Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

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Hey, gents, new on the site but I've been PEing for a few weeks shy of a year and have gotten a lot of good information here from everyone's posts.

For anyone willing to extend their insight/experience, I have a question regarding stalled gains.

I started PE in August 2017 with a newbie [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Bathmate[/words]/Jelqing/light stretching routine for 30 days, then moved on to a standard 5 day a week [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]/jelq routine, gradually increasing jelqs every week or so. My length was fine for me (around 6.75") so my main focus has been girth (only 4.25").

I never really noticed much pump from standard jelqs, but kept using them to improve my conditioning. I was doing 15 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] 5 days a week, and a few hundred jelqs 3 days a week. By December (4 month mark), I'd gained 1/4" in girth, which seemed great.

By the 7 month mark, I switched to SSJs and noticed a huge increase in post workout pump. Since they were a bit more demanding, I initially split the routine up (5-8 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words] in morning 3 days a week, 15 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] in evening, 5 days a week).

I've been at the point for the last 3 months where I've been using the following routine:

5 Days a Week:
• 10 min warmup with hot towel (same as always)
• 5 min stretch including bundled stretches
• 8 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]/8 min [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]/7 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] (3 days a week)
• 12-15 min [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] (remaining 2 days)

*also 100 (5 sec) kegels as often as I can but have slacked on these

I haven't increased the time for the SSJs because any more seems to leave me too fatigued to finish the workout.

In the last few months, while my EQ is still good, random erections are less consistent and, more importantly, I haven't gained any girth at all. So in 7 months, I've seen no improvement in girth whatsoever. Some of this is possibly due to a little stress (new job/pregnant wife), but you'd think in 7 months there'd be some gains.

So my question to the vets out there is do you think a 2-4 week break followed by a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] is the way to go, or do I just need to suck it up and find a better way to condition myself?

Thanks
 
Welcome to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words]. Your penis has become well conditioned to the particular pressure you are using while pumping. First of all, if you aren't using the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] extreme pump I will suggest you switch over to the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] extreme or buy a win vac and mod your current [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] to increase the pressure.

Secondly, since you have been well conditioned with the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words], it's time to pump at higher pressure. Try to differentiate between slight discomfort and pain when pumping. You should pump to the extent where your penis feels as if it wants to explode and stay there doing kegel and reverse kegel.

Also follow the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] part of the girth routine.

You can start off like this:

8 mins pumping
3 reps of 1 minute [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]

8 mins pumping
3 reps of 1 minute [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]

8 mins pumping
3 reps of 1 minute [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words]

Your first 8 mins pumping set can be done with number pressure like you used to do but the second and third set should be done at extreme pressure but dont hurt yourself. Just try to differentiate between discomfort and pain. It is very important to train in super set. Please make sure you read the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. It will help you a lot.

I believe other [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]bathmate[/words] users with experience will drop some ideas as well.

Lastly, create a progress log in the progress log section of the forum. It will help you stay consistent with your routine and other members will be commenting there and encouraging you.
 
Last thing I would suggest would be to backpedal and take a month off, then do a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words]. "Deconditioning" is anecdotal bro science.

Instead, I'd suggest focusing more strongly on gaining girth. Drop the stretches. You don't care much about length, right? 5 minutes a day of stretching is for what? It's not contributing anything. Neither is the hot towel. That's 10 more minutes you could be actually working on girth. Your penis warns up as you train.

Try this for 2-3 months:

10 minutes of Horse Squeezes, 10 minutes of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/12539-slow-squash-jelq-nothing-give-me-better-expansion.html]SSJ[/words], 10 minutes of Horse Squeezes.
Once a day, 5 on 2 off.

Make sure every minute is as focused as possibly on maximum expansion.

Horse squeezes are squeezing off at the base while erect, then grabbing your glans and also squeezing it and holding both squeezes for around 30 seconds. Release both grips, re stimulate to max erection, repeat.

I demonstrate a Horse Squeeze in this video. I don't call it such, but I show myself doing it (base and glans squeeze).

