I enjoy this forum. Always have even as I've come and gone with how much time I spend on here. The one correlation I've made is when I stay active on here i stay more active in my PE routine. I appreciate everybody who takes the time to help with what follows. I just want to know if I am really in the wrong in others eyes as well.
Today I had a run in with ADF that has really bothered me. I was asked by a member who watched my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] video what I use for a wrap b/c he has been having trouble with his wrap. I told him "unfortunately it is a secret right now...It is the first wrap that ever worked for me well besides when I used toilet paper. believe it or not the toilet paper worked well hahaha. I may end up selling this wrap one day." Brother ADF then responded to my comment to the other member, "If DLD kept all his secrets secret, then you would not be as far along as you now are with PE. So tell us your secret wrap so we can all move along home together as one Brotherhood. I am pretty good at wrapping and even have a sticky about it, but other guys here are not as fortunate as us and need help w/ such issues. Just saying.....
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Me and him went back and forth because I did not appreciate him demeaning my work and my choice to continue to work on it before sharing it with anyone regardless of the possibility of me selling it one day. He demeaned my work by insinuating I am not here for the brotherhood and only for myself and business. He never asked me any questions about it. Just told me I wasn't supporting the brotherhood and essentially saying I'm selfish and don't care about the brotherhood.
I don't feel as though I am not supporting the brotherhood. This wrap is just something I came up with and am working to perfect just like DLD and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] before I release it. I am also working to secure manufacturers so I can have things uniformly sized correctly so people don't have to go through the trouble i have with buying large amounts of material to make something very small.
I hope to get others opinions on this b/c I am hoping I don't seem like I am just some schemer as ADF called me in a post a few minutes ago. Below I will attach our conversation and link it.
It all starts at post #38 and goes until the end of the thread
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83809-Video-using-lengthmaster/page2
He then made me question myself in another thread where i thought we were joking back and forth b/c of the use of lol's and 
though it ended up seeming he wasn't joking b/c he said to me, "I would not support your personal money making scheme with your secret wrap. Calling me a personal money making schemer i found to be rude, uncalled for and again made me wonder if I am in the wrong. But I think back to DLD and all the other PE equipment designers who took their time to make good products before sharing and/or selling them and i believe i am just doing that. I have been working on this a a very long time and am continuing to work on it to improve the wrap. I hope to create the best wrap ever.
here is that thread. it started on post #1928 (and these first posts here were before ADF and I ever had direct messaging with each other) the recent ones from tonight were bothersome but stemmed from yesterdays posts.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...cial-order-thread-now-shipping-2014!!!/page97
obi1
Re: Video using [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]
youknowme123321, how do YOU wrap for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]? I've tried DLD's, supra, kingD, stillwantmore, fedora, and superdick's wrapping method. and with all of them I get a lot of pressure on the glans, and I don't see how you guys can stretch at full strength, without the head pressure. that's why I would like to know your(youknowme123321) wrapping method.
youknowme123321
Re: Video using [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]
unfortunately it is a secret right now...It is the first wrap that ever worked for me well besides when I used toilet paper. believe it or not the toilet paper worked well hahaha.
I may end up selling this wrap one day. very cheap materials.
ADF
Share Your Secret Brother 123321
If DLD kept all his secrets secret, then you would not be as far along as you now are with PE. So tell us your secret wrap so we can all move along home together as one Brotherhood. I am pretty good at wrapping and even have a sticky about it, but other guys here are not as fortunate as us and need help w/ such issues. Just saying.....
youknowme123321
continue moving along...DLD didn't just give away everything he came up with right away...some yes, some no. I went through many wraps and will continue to perfect this one and do as I please with it. I will also continue to share what I want with the brotherhood here through ideas and support and will have no worries about your judgement as to what i should share. just saying......
ADF
I was not judging you and you can do anything you want with you secret precious wrap. Again just saying......
youknowme123321
yes you were...you said I should share my wrap based on your judgement that I wouldn't be as far along in PE as I am if DLD kept all his secrets secret. It was your belief that I should share something I didn't want to based on the brotherhood here and therefore it is implied that if I don't I am not supporting the brotherhood...Judgement. Glad I could clear that up for you.
You are very passive aggressive as displayed by your "secret precious wrap" comment as well as your "again just saying" comments. Your "secret precious wrap comment" also makes me think you were the kid who was always player 1 on video games because its your video game...hahaha. Or you took your basketball home when you lost or weren't picked. Could be wrong about these things though.
