agenda , when we should be promoting [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].

 

[REDZULU2003]

Gandolf, you've done the CORRECT thing in leaving [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] for a break, Everyone makes mistakes and I'm sure you'll come back after some reflection, much stronger and better than before.

I cant help but say, I'm shocked by what has gone on ... but its in the past, lets move on.

 

[Gandolf]

Just getting off from work, first time to read all the replies. I just want to clarify a few things now that its out in the open as everyone has heard only one half of the story.

I never told DLD that his pics were fake and I never said that he was lying to anyone about his size. I merely asked him to explain to me how a person could have an identical vein marking on 2 separate spots in his penis. I will say that I was clearly doubting him at the time, however I never said he faked the pics, I have always wanted to believe they are real and I just wanted an explanation.

DLD is right, I did screw him on the video thing. I got a large amount of the filming done but I am in a very tough situation here at college. I attend school on a full scholarship and last spring I fell below my GPA cutoff and had the whole thing yanked out from under me with no warning. I (barely) talked the scholarship committee into giving me the summer to raise my GPA back up to where it needed to be. I am taking 10 credits which is almost as much as some people take in a full semester all condensed into 5 weeks and 2 days. On top of this, I am working overtime at my job to pay for all this shit as my dad is out of work. I haven't had time for sleep and this video thing just came at a bad time. I know I should have sent the damn stuff back but this all came at a time where I truly didn't even have time to drive into the post office to do so and I said what I did to get DLD and JAZ who had started harrasing me off my back for a few days so I could get my finals out of the way. I know it was wrong, but nobody is perfect. I have no doubt that everyone reading this thread has at soem point told a lie to someone they cared about. This whole summer I have been fucking terrified about my entire life as I will be literally out on the street if I lose this scholarship.

About DLD's friendship, I never wanted any of this to jeopardize it. He has helped me through a lot of hard times with Penis Enlargement and with other things as well. Even though I have major doubts about his size I would still have wanted to be friends even if he openly admitted to me that he was a fraud, I liked him as a person. In terms of the future of our friendship, he has posted some things very contrary to what he said to me last night. He said here that he's put everything behind him and forgives me, last night he told me "Fuck you Eric, I can't be friends with you anymore" so I don't know. Either he has done a complete 180 in his opinions or he's giving you guys a different story. I'll wait for his response on this.

 

[REDZULU2003]

I would just FORGET it if I were you and move on.
Get them exams outta the way and your life set, cos its more important than [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].
You MUST put your life first man, no harm in that.

 

[DLD]

About DLD's friendship, I never wanted any of this to jeopardize it. He has helped me through a lot of hard times with Penis Enlargement and with other things as well. Even though I have major doubts about his size I would still have wanted to be friends even if he openly admitted to me that he was a fraud, I liked him as a person. In terms of the future of our friendship, he has posted some things very contrary to what he said to me last night. He said here that he's put everything behind him and forgives me, last night he told me "Fuck you Eric, I can't be friends with you anymore" so I don't know. Either he has done a complete 180 in his opinions or he's giving you guys a different story. I'll wait for his response on this.

Eric I will say it again, my pictures are real and I do not lie. If you can't accept this about me that is your choice. I don't like when friends, that I have spent allot of time making, turn around and lie to me and call me a fraud to other members behind my back. I could care less if you think my gains are not true, I know they are. Your lack of belief is a big reason why you have such a hard time gaining, I only took that picture to show you so it would help you believe in Penis Enlargement. It does not bother me when someone calls my pictures "Photo-shopped" because it is the ultimate compliment to hear that people can't believe my cock is real. I just got upset that you all of a sudden decided to call a picture fake that you believed so much months ago.

 

[DLD]

I also want to address the harassment you said you endured. I went by what you told me, you told me it was done and mailed and it was not. You went on to tell me that you had too much going on to do it so I said don't worry about it just send it back and Stillwantmore would do it. You told me you mailed it then 4 days later when it did not show up you said you didn't mail it but you shoot everything the night before and were going to mail it the next morning. Again this was a lie. The only reason Jaz got mad is because you have his camera. Stillwantmore and Jaz can verify all of this. I went on your word, Penis EnlargementRIOD.