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByCiuPnGDcIeNnpaUlZwVllRWWc/view

Month three, you could look at clamping.
 
huge-girth,

Thanks, man. Happy to be aboard. I always liked coming to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] since you guys have a ton of knowledge to help out noobs such as myself. I didn't think my current routine was super intense compared to most and was curious if more or less was better.

I have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydromax[/words] X series. I'll give the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Xtreme[/words] a look. I've glanced at the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] but not in depth. I'll study it for sure.

Question regarding the routine: How many days a week do you recommend? I'm currently hitting it 5 days a week w/ SSJs mixed in 3 of those days.

Thanks again for the info, man. I really appreciate it.
 
stillwantmore2,

Thanks for advice and video. I'd heard mixed advice about decon breaks and wanted to get some opinions.

I was mainly stretching thinking that the reason for not getting any more expansion might be due to tight tunica. Do you advise not doing a warmup at all? Seeing that squeezes are more intense than traditional jelqs, I thought a proper warmup was needed.

Thanks again, man.
 
Plissken;766149 said:
stillwantmore2,

Thanks for advice and video. I'd heard mixed advice about decon breaks and wanted to get some opinions.

I was mainly stretching thinking that the reason for not getting any more expansion might be due to tight tunica. Do you advise not doing a warmup at all? Seeing that squeezes are more intense than traditional jelqs, I thought a proper warmup was needed.

Thanks again, man.
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Like I said above, I don't see a need to "warm up". Even when I clamped. Never kept me from gaining. Use your head, push yourself but watch for pushing too hard.
 
Plissken;766139 said:
huge-girth,

Thanks, man. Happy to be aboard. I always liked coming to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] since you guys have a ton of knowledge to help out noobs such as myself. I didn't think my current routine was super intense compared to most and was curious if more or less was better.

I have the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Hydromax[/words] X series. I'll give the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]Xtreme[/words] a look. I've glanced at the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] but not in depth. I'll study it for sure.

Question regarding the routine: How many days a week do you recommend? I'm currently hitting it 5 days a week w/ SSJs mixed in 3 of those days.

Thanks again for the info, man. I really appreciate it.
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It depends on what your body can take. I train daily and my main focus is length. When I get to my length goal, I will switch my focus to girth.
 
stillwantmore2;766152 said:
Like I said above, I don't see a need to "warm up". Even when I clamped. Never kept me from gaining. Use your head, push yourself but watch for pushing too hard.
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Warm ups to me were always light stretching, pumping or jelqing. I used to do the whole hot wrap thing and eventually stopped as I saw no point in it. With that said, you should always do a warm down through healing as in [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. The warm down should be the healing process. [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] gives instruction to healing in both length and girth. Gaining is half the job, healing is the other.
 
DLD,

Thanks, man. I actually started wearing a cock ring several months ago after after reading about healing in an expanded state via your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] program. I'll look deeper into it to see what else I should be doing to assist in recovery.

I appreciate you and the guys taking the time to help out the new guy. I've planned on this being a several year journey from the get go and everyone's input has sparked some much needed motivation to push through.
 
Plissken;766272 said:
huge-girth,

Good advice. I generally try to let EQ be the deciding factor. Thanks again, man.
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You are always welcome. Just keep it in mind that PE is a marathon not a race.
 
Plissken;766271 said:
DLD,

Thanks, man. I actually started wearing a cock ring several months ago after after reading about healing in an expanded state via your [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] program. I'll look deeper into it to see what else I should be doing to assist in recovery.

