In terms of ease of use and the results it garners? What's your favorite?
stillwantmore2;695668 said:loaded question really. Do you want "just" a hanger? Do you want something you can stretch and hang with? Stay away from vaccum devices as they are limited in their weight level long term and are over priced for what you get. Then of course, there's the blister problem you will likely face at some point. If you want a well made hanger with a solid how to guide, good customer support and a low price, there's my malehanger. If you want more options for stretching as well when you're not hanging, there's the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words].
bukkake;696047 said:Disagree, I recommend the LG, which is a vacuum hanger. I used the Bib for over a year with small results. When you're starting out, consistency (getting to 10 hours a week) is important. I used Bib and bought a Malehanger - compression hangers. The time it takes to figure out how to avoid blisters with the LG is less than trying to get wrapping and avoid pinching on the Bib. Also, you're limited to 20 minute sets with Bib. If you want to do 3 sets in a day, including 10 minutes rest for circulation, it adds up to a lot of time you need to dedicate every single day to hanging. I am able to hang 1 hour, even 1.5 hours straight with LG with conditioning. After a while, you just get tired of doing the routine for compression hangers; it will cause you to not reach the 10 hours per week needed unless you have a lot of free time. It is very easy to get discouraged every day when you don't see the results (don't expect anything immediate with either) and then you start to ask if it's worth the pain, effort, and time to use compression hangers...that causes you to take days off or stop hanging before doing your target # of sets per day because you can't take it anymore, which can cause you to give up on PE altogether.
LG handles 25lbs, so maybe down the line if you reach that point, then you may have to go with Bib, but you can get a lot of hanging out before you even reach 25lbs
stillwantmore2;696048 said:So, how heavy do you currently hang with your "LG" bukkake? Most users don't seem to be going very heavy, or reporting/showing much in the way of gains despite the LG being out for a few years now.
templnite;696470 said:Yeah and why your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sig [/words]reads "owner/designer"? Bib virtually designed it and neither of you owns it. That trash ain't even worth patenting
deadwood187;696467 said:I agree. Don't understand why Vac gets so much hate (mind you it's from a competitor) but in EVERY single poll conducted on EVERY single forum: People like Vac better than compression. I have no doubt the LG is good.I have Vachanger and for the price it murders these compression style hangers.
stillwantmore2;696490 said:I don't personally "hate" vac hangers, but I do like to give my honest feedback on their real world limitations. All devices have them. At some point in time, a vac hanger user will likely have an issue with blisters on his glans that he won't be able to work around. It's just a byproduct of the device design. No matter who makes them, how they are made, how they are marketed, a vac hanger is a vacuum chamber you attach weight to. They develop HG (vacuum) inside them. When you pull on the end of them, the vacuum inside the chamber increases. With more weight, the internal vac increases. It's easy to prove if you simply attach a hand pump with a gauge to one while you hang. A seasoned pumper usually never goes past a certain vac (HG) level.
My biggest 'beef' with vac hangers is the blister issue that gets sugar coated over (usually). Then, the guys who act like you can just hang more and more time with low weights with them and gain all the size you want. The penis just doesn't work that way. It adapts to the resistance you use. Hence the need to increase weight levels over time. The one big thing the sellers of devices like the LG have going for them is the fact that the average guy doesn't want much of an increase in size. He'll likely make his newbie gains and quit. OR, he hasn't been around the PE community long enough to realize that the average guy is done with his PE journey within the time frame that most guys are willing to experiment with PE....1-2 years. You see reports of blisters if you do simple google searches. Reports of gains? Reports of gains past the 1 inch mark other than the guys who help promote the devices? Picture proof?
Not trying to stir up anything, just food for thought. My hangers have their limits too, which I DO admit to, but they are fewer than a vac hanger has, if you are honest about it.
templnite;696470 said:Yeah and why your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sig [/words]reads "owner/designer"? Bib virtually designed it and neither of you owns it. That trash ain't even worth patenting
stillwantmore2;696048 said:So, how heavy do you currently hang with your "LG" bukkake? Most users don't seem to be going very heavy, or reporting/showing much in the way of gains despite the LG being out for a few years now.
stillwantmore2;696660 said:Very cool. See, I'm not against vac hangers. I just despise the guys who act like they're the greatest, totally infallible device with no limits, or design limitations. We need truth and transparency in PE. I admit my hangers are not for everyone and have certain limitations. Just like vac hangers do.
deadwood187;696726 said:"You despise"? A bit melodramatic aren't you? You are the one going around trying to slag a superior product by telling people to "google injuries" when in fact compression type hangers are responsible for more injuries than vachangers. You are the one promoting your product as the end all and be all of all PE products. You are the problem, not everyone else.