 

[Gandolf]

Eric I will say it again, my pictures are real and I do not lie.

Just for the record I never said you were "lying" about your size and I never said you faked your pictures. Everyone, at somepoint in their life tells a lie though.

If you can't accept this about me that is your choice.

I can accept everything fine, I wasn't the one who got all upset last night and denounced a friend.

I don't like when friends, that I have spent allot of time making, turn around and lie to me and call me a fraud to other members behind my back.

I was in a rough time and yes I lied and yes it was wrong, does everybody not make mistakes though? It surely wasn't a malicious kind of lie targeted at hurting you in any way. When did I call you a fraud and/or say stuff behind your back? I am not sure what you are referencing.

I could care less if you think my gains are not true, I know they are. Your lack of belief is a big reason why you have such a hard time gaining, I only took that picture to show you so it would help you believe in Penis Enlargement.

I think you do care on some level, within minutes of me bringing up your picture you said "Fuck you Eric, we aren't friends anymore." I'm sure this was a major reason if not the only reason you don't want to be friends with me.

It does not bother me when someone calls my pictures "Photo-shopped" because it is the ultimate compliment to hear that people can't believe my cock is real. I just got upset that you all of a sudden decided to call a picture fake that you believed so much months ago.

Never said you faked your pics. I can believe the size of your cock, I just have trouble with the horrible picture quality of your picks. It would be very easy to prove a given dick size and I don't understand how someone can make so many excuses when it would take maybe 10 minutes to end it all for good.

 

[DLD]

Then I apologize for taking things the wrong way.

 

[Gandolf]

I also want to address the harassment you said you endured. I went by what you told me, you told me it was done and mailed and it was not. You went on to tell me that you had too much going on to do it so I said don't worry about it just send it back and Stillwantmore would do it. You told me you mailed it then 4 days later when it did not show up you said you didn't mail it but you shoot everything the night before and were going to mail it the next morning. Again this was a lie. The only reason Jaz got mad is because you have his camera. Stillwantmore and Jaz can verify all of this. I went on your word, Penis EnlargementRIOD.

All true and you don't need SWM of JAZ's word, you have my word on this one. I have never denied any of that shit. I never said I didn't fuck up, although I'm sure everyone has fucked up as badly or worse at some point in their lives. No one here is perfect.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Gandolf I think you should have that break now, leave this be.

 

[DLD]

With all of the non-believers and general hearsay and rumors, one 2 minute long video of a full erection of DLD would denounce all of those rumors completely. With the 5 month wait between pictures that seemed upclose and such many are going to be just left wondering and guessing.

It would not matter if I went on tour and did one on one measurements for people there would still be people that will discredit it. I already shot a video but Stillwantmore said, "ya know they can edit video frame by frame now"...there will never be any proof that will be good enough. I really don't care about that anymore, I do what I do because I love helping people, if some doubt me I can live with that.

 

[Lightning]

So Anyways Gandolf, Wheres my Camera?
I've given You an extra Week to Send it Back. Do I have to Send Fed-Ex to your Doorstep to Pick It Up? You have Lied To us so many Times that I Don't believe you shot anything at all, thats why your not sending It back.
All I ask, is for you to send Me back my Camera, You can Keep the money and the Tapes (I don't care if you shot it or not).

DLD has really been there for you bro (as I witnessed everyday for the last month he was down here talking to you on Aim and the phone). I asked him why he was spending so much time listening to all your issues. He told me that you were a good friend. I really thought he was spending way too much time absorbing too many of your problems, but DLD is DLD. I think what really got him upset is when you lied to him, because he said that you always ask him not to lie to you and you need proof on everything he tells you to make sure its true. So You ask that of DLD and then lie to him 4 Times?