I appreciate you and the guys taking the time to help out the new guy. I've planned on this being a several year journey from the get go and everyone's input has sparked some much needed motivation to push through.
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Awesome you have already done some research, I am proud of you. So where I would go from here is [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] 100%, do the whole program and watch thing blow the fuck up!
 
do you enter your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] with as high EQ as possible? is your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X30[/words] modded? If no on both, mod your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] and do all your sessions erect...trust me, this will conquer your plateau(s)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;766524 said:
do you enter your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] with as high EQ as possible? is your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]X30[/words] modded? If no on both, mod your [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] and do all your sessions erect...trust me, this will conquer your plateau(s)
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So says one of the girth ancestor :)
 
Big Schwanz Acht;766658 said:
did I die? I feel pretty good for being dead :)
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huge-girth;766763 said:
Perhaps I used the wrong word. I apologize.
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lol...in the context that you posted, probably 'veteran' (or vet) would have captured your intent. no worries, English is my primary language and I still struggle :)
 
huge-girth;766763 said:
Perhaps I used the wrong word. I apologize.
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It was a joke my Brother, I am posting MEME's lately trying to bring some humor into the fam.
 
doublelongdaddy;766856 said:
It was a joke my Brother, I am posting MEME's lately trying to bring some humor into the fam.
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Yes I know it was a joke but where am from, you don't try such jokes with someone who is far older than you with 10 years.
 
DLD,

Hahaha, roger that. I read through it twice since last week. A lot of knowledge and the healing portion is spot on. I've already noticed a bit more fullness the next day.

Much appreciated, sir.
 
BSA,

I have always entered erect since after the first 30 days. Nope, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] isn't moded and I've thought about getting that vacu-vin or whatever it's called. Thanks for the tip.
 
Plissken;767054 said:
BSA,

I have always entered erect since after the first 30 days. Nope, [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words] isn't moded and I've thought about getting that vacu-vin or whatever it's called. Thanks for the tip.
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That Wine-Vac makes all the difference in the world, it kick ass in comparison to the hand ball. You will never be able to use all the vacuum, it is that powerful.
 
doublelongdaddy;767082 said:
That Wine-Vac makes all the difference in the world, it kick ass in comparison to the hand ball. You will never be able to use all the vacuum, it is that powerful.
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I have the wine-vac but I'm yet to use it. Some day I will use it for sex.
 
huge-girth;767135 said:
I have the wine-vac but I'm yet to use it. Some day I will use it for sex.
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With the Wine-Vac you can take on some serious temp. size to really crush it with the wife!
 
DLD,

Well I can't argue with that. I'll do some research on the forums and find out how to incorporate it into my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]. Thanks to you guys I've been adding at or over 1/4" girth post pump compared to my usual sessions. I'm glad I got on the site.

Much appreciated, sir.
 
doublelongdaddy;767202 said:
With the Wine-Vac you can take on some serious temp. size to really crush it with the wife!
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I will surely look into that when the time to train girth comes.
 
Plissken;767251 said:
DLD,

Well I can't argue with that. I'll do some research on the forums and find out how to incorporate it into my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98 ]BM[/words]. Thanks to you guys I've been adding at or over 1/4" girth post pump compared to my usual sessions. I'm glad I got on the site.

Much appreciated, sir.
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Always my pleasure my Brother!
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Gents,

Just an update, after reading the SRT again and supersetting my BM/SSJs via Huge's advice (thanks man) I've been using the cock ring after my sessions and leaving it on during the course of the workday (9ish hours). I gotta say, things are looking great. Much more expansion by night time and everything feels more pliable/workable.

Thanks for the assist, everyone. I appreciate it.

Plissken
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Plissken said:
Gents,

Just an update, after reading the SRT again and supersetting my BM/SSJs via Huge's advice (thanks man) I've been using the cock ring after my sessions and leaving it on during the course of the workday (9ish hours). I gotta say, things are looking great. Much more expansion by night time and everything feels more pliable/workable.

Thanks for the assist, everyone. I appreciate it.

Plissken
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...it keeps getting better and better (just stick with it)
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Plissken said:
Gents,

Just an update, after reading the SRT again and supersetting my BM/SSJs via Huge's advice (thanks man) I've been using the cock ring after my sessions and leaving it on during the course of the workday (9ish hours). I gotta say, things are looking great. Much more expansion by night time and everything feels more pliable/workable.