This will probably fall on blind eyes but hopefully reading our conversation will make you see you shouldn't tell anyone to share anything they don't want no matter what their reason or your belief.
My last thought that I gathered from your brotherhood comment is I am surprised you did not provide support to me and my endeavors moving forward with something that could become a business venture for myself.
ADF
Take a Xanax and relax bro, it's no big deal. A business venture for yourself I will not support but one for the brotherhood here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] I will support. You sound young and immature to accuse me of judging you right off instead of thinking of the Brotherhood here. I don't really give a damn about your secret precious wrap and was just thinking about the guys here. But it seems you only want to think about yourself and what is financially good for you.
It was not a judgment but a suggestion to share your secret precious wrap. Just keep it or sell it I personally don't care. There is more to the BrotherHood here than you realize and maybe someday you will see that.
youknowme123321
You are very wrong and selfish. Based off your thought process nobody should do anything in PE that requires them to charge money. Did DLD give out the design for any of his PE equipment that he sells before he started selling them. The answer is no.
You are blind to see that this is something I am working on that I hope will be good enough to share someday with members here and elsewhere. Yes I hope it can make me money...just like DLD did & does with his PE ideas b/c it allows him to keep doing it. I'm sure DLD came up with ideas and after working on them himself he said forget it and some became the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LENGTHMASTER[/words].
You do care...that is why you commented in the first place. If you did not care you never would have told me what you believe I should do based on your beliefs (that is judgement). To think I only want to think about myself b/c I'm not ready to share something I have been working on for a long time is selfish and misguided (oh and it's judgemental lol). But expected by a judgemental person like yourself.
You do not realize what the brotherhood is about. You said you will not support a business venture for me but would support for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] brotherhood. My business venture I hope will be good for the brotherhood one day. Your lack of support for me is a lack of support for the brotherhood that i have and plan to continue to support both through my project and outside of it.
You expect people to do as you feel they should without any thought to their time or what it may bring in the future to the brotherhood. This is my project just like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] were DLD's projects. Do you feel DLD should share everything he is working on right now that he hopes will be good enough to share and sell or not sell in the future? Or can he keep working on whatever he may be working on and share for free or profit it when he is ready to do so? I look forward to your answers on that.
If you would open your xanax now and take one it would calm the arrogance within you and allow you to step back and see where your thought processes have broken down.
You should see that it makes you seem immature and young to tell that to someone as well as tell them what they should do. Again looking forward to your response about what DLD, or anyone for that matter who designs and sells PE tools, should do when designing something because according to you we are all selfish and don't support the brotherhood because we go out and put in time to improve the brotherhood whether it is something that may make us financial gains or not
youknowme123321
DLD also didn't share [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] with the brotherhood when he was first coming up with the idea..."what an ass" (in my ADF voice)
smerc
Re: Video using [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]
A. If your wrap is something you designed, like w/ products you made and everything. Then I could see your frustration w/ wanting to share it or just being asked to.
B. However, if it's a method/tactic of use w/ products that were given to you w/ the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], then it's a stingy stance to take to not want to openly divulge information on that. The same can be said w/ any wraps purchased online.
I'm just trying to put out the different point of views here. If you don't want to share something, that's all you. You have every right to share what you want or don't want to.
I will say though, if it's anything like "B.", then you're going to have a hard time wrapping it up as a product for sale. It would need to be more like an ebook if it's comprised of products that are easily obtainable online.
Don't really see what the issue is on the wrap. There are a lot of wrap techniques online if someone didn't want to pay for information on one.
youknowme123321
It would be ridiculous if it were just wrapping materials that came with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] or were readily known for being used to create a successful wrap lol. It does involve an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE bandage[/words] that can be seen in my pics and videos but beneath that is where the design is happening. One of the materials can be easily purchased online or in specialty type stores but only in large sizes that have to be cut down to size. And then another material i found that I haven't found online yet but can pick up at one local store. Just not for wholesale price. My wrap is very good but still working to make it even better as well as find a manufacturer where I can get these materials sized and wholesale. I have another idea to add to it that was inspired by a yoga product that may replace the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE bandage[/words] forever!!!
Thanks for your reasonable outsider perspective Smerc.
In the end I hope it is a wrap that works for everybody b/c of it's great comfort and to be able to sell these items together for the same price they would purchase them if they were able to go out and order them all from separate sources or actually be able to find them in stores as well as avoid having to resize and shape any of the materials. Also to have in depth videos on applying the wrap.