Gandolf, I don't know what your issues are, but Dude, You have a Big Cock, your a Good Looking Dude and your obviously educating yourself.

Anyways I'm Posting this here so everyone can be my witness that I asked for my Camera Back. When am I going to get it back?

 

[Gandolf]

So Anyways Gandolf, Wheres my Camera?
I've given You an extra Week to Send it Back. Do I have to Send Fed-Ex to your Doorstep to Pick It Up? You have Lied To us so many Times that I Don't believe you shot anything at all, thats why your not sending It back.
All I ask, is for you to send Me back my Camera, You can Keep the money and the Tapes (I don't care if you shot it or not).

DLD has really been there for you bro (as I witnessed everyday for the last month he was down here talking to you on Aim and the phone). I asked him why he was spending so much time listening to all your issues. He told me that you were a good friend. I really thought he was spending way too much time absorbing too many of your problems, but DLD is DLD. I think what really got him upset is when you lied to him, because he said that you always ask him not to lie to you and you need proof on everything he tells you to make sure its true. So You ask that of DLD and then lie to him 4 Times?

Gandolf, I don't know what your issues are, but Dude, You have a Big Cock, your a Good Looking Dude and your obviously educating yourself.

Anyways I'm Posting this here so everyone can be my witness that I asked for my Camera Back. When am I going to get it back?

As I've said, I have had a semester and a half of classes and overtime hours at work all crammed into my schedule, finals ended today, so I can send it out soon. What prevented me from sending it was a lack of time. I'll PM you with the tracking number once it's sent. About the lying thing, we've already gone over it a million times here, no need to point it out again, I mean I already fessed up to it in front of everyone multiple times, did I not? If you think I didn't do any filming of videos I will send you the shit that I did accomplish, I'll leave the tape in the camcorder. I understand you wanting the camera back and all and you'll get it, no need for all the personal attacks here man. I told him I sent the shit when I hadn't on 2 separate occasions, we all know this, I'm sure neither you or DLD have EVER told a lie before. Hey it's not like I killed anyone is it?

 

[German Stallion]

Okay, it is time to put this to rest...I really feel bad about this as Gandolf has been a good support of Penis Enlargement. His videos have helped a lot, all of us. Seems that you are forgiven Gandolf, and that is that. Take care of the details. The test of a man's character is what it takes to stop him. Seems you have a lot of character, so don't let this stop you. You have faced it, most of us would not judge you wrongly. Dealing with pressure is not an easy thing to do, we all do it differently. We are your Penis Enlargement friends here, so no need to leave [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. May take some time to heal some wounds, but that is life. DLD has been a great help to me personally and I have been jealous of some of you guys that have been able to spend time with him in person and also spend more time than I have...I know, it is my fault, he would give me time if I need it. There is always dangers when we get close to someone and that is part of being a friend. The Bible says a friend loveth at all times. So, you guys will mend your relationship, it might just take some time. One thing I have learned over the years is to be less judgemental over things that happen. I never know what I would do or not do. I might say I would never do something but the flesh is weak. Lying is never an answer and you are learning this, Eric. So what if you are pressured or have bad grades, quit beating yourself up over it. Settle in and do right and face it. Get the grades back up, you can do it. There is nothing so bad it can't have or doesn't have an answer. When we abandon our principles of right and wrong, then we get into trouble with others.

I tire of all the questions about DLD. You must be stupid to want more proof than the videos he has produced. Gandolf, your videos were awesome when I first saw them, before i saw DLDs. Your pictures make your schlong look huge. The one with DLD wrapping his schlong around his balls and back up...whew, I was convinced...I told him recently if I saw him, I would want him to whip it out and give me a visual demonstration of the monster! So, for my two cents worth, Let things ride and work to be friends. God bless. GS

 

[Dashdeming]

I personally am very uncomfortable having any MOD on this team that does not 100% support DLD primarily and all MODs secondarily. I believe Gandolf does need a break from this team for some time to work through the stress that he is obviously shouldering. A little more time to mature in the world will be good for him and I am sure he will come back one day with a solid set of ethics and a solid and more credible character. This is just another one of those lessons in life that comes with being young and going through the maturity process of life. The sad fact is though, that the open MOD communication will suffer if we believe there is one among us that is not fully on board and fully in support of DLD and all MODS. The bottum line is simple this: If you don't believe in DLD then you certainly don't believe in Penis Enlargement. THIS IS A Penis Enlargement FORUM. Gandolf must move on.