ALL products have limitations. ALL of them. Some more so than others. You have a ve$$$$$$$$$ted interest in putting down a Vachanger so your word means zero to me and most. Most just are scared to say anything because you whine and bitch so the threat of a ban is always there. As I said- Ve$$ted interest.
You are not unbiased so why should any one care what you say? Not being insulting just being serious.
templnite;696743 said:Hey stillwantsmore I was gonna ask lightning if I could please have this months prize but seeing as you're the new purveyor and owner here at [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]mos[/words] ill ask thy humbly, can I have the prize pleez baws :^)
templnite;696752 said:Can I be a moderator too? Ill delete deadwood immediately for not being in align with thy glo. Everyone shall glo and pay muney to slag and shill, this is how the brotherhood stunts now when you mention almighty stills name bruh make sure you put some respek on my name niggih
jekyllnhyde360;696756 said:How are those two even allowed to do this ish... slandering a senior member with longstanding ties to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].
Anthony78;696757 said:It's sad really. I've never seen such unnecessary hate and rage in my life. Still is a good dude. He doesn't deserved to be provoked.
jekyllnhyde360;696756 said:How are those two even allowed to do this ish... slandering a senior member with longstanding ties to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words].
My issue is I don't see the Vac guys aggressively shilling their product and putting down competitors. I don't see Vachangers running boards incognito like BIB does to sell their stuff. So whatever.
stillwantmore2;698220 said:To be fair, if you hang out in the Devices forum on pegym, the #1 promoted hanger there is the quite pricey "LG" Hanger. Granted, the owner of the brand (a redesign of the "Grip" and "Max Vac" hangers) is paying a kings ransom to be there. I don't believe there is anything wrong with product advertisement when the forum members know there is honest feedback. I don't pay DLD or any of the moderators here to speak well of me or my product.
deadwood187;698213 said:Slandering?
GTFO please.
Truth is you have to try all hanger's to see which one is best. If you are lucky you'll get the right one the first purchase. Bottom line is you have to try them all. As shitty and expensive as this sounds it's the truth. I personally love my Vachanger but I know guys who hate it. I know guys who love compression hanging but I think it sucks balls(At least with the ghetto hanger BIB),
My issue is I don't see the Vac guys aggressively shilling their product and putting down competitors. I don't see Vachangers running boards incognito like BIB does to sell their stuff. So whatever.
templnite;698289 said:Hey man watch the way you talk to my bestie for the restie. Dont listen to him oneeightseven, he's still but hurt about how they gypped him on his electric pump xD. That's why he doesn't like hearing about cheating people, damn five hundred bones down the drain, shoulda been in 3hunna my niggauh
jekyllnhyde360;698318 said:aww that's cute temp, you have a little crush on me, doing a little research creepin' my old threads, i guess i've finally made it, i have a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] stalker i dont swing that way, sorry temp, but im sure deadwood, will let you shove your wood, dead up his ass.
deadwood187;698322 said:Glad to see people start young with PE but isn't 12 a little too young ?
Seriously, you sound like an autistic 12 year old. Cool your jets a little.
templnite;698324 said:Jekyll and Hyde chose his username to be anecdotal of his nightlife, at night when he becomes a tranny. I just thought it was you who paid all that money only for it to fail because that's the story of your life.
Seriously you're a retarded experiment trying to gain girth by squishing your dick with a glass jar. You were probably born In that same jar, out of aids and a disabled boy's smegma
jekyllnhyde360;698329 said:This is just pathetic, i expected more from you temp! where's the creativity.
jekyllnhyde360;698329 said:This is just pathetic, i expected more from you temp! where's the creativity.[/QUOTE
the 'disabled boy's smegma' part was kinda creative and made me laugh at the audacity
Commodore;698469 said:i am a little confused, wasnt it deadwood and Templnite that was attacking youknowme123321 for his vachanging thing, now vachang is just as good as the anything else.
doublelongdaddy;698595 said:I will check the ip of youknowme123321 and let everyone know if there were multiple accounts.