ADF
*ADF is done w/ this thread*
That was his last thread then it continued through email started by ADF
EMAIL
ADF
Apparently it makes no difference what I say or respond to you since your just going to twist it around to make me look bad for your own selfish gains. FYI DLD has completely given away for free all the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] info on the free forum. But it is not even mentioned on the members pay site. But you would know that if you were a real paying member. Are you a member of the lifetime members site?
You know that Flaming another member as you did me in post #46 and other posts, is against forum rules right?
youknowme123321
I am not twisting anything around. My points all make sense. You look bad b/c you told me to do something that you shouldn't you have. Otherwise you have to go say the same thing to anyone who has ever worked on something for PE with the plans to sell it. DLD included. That is your mistake, not mine. When I make a mistake I'm not afraid to admit it.
Everyone is aware he gave it away for free. Are you aware that he spent a lot of time on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] before sharing it? Are you aware of that? Are you aware that is the scenario I am in. I am working on something that I am not ready to share yet. Are you aware that before DLD sold the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] people knew he was working on something and just wasn't ready to share it yet?
You know that you were the first to flame another member in your first message when you told me what to do when you said, "So tell us your secret wrap so we can all move along home together as one Brotherhood." which rudely insinuates I am not for supporting members here. And again when you said take a xanax and relax. Here is another quote, "A business venture for yourself I will not support but one for the brotherhood here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] I will support. You sound young and immature to accuse me of judging you right off instead of thinking of the Brotherhood here." I don't really give a damn about your secret precious wrap and was just thinking about the guys here. But it seems you only want to think about yourself and what is financially good for you." Now blatantly saying I don't support the brotherhood when I am doing just as DLD and others have done before me. And again in calling me young and immature when I back up everything I say with valid points. You though do not provide any. You just try to put me, my goals, and my projects down that I hope will move the brotherhood forward which DLD inspired me to do.
And you still do not call out DLD on holding back things at first like you do me. Why was it ok for him and others to do that at first but not me?
In post #46 I was not directly calling you an ass. I was sarcastically calling DLD an ass for not telling everybody about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] right when he began working on the idea even though it wasn't a complete theory and form of training yet. And i was doing so in my ADF voice because you got on my case about not sharing something that isn't completely done and I am still working on. So I used your "voice" to do the same to DLD.
ADF
OK bro, have a nice day. Hope you have success w/ your product.
youknowme123321
thanks bro
That was the end of our privates
I then went on to dicuss wrapping with obi1 a bit.
Today I had a run in with ADF that has really bothered me. I was asked by a member who watched my [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] video what I use for a wrap b/c he has been having trouble with his wrap. I told him "unfortunately it is a secret right now...It is the first wrap that ever worked for me well besides when I used toilet paper. believe it or not the toilet paper worked well hahaha. I may end up selling this wrap one day." Brother ADF then responded to my comment to the other member, "If DLD kept all his secrets secret, then you would not be as far along as you now are with PE. So tell us your secret wrap so we can all move along home together as one Brotherhood. I am pretty good at wrapping and even have a sticky about it, but other guys here are not as fortunate as us and need help w/ such issues. Just saying.....
.Me and him went back and forth because I did not appreciate him demeaning my work and my choice to continue to work on it before sharing it with anyone regardless of the possibility of me selling it one day. He demeaned my work by insinuating I am not here for the brotherhood and only for myself and business. He never asked me any questions about it. Just told me I wasn't supporting the brotherhood and essentially saying I'm selfish and don't care about the brotherhood.
I don't feel as though I am not supporting the brotherhood. This wrap is just something I came up with and am working to perfect just like DLD and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] before I release it. I am also working to secure manufacturers so I can have things uniformly sized correctly so people don't have to go through the trouble i have with buying large amounts of material to make something very small.
I hope to get others opinions on this b/c I am hoping I don't seem like I am just some schemer as ADF called me in a post a few minutes ago. Below I will attach our conversation and link it.
It all starts at post #38 and goes until the end of the thread
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83809-Video-using-lengthmaster/page2
He then made me question myself in another thread where i thought we were joking back and forth b/c of the use of lol's and
though it ended up seeming he wasn't joking b/c he said to me, "I would not support your personal money making scheme with your secret wrap. Calling me a personal money making schemer i found to be rude, uncalled for and again made me wonder if I am in the wrong. But I think back to DLD and all the other PE equipment designers who took their time to make good products before sharing and/or selling them and i believe i am just doing that. I have been working on this a a very long time and am continuing to work on it to improve the wrap. I hope to create the best wrap ever.here is that thread. it started on post #1928 (and these first posts here were before ADF and I ever had direct messaging with each other) the recent ones from tonight were bothersome but stemmed from yesterdays posts.
http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/...cial-order-thread-now-shipping-2014!!!/page97
obi1
Re: Video using [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]
youknowme123321, how do YOU wrap for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words]? I've tried DLD's, supra, kingD, stillwantmore, fedora, and superdick's wrapping method. and with all of them I get a lot of pressure on the glans, and I don't see how you guys can stretch at full strength, without the head pressure. that's why I would like to know your(youknowme123321) wrapping method.
youknowme123321
Re: Video using [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]
unfortunately it is a secret right now...It is the first wrap that ever worked for me well besides when I used toilet paper. believe it or not the toilet paper worked well hahaha.