 

[stillwantmore]

I told him I sent the shit when I hadn't on 2 separate occasions, we all know this, I'm sure neither you or DLD have EVER told a lie before. Hey it's not like I killed anyone is it?

Bottom line here is, (in my opinion anyway) that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is a business for DLD. It is what he does with probably 85-90%+ of his time. No matter how much or little money he may make as profit from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], it is still a business. Businesses have deadlines that have no time for excuses. There's no time for a third party, that is supposed to be a reliable source to get something done to have a set back that holds up the business. I'd be just as upset as anyone else if not more so if someone I thought I could count on to get something done for me in a timely manner let me down. Especially if I had payed them in advance as DLD did with you. He sent you a nice video cam, tapes, etc all for you to keep. All he wanted back was the tapes. Any other business owner who had outsourced a job (as in this situation) to a third party source, with advanced pay, that did not deliver the job finished when promised, would not only never do business with that third party again, but that third party would also be held liable for lost profits, time, etc and potentially a lawsuit for breach of contract. To treat the situation like you did, whether you could help it or not, was very inappropriate.

But enough already, damage is done, people will recover regardless. As said above Gandolf, take whatever time you deem required away from here. If you return great, youve always come across to me as a good guy with a good head on his shoulders. Put your penis and your hormones on the back burner for a while, take care of whats important like school, and keeping your family happy.

 

[DLD]

This whole thing is getting out of hand, let me just say my piece and be done with this. I have spent countless hours working with you Eric as a friend. I did this because I like you I did this because I though we were friends. When you lied to me so many times I was disappointed but I did forgive you that night on AIM. When you started coming at me with the photoshopped pictures questions I was extremely insulted. At the time it came across as anger but now that I have absorbed it I think I have a better handle on why it angered me. It is sorta like how I was treated at Th*nd3rs by the mod there. Most of them would call me, im me, pm me as friends. They would ask for help, custom routines, talk about their problems and I would talk about mine. I really liked some of these people as friends. Then I find out that they secretly thought I was a scummy business man trying to take advantage of the forum. That hurt me so much because it was not true. I felt the same way that night when you asked me if I faked my pictures because I thought we were past all that bullshit. I thought you were a friend that trusted me. When I realized you doubted me it came as a slap in the face. On hindsight I think you brought up my pictures out of guilt for your lies and I can understand that but last night on AIM when I tried to put it behind us and you went on to say, and I quote, "Admit you are a cry baby and I will be your friend again" I was pissed. I don't have time to play silly games. I forgive you for everything and as I said if you don't believe in me that is cool too but understand that I am going to feel awkward talking with you when you do not trust me.

Am I a saint, no! You know my past because I trusted you. Is it like you killed someone, of course not, but then again I wonder why you ask it in that way.

Mike

 

[levista]

Hey Gandolf, I hope your finals go well man, that sounds like a lotta hard shit going on right now, but you got your game plan, so stick at it and I hope everything works out well for you God knows, we all mess people around sometimes when it was never our intention - we've all been there, done that !

I'm sure once the equipment is returned and your life returns to some normalness, and some time passes we'll see you again on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] This whole thread reads to me like a bunch of mates who all had their own issues/pressures/concerns and the friendships got mashed somewhere in the middle with some bad communication. It's a cliche, but time heals all these wounds...