Thanks for the assist, everyone. I appreciate it.

Plissken
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In all seriousness! SRT is the most powerful routine
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Big Schwanz Acht,

I'm looking forward to it. Getting excited to train again which is a good feeling.
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Plissken said:
DLD,

You've got my vote, sir. Wish I would have read it years ago.
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Awesome my Brother, I am also here to guide you through anything that you may not understand. SRT is simple once it is learned and everyone gains using SRT, PERIOD!
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Plissken said:
Gents,

Just an update, after reading the SRT again and supersetting my BM/SSJs via Huge's advice (thanks man) I've been using the cock ring after my sessions and leaving it on during the course of the workday (9ish hours). I gotta say, things are looking great. Much more expansion by night time and everything feels more pliable/workable.

Thanks for the assist, everyone. I appreciate it.

Plissken
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I'm happy for you bro. Remember PE is a marathon not a race. Always log into the forum each day as this will give you so much will power. Also, the less you masturbate, the higher your motivation to train will be, so let there be a balance.
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

DLD,

Thanks man. It was a lot to get through originally, but the more times I read it the more sense it makes. Truly good stuff. Especially regarding healing/recovery. I very much appreciate it.
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Huge-girth,

Thanks for the heads up. I dont use any pills so less masturbation is kind of a necessity for me to keep EQ going since I'm training more frequently and with more intensity.

Quick question, do you recommend doing SSJs each session (EQ depending) or alternating SSJ/Bathmate and Bathmate only days?
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Plissken said:
Huge-girth,

Thanks for the heads up. I dont use any pills so less masturbation is kind of a necessity for me to keep EQ going since I'm training more frequently and with more intensity.

Quick question, do you recommend doing SSJs each session (EQ depending) or alternating SSJ/Bathmate and Bathmate only days?
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SSJ should be done after each pumping set. I do 3 reps of 1 minute SSJ after each pumping set. That's a total of 9 reps of SSJ and each lasting for 1 minute.
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Huge-girth,

Good to go. I've been doing them after each pump every session but was wondering if SSJs every day was too much and a day or two of just pumping and that's it would be necessary.

So far, so good though. I think the kegels while in the Bathmate have been helping a lot.

Thanks again.
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Plissken said:
Huge-girth,

Good to go. I've been doing them after each pump every session but was wondering if SSJs every day was too much and a day or two of just pumping and that's it would be necessary.

So far, so good though. I think the kegels while in the Bathmate have been helping a lot.

Thanks again.
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Awesome that you are using the SSJ, no better companion to the BathMate! I would do both as outlined in SRT.

5 Minutes in the pump at full intensity
5 minutes SlowSquashJelq

5 Minutes in the pump at full intensity
5 minutes SlowSquashJelq

5 Minutes in the pump at full intensity
5 minutes SlowSquashJelq

Done
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Plissken said:
Huge-girth,

Good to go. I've been doing them after each pump every session but was wondering if SSJs every day was too much and a day or two of just pumping and that's it would be necessary.

So far, so good though. I think the kegels while in the Bathmate have been helping a lot.

Thanks again.
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Yes kegel while pumping is very essential to girth gains and temporary expansion. You will be wasting your session if you don't incorporate manual girth exercises into your daily girth routine.
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

DLD,

Thanks, brother. I'm working up to a full 5 min on SSJs, but that's the goal. Honestly, nothing has gave me better expansion. I've seen an increase of almost 1/4" when doing SSJs. That exercise has changed the whole game for me. Thanks for the recommendation.
 
Re: Stalled Gains for Last 7 months

Huge-girth,

Yes, the kegels, I noticed, have given me the ability to expand much more while in the pump and get a few extra millimeters of girth before transitioning to manual work. I've definitely noticed an increase in girth after a session when incorporating them.

Initially, I thought the bathmate was the go-to, and I still think it is essential, but the manual work has brought things to a whole nother level. I am working towards graduating to clamping in a month or so.
 
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