I may end up selling this wrap one day. very cheap materials.
ADF
Share Your Secret Brother 123321
If DLD kept all his secrets secret, then you would not be as far along as you now are with PE. So tell us your secret wrap so we can all move along home together as one Brotherhood. I am pretty good at wrapping and even have a sticky about it, but other guys here are not as fortunate as us and need help w/ such issues. Just saying.....
youknowme123321
continue moving along...DLD didn't just give away everything he came up with right away...some yes, some no. I went through many wraps and will continue to perfect this one and do as I please with it. I will also continue to share what I want with the brotherhood here through ideas and support and will have no worries about your judgement as to what i should share. just saying......
ADF
I was not judging you and you can do anything you want with you secret precious wrap. Again just saying......
youknowme123321
yes you were...you said I should share my wrap based on your judgement that I wouldn't be as far along in PE as I am if DLD kept all his secrets secret. It was your belief that I should share something I didn't want to based on the brotherhood here and therefore it is implied that if I don't I am not supporting the brotherhood...Judgement. Glad I could clear that up for you.
You are very passive aggressive as displayed by your "secret precious wrap" comment as well as your "again just saying" comments. Your "secret precious wrap comment" also makes me think you were the kid who was always player 1 on video games because its your video game...hahaha. Or you took your basketball home when you lost or weren't picked. Could be wrong about these things though.
This will probably fall on blind eyes but hopefully reading our conversation will make you see you shouldn't tell anyone to share anything they don't want no matter what their reason or your belief.
My last thought that I gathered from your brotherhood comment is I am surprised you did not provide support to me and my endeavors moving forward with something that could become a business venture for myself.
ADF
Take a Xanax and relax bro, it's no big deal. A business venture for yourself I will not support but one for the brotherhood here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] I will support. You sound young and immature to accuse me of judging you right off instead of thinking of the Brotherhood here. I don't really give a damn about your secret precious wrap and was just thinking about the guys here. But it seems you only want to think about yourself and what is financially good for you.
It was not a judgment but a suggestion to share your secret precious wrap. Just keep it or sell it I personally don't care. There is more to the BrotherHood here than you realize and maybe someday you will see that.
youknowme123321
You are very wrong and selfish. Based off your thought process nobody should do anything in PE that requires them to charge money. Did DLD give out the design for any of his PE equipment that he sells before he started selling them. The answer is no.
You are blind to see that this is something I am working on that I hope will be good enough to share someday with members here and elsewhere. Yes I hope it can make me money...just like DLD did & does with his PE ideas b/c it allows him to keep doing it. I'm sure DLD came up with ideas and after working on them himself he said forget it and some became the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LENGTHMASTER[/words].
You do care...that is why you commented in the first place. If you did not care you never would have told me what you believe I should do based on your beliefs (that is judgement). To think I only want to think about myself b/c I'm not ready to share something I have been working on for a long time is selfish and misguided (oh and it's judgemental lol). But expected by a judgemental person like yourself.
You do not realize what the brotherhood is about. You said you will not support a business venture for me but would support for the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] brotherhood. My business venture I hope will be good for the brotherhood one day. Your lack of support for me is a lack of support for the brotherhood that i have and plan to continue to support both through my project and outside of it.
You expect people to do as you feel they should without any thought to their time or what it may bring in the future to the brotherhood. This is my project just like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PA[/words] and [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] were DLD's projects. Do you feel DLD should share everything he is working on right now that he hopes will be good enough to share and sell or not sell in the future? Or can he keep working on whatever he may be working on and share for free or profit it when he is ready to do so? I look forward to your answers on that.
If you would open your xanax now and take one it would calm the arrogance within you and allow you to step back and see where your thought processes have broken down.