 

[Gandolf]

Bottom line here is, (in my opinion anyway) that [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] is a business for DLD. It is what he does with probably 85-90%+ of his time. No matter how much or little money he may make as profit from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], it is still a business. Businesses have deadlines that have no time for excuses. There's no time for a third party, that is supposed to be a reliable source to get something done to have a set back that holds up the business. I'd be just as upset as anyone else if not more so if someone I thought I could count on to get something done for me in a timely manner let me down. Especially if I had payed them in advance as DLD did with you. He sent you a nice video cam, tapes, etc all for you to keep. All he wanted back was the tapes. Any other business owner who had outsourced a job (as in this situation) to a third party source, with advanced pay, that did not deliver the job finished when promised, would not only never do business with that third party again, but that third party would also be held liable for lost profits, time, etc and potentially a lawsuit for breach of contract. To treat the situation like you did, whether you could help it or not, was very inappropriate.

But enough already, damage is done, people will recover regardless. As said above Gandolf, take whatever time you deem required away from here. If you return great, youve always come across to me as a good guy with a good head on his shoulders. Put your penis and your hormones on the back burner for a while, take care of whats important like school, and keeping your family happy.

I see all of your points. One clarification, I did not receive "payment" for this per se. I was sent 40 dollars via paypal to pay for lights to shoot the vids which I bought and to ship the tapes/cam back, no profit on my part. It's not like I received payment and then did not come through with my part. The money was only to compensate me for my expenses in shooting the videos. Not that you were accusing me of this or anything, I could understand how it might seem that way to some.

 

[Gandolf]

This whole thing is getting out of hand, let me just say my piece and be done with this. I have spent countless hours working with you Eric as a friend. I did this because I like you I did this because I though we were friends. When you lied to me so many times I was disappointed but I did forgive you that night on AIM. When you started coming at me with the photoshopped pictures questions I was extremely insulted. At the time it came across as anger but now that I have absorbed it I think I have a better handle on why it angered me. It is sorta like how I was treated at Th*nd3rs by the mod there. Most of them would call me, im me, pm me as friends. They would ask for help, custom routines, talk about their problems and I would talk about mine. I really liked some of these people as friends. Then I find out that they secretly thought I was a scummy business man trying to take advantage of the forum. That hurt me so much because it was not true. I felt the same way that night when you asked me if I faked my pictures because I thought we were past all that bullshit. I thought you were a friend that trusted me. When I realized you doubted me it came as a slap in the face. On hindsight I think you brought up my pictures out of guilt for your lies and I can understand that but last night on AIM when I tried to put it behind us and you went on to say, and I quote, "Admit you are a cry baby and I will be your friend again" I was pissed. I don't have time to play silly games. I forgive you for everything and as I said if you don't believe in me that is cool too but understand that I am going to feel awkward talking with you when you do not trust me.

Am I a saint, no! You know my past because I trusted you. Is it like you killed someone, of course not, but then again I wonder why you ask it in that way.

Mike

You were a really good friend to me and I've never denied that. As I've said, you were my friend regardless of your penis size and/or gains. We've shared some similar issues in life and you gave me some good perspective that a 20 year could not yet have in life in regards to friends, girls, ect...

I lied to you twice, one I said I sent the camera, once I said I sent the tapes, this happened over the course of about 3-4 days. It is not as if I repediately lied and lied to you.

You keep saying that I called you a fake and that you photoshopped your pics. I never said either. I asked if there was an explanation for a (perceived) discrepancy. The 2 allogations are not the same. I would even go so far to say that what I said was not an allogation at all. I was really HOPING that you had an answer.

Please don't compare what I did to what Th*nd3rs did. They executed a calculated plot to destroy your reputation and hurt your business. I voiced my concerns to you in private, once again, not even close to what you accuse me of.

I hope you can agree with me that you've blown a lot of the stuff I said and did out of proportion. When I said our friendship was contingent upon an apology, I meant that I feel you should admit to what you've done specifically. I told you in no unspecific terms that I fucked you pretty badly with this and lied to you about the videos. You made an "apology" thread here but you've never even specified what you're apologizing for. The forum didn't see it but in that AIM convo you took some MAJOR cheap shots and said some stuff that could only be construed as a means to hurt me, and if you want to be my friend and put things behind us you need to come to me and admit that this happened. There are few things in the world that are unforgivable to me. I can forgive anyone who fucks up, but I can't forgive a person who make believes like it did not happen. I enjoyed our friendship and I enjoy being a member and a mod here. I hope you can put your ego aside and give me a satisfactory apology, I know I did.

 

[DLD]

I see all of your points. One clarification, I did not receive "payment" for this per se. I was sent 40 dollars via paypal to pay for lights to shoot the vids which I bought and to ship the tapes/cam back, no profit on my part. It's not like I received payment and then did not come through with my part. The money was only to compensate me for my expenses in shooting the videos. Not that you were accusing me of this or anything, I could understand how it might seem that way to some.

The agreement was you got to keep the camera for your part.

 

[DLD]

The forum didn't see it but in that AIM convo you took some MAJOR cheap shots and said some stuff that could only be construed as a means to hurt me, and if you want to be my friend and put things behind us you need to come to me and admit that this happened. There are few things in the world that are unforgivable to me. I can forgive anyone who fucks up, but I can't forgive a person who make believes like it did not happen. I enjoyed our friendship and I enjoy being a member and a mod here. I hope you can put your ego aside and give me a satisfactory apology, I know I did.

COuld you please be specific about what these "Cheap Shots" were? I said basically the same things I have said here. Refresh my memory, or better yet post the conversation, I am sure you still have it.

 

[REDZULU2003]

It would not matter if I went on tour and did one on one measurements for people there would still be people that will discredit it. I already shot a video but Stillwantmore said, "ya know they can edit video frame by frame now"...there will never be any proof that will be good enough. I really don't care about that anymore, I do what I do because I love helping people, if some doubt me I can live with that.

I agree man.
FUCK what others think.
Just cos you did a short video doesnt mean fuck all, you could have done a 2 hour clip and the cunts would still take digs, cos THATS WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO.
I also only release pix every 6 months of so, big fuckin deal ... I do this cos I WANT TO, I DO NOT like DLD have to prove myself to no fucka, get that straight ..... no one has to prove a fuckin thing here, its some sad bastards that wonna see this and wonna see that, cos their that fuckin unstable like waves in the sea getting tossed and turned around.

DLD - YOU HAVE DONE EVERYTHING YOU CAN AND COULD IN ORDER TO FEED the few who want proof of this and that, well they'll NEVER be happy man .... Video editing is possible, frame by frame its VERY FUCKIN hard but it can be done .... photos as we know can be faked, so the only way would be to have a Dick tour around the world showing these wankers ya cock in person .... than slappin them acros the face with it and curse them with a small dick for eternity the worthless pieces of fuckin trash.
You DONT need to do ANYMORE dld, FUCK ALL THESE WANKERS .... fuck them all man, if they dont believe you they dont believe you, I BELIVE YOU ... I also get BS over my pix still in PMs and email, but I let it go over my back cos I know what I have and they dont, which is over ... WAY OVER 7 inches of girth, they may have more length than me ... but thickness counts, so I say FUCK THEM.
Get the same attitude man, you do TOO MUCH running around for these wankers you say shit, just tell them fuck off and think what they want, you know what you have ... they want it, cant get it and than think it aint possible.
SAD REALLY innit.

 

[REDZULU2003]

I personally am very uncomfortable having any MOD on this team that does not 100% support DLD primarily and all MODs secondarily. I believe Gandolf does need a break from this team for some time to work through the stress that he is obviously shouldering. A little more time to mature in the world will be good for him and I am sure he will come back one day with a solid set of ethics and a solid and more credible character. This is just another one of those lessons in life that comes with being young and going through the maturity process of life. The sad fact is though, that the open MOD communication will suffer if we believe there is one among us that is not fully on board and fully in support of DLD and all MODS. The bottum line is simple this: If you don't believe in DLD then you certainly don't believe in Penis Enlargement. THIS IS A Penis Enlargement FORUM. Gandolf must move on.