You should see that it makes you seem immature and young to tell that to someone as well as tell them what they should do. Again looking forward to your response about what DLD, or anyone for that matter who designs and sells PE tools, should do when designing something because according to you we are all selfish and don't support the brotherhood because we go out and put in time to improve the brotherhood whether it is something that may make us financial gains or not
youknowme123321
DLD also didn't share [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] with the brotherhood when he was first coming up with the idea..."what an ass" (in my ADF voice)
smerc
Re: Video using [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words]
A. If your wrap is something you designed, like w/ products you made and everything. Then I could see your frustration w/ wanting to share it or just being asked to.
B. However, if it's a method/tactic of use w/ products that were given to you w/ the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words], then it's a stingy stance to take to not want to openly divulge information on that. The same can be said w/ any wraps purchased online.
I'm just trying to put out the different point of views here. If you don't want to share something, that's all you. You have every right to share what you want or don't want to.
I will say though, if it's anything like "B.", then you're going to have a hard time wrapping it up as a product for sale. It would need to be more like an ebook if it's comprised of products that are easily obtainable online.
Don't really see what the issue is on the wrap. There are a lot of wrap techniques online if someone didn't want to pay for information on one.
youknowme123321
It would be ridiculous if it were just wrapping materials that came with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] or were readily known for being used to create a successful wrap lol. It does involve an [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE bandage[/words] that can be seen in my pics and videos but beneath that is where the design is happening. One of the materials can be easily purchased online or in specialty type stores but only in large sizes that have to be cut down to size. And then another material i found that I haven't found online yet but can pick up at one local store. Just not for wholesale price
. My wrap is very good but still working to make it even better as well as find a manufacturer where I can get these materials sized and wholesale. I have another idea to add to it that was inspired by a yoga product that may replace the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?44-Ace-Strapped-Jims-Joint]ACE bandage[/words] forever!!!Thanks for your reasonable outsider perspective Smerc.
In the end I hope it is a wrap that works for everybody b/c of it's great comfort and to be able to sell these items together for the same price they would purchase them if they were able to go out and order them all from separate sources or actually be able to find them in stores as well as avoid having to resize and shape any of the materials. Also to have in depth videos on applying the wrap.
ADF
*ADF is done w/ this thread*
That was his last thread then it continued through email started by ADF
ADF
Apparently it makes no difference what I say or respond to you since your just going to twist it around to make me look bad for your own selfish gains. FYI DLD has completely given away for free all the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] info on the free forum. But it is not even mentioned on the members pay site. But you would know that if you were a real paying member. Are you a member of the lifetime members site?
You know that Flaming another member as you did me in post #46 and other posts, is against forum rules right?
youknowme123321
I am not twisting anything around. My points all make sense. You look bad b/c you told me to do something that you shouldn't you have. Otherwise you have to go say the same thing to anyone who has ever worked on something for PE with the plans to sell it. DLD included. That is your mistake, not mine. When I make a mistake I'm not afraid to admit it.
Everyone is aware he gave it away for free. Are you aware that he spent a lot of time on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] before sharing it? Are you aware of that? Are you aware that is the scenario I am in. I am working on something that I am not ready to share yet. Are you aware that before DLD sold the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] people knew he was working on something and just wasn't ready to share it yet?
You know that you were the first to flame another member in your first message when you told me what to do when you said, "So tell us your secret wrap so we can all move along home together as one Brotherhood." which rudely insinuates I am not for supporting members here. And again when you said take a xanax and relax. Here is another quote, "A business venture for yourself I will not support but one for the brotherhood here on [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MoS[/words] I will support. You sound young and immature to accuse me of judging you right off instead of thinking of the Brotherhood here." I don't really give a damn about your secret precious wrap and was just thinking about the guys here. But it seems you only want to think about yourself and what is financially good for you." Now blatantly saying I don't support the brotherhood when I am doing just as DLD and others have done before me. And again in calling me young and immature when I back up everything I say with valid points. You though do not provide any. You just try to put me, my goals, and my projects down that I hope will move the brotherhood forward which DLD inspired me to do.
And you still do not call out DLD on holding back things at first like you do me. Why was it ok for him and others to do that at first but not me?
In post #46 I was not directly calling you an ass. I was sarcastically calling DLD an ass for not telling everybody about [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] right when he began working on the idea even though it wasn't a complete theory and form of training yet. And i was doing so in my ADF voice because you got on my case about not sharing something that isn't completely done and I am still working on. So I used your "voice" to do the same to DLD.
ADF
OK bro, have a nice day. Hope you have success w/ your product.
youknowme123321
thanks bro
That was the end of our privates
I then went on to dicuss wrapping with obi1 a bit.
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