I agree,
look at me I'm in the Merseyside Police Force here in the UK going into the Narcotics field when I soon pass out, I dont even know deep down if I will stay with the force, or drop out and go into the Navy as a medic or go into Careing for awhile, cos the Police is very hard.
Point is, I have matured into a leader ... and have been given many BRILLIANT reports from my peers in the force, I wouldnt have if I aint left into the outside world and grown up.
I was abit immature when I was in the Fire Service, well I was younger and hadnt been through as much shit ... now Im stronger and better than ever, I can take shit from anyone now and it wont fuck me up.
Life will make you better Gandolf, you will mature and get better.....some wouldnt have thought I would have made it as a great cop, but I did and will soon post pix of me in my uniform .... I have PULLED myself up and have made myself a better person.
Many of you, includeing you Gandlof said I was Immature along time ago, which lol imho was a BS comment anyway, but I'm much better now ... I have changed, so can you.
TAKE THE BREAK and heal/grow ... than return.

 

[Gandolf]

As much as the idea of a break sounds like a good idea, I don't think it's really going to help the situation. This is not an issue of Gandolf falling mentally "ill" as it has been with the users who have taken a break in the past. Sure the fact that Gandolf was overly busy was cause for the Camera not being returned on time and the white lie. But the other issue is not about school or anything else, I think its a legit reason Gandolf has, meaning its not caused by malice or any sort of bias.

That itself cannot be cured with a break no matter how long, there is a disruption in the understandanding between two people and anything but a break is best in this situation it has to be worked out sooner or later so why not sooner? A break just makes it seem as if Gandolf has lost his marbles, which I don't think he has I think he was under stress about the vidoe camera but that doesn't make everything he says under the guaise of "crazy talk".

I am sure posing those questions to DLD was not easy, and only a true friend could have the musto to do so, and in the same breath I think that Gandolf DOES believe 100% in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and in DLD, and has a lot of love for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. With that said it doesn't mean he cannot question a person, even DLD, if we are all equals why not? Not one mod here would turn his back on DLD, DLD should know this, Gandolf approached DLD in a intimate conversation it was not meant to be an attack....I hope you guys get through this and the questions on both sides are mutual answered because no one here wants to take the fall of a great mod/character.

You hit the nail right on the head and articulated that better than even I myself could have.

 

[DLD]

DLD should know this, Gandolf approached DLD in a intimate conversation

Then why was it brought into the MOD forum?

 

[Gandolf]

Then why was it brought into the MOD forum?

I announced that I wasn't going to be around for awhile as I did not want people to think I just disappeared. I told people that there was a personal situation that I wasn't sure was appropriate to discuss at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words], that I would leave it for you to decide how much people should know. YOU brought the whole discussion about me lying to you and questioning your pic up. So I guess you should be asking yourself this question. The early posts in this thread will confirm everything i just said.

 

[DLD]

I announced that I wasn't going to be around for awhile as I did not want people to think I just disappeared.

Then why are you still around and more active than ever?

 

[Gandolf]

Then why are you still around and more active than ever?

Well this is actually the only thread I have posted in since creating it, I would hardly consider that more active than ever. I guess that there isn't much of a concensus here as to whether I am welcome or not. I can't change my beliefs and if I can keep my beliefs and post here, I will continue to. I know some, such as Dash, don't think this can work out. If the MODS agree that I should leave, I will. I hope I can stay. I was just waiting for people to come to a concensus about this.

 

[DLD]

Well this is actually the only thread I have posted in since creating it, I would hardly consider that more active than ever. I guess that there isn't much of a concensus here as to whether I am welcome or not. I can't change my beliefs and if I can keep my beliefs and post here, I will continue to. I know some, such as Dash, don't think this can work out. If the MODS agree that I should leave, I will. I hope I can stay. I was just waiting for people to come to a concensus about this.

Let it be water under the bridge and move on. You stated your concerns, I understand them as well as everyone else in the mod forum, you said you are sorry I said I am sorry...so drop it.

 

[Gandolf]

Please just take me off your mod team, this has really opened up my eyes to a number of things involving this forum. I won't hide my opinion, I think you make yourself out to be a lot more than you really are. I won't be able to deny this anymore and I'll be the first to admit that it would be ridiculous to wear the title of MOD if this is my mindset. I don't want to be a leader here in a place I no longer respect. This isn't to say that I don't like some aspects of the forum, there are some great guys here and lots of good going on amidst all of the bullshit so I'll still be around in some form. I do plan on completely revamping my video series when I get the time and I like helping newbies. See everyone around.

 

[DLD]

What's going on here guys? If this means we can't question each other then I am unsure even of my own modship.

What does this have to do with questioning?

 

[REDZULU2003]

Please just take me off your mod team, this has really opened up my eyes to a number of things involving this forum. I won't hide my opinion, I think you make yourself out to be a lot more than you really are. I won't be able to deny this anymore and I'll be the first to admit that it would be ridiculous to wear the title of MOD if this is my mindset. I don't want to be a leader here in a place I no longer respect. This isn't to say that I don't like some aspects of the forum, there are some great guys here and lots of good going on amidst all of the bullshit so I'll still be around in some form. I do plan on completely revamping my video series when I get the time and I like helping newbies. See everyone around.

WTF dld has just said its under the bridge man, and you come out with this shiet.
Are you gunna take that BREAK or not??? I mean, you have said it but have just stayed here with dld going on and on about stuff irrelavant to you having a break.
I thought you wanted to concentrate on Education???? I dunno what to think of you man, but I can tell you something for free......you have mental issues or sorts that need sorting out, this isnt an attack or critisism but Trying to help you as a freind.

You dont wonna be a mod, FINE dont fuckin be one ... but dont keep moaning about it man, go away and take that break dude and get some help on those issues, even PM me ... I'm trained in that field to a certain extent.

 

[Lightning]

So In the end, What happens to My Camera?

 

[stillwantmore]

Oh yeaaa that camera

 

[Gandolf]

Please just take me off your mod team

24 Hours later I'm still a mod, someone demod me, then I take my break.

PS: Red, I have done no bitching and moaning about anything. I like you, but you're the last person in the world I would want to receive psychological help from.

PPS: Jaz, you have my AIM name so send me an IM if you need to discuss things further than what I've said here.

 

[REDZULU2003]

Thats fine, dont get any from me than.
Make sure you get it from somewhere cos you'll get WORSE with age mate.
Now are you having that break?

 

[stillwantmore]

Yea I mean honestly, if I had the insecurity and emotional, and obvious maturity issues that Gandolf has....I would not be wasting precious time HERE on a bigger penis forum. I'd be addressing my life issues and dealing with what's important to me. Something like keeping my GPA up so my dad doesnt kick me out on my ass....uh yea, that would rate #1 way above a forum.

On the other hand, I would not have committed to doing something for DLD or Jaz as he did either. When I obviously knew I could not come through. As SOON as I knew for a fact that I could not come through on something, I would tell them so. (is Jaz gonna get his CAMERA back by the way???. DLD just offered me the same deal if I could help him with the videos, but I currently have a LOT going on in my personal life over the next two or three weeks, and I was man enough to say "no man, sorry I hate to do it to ya, but I really cannot see getting it done for you, not for a couple weeks at least". Rather than, dick him around and mess with HIS life schedule. I understand what a serious thing this is to DLD AND Jaz. They both put a LOT of time into this forum AND [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] and the various other things going on behind the scenes that most of us are clueless about, but nonetheless are required to make these sites possible.

Gandolf, youre a good guy...from what I have gotten to know of you on the various forums over the last few years, but comon man. You have some issues you need to take care of. Regardless of whether or not DLD or Jaz de-mods you. You should have it in you to say "ok, enough already...I need a break, and I'm gonna take it till I get my shit together."