My thoughts to all of you out of LOVE
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MAXAMEYES;416302 said:
Ok, I'll continue to read it over and think about it.
Sincerely,
BxB
REDZULU2003
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At least more posts are happening in this section 
MAXAMEYES;416302 said:
I don't know what to think dude, i've read this over with an open mind and don't see anything wrong or incorrect. Can you explain your thinking on this one please?
BxB
What it means is that it is all you need...for meaning.
All the blesseds, all the curseds, all the begats, all the shall do's and shall nots. All meaningless, useless and worthless, if you can't love & treat all of life as if it was worth your entire soul.
Not one letter, not one word, not one law; if your heart is empty.
If your heart & mind and soul are full; even the Bible itself is superfluous.
In the end, it's just a book.
Now go and study.
All the blesseds, all the curseds, all the begats, all the shall do's and shall nots. All meaningless, useless and worthless, if you can't love & treat all of life as if it was worth your entire soul.
Not one letter, not one word, not one law; if your heart is empty.
If your heart & mind and soul are full; even the Bible itself is superfluous.
In the end, it's just a book.
Now go and study.
REDZULU2003
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I understand where your coming from I think. The bible or any holy text for that matter is not going to change or alter someone into a good person or whatever if they dont have the heart and desire inside them? is this what you mean Max? I agree with what I just typed anyway.
You have to not be brainwashed and understand it to an extent, otherwise your just imo a sheep that is nothing individual than others who do the same and I also believe that god the creator and our lord Jesus Christ wouldn't judge us negatively for being different or not following something to the letter, so long as we were good at heart, confess sins and change yourself to alter that way ... this is important, no point confessing if you never want to change or make the effort. Be kind to people where you can, tip people when you can i.e. after a haircut to show gratitude ... one doesn't have to go into church regularly and know every chapter and verse of the bible to be angelic and pure ... thats archaic nonsense imo and makes no one better than the other ....
Max, its in the heart & soul thats for sure and I have known rough guys who came from prisons that ended up inside for violence being an example, but lived hard lives sometimes in the army and they found God while inside yet dont go church everyday or pray everyday yet they were some of the best men I knew afterwards, because they opened their heart to god and allowed the goodness from within to outshine the darkness and make a difference ... without having to rant about chapter and verse of a holy book which some church goers would say I'm bad for saying ... I know of some in the past who would say I'm not worthy of my religion if I dont go to church which is silly... god clearly states that anyone can pray and worship him .. get this ... ANYWHERE at ANYTIME incl I'm sure its been the gallows awaiting death, indeed the late Saddam Hussein did that did he not? albeit to Allah through his faith.
I will say that I do not negatively view or judge those that read the holy scriptures chapter & verse or go into the church daily, pray daily etc as its choice. Shows dedication but what I'm saying is people can do much less and still be as good, at the end though no one can judge you but he and I quote the late Mother Teresa
You have to not be brainwashed and understand it to an extent, otherwise your just imo a sheep that is nothing individual than others who do the same and I also believe that god the creator and our lord Jesus Christ wouldn't judge us negatively for being different or not following something to the letter, so long as we were good at heart, confess sins and change yourself to alter that way ... this is important, no point confessing if you never want to change or make the effort. Be kind to people where you can, tip people when you can i.e. after a haircut to show gratitude ... one doesn't have to go into church regularly and know every chapter and verse of the bible to be angelic and pure ... thats archaic nonsense imo and makes no one better than the other ....
Max, its in the heart & soul thats for sure and I have known rough guys who came from prisons that ended up inside for violence being an example, but lived hard lives sometimes in the army and they found God while inside yet dont go church everyday or pray everyday yet they were some of the best men I knew afterwards, because they opened their heart to god and allowed the goodness from within to outshine the darkness and make a difference ... without having to rant about chapter and verse of a holy book which some church goers would say I'm bad for saying ... I know of some in the past who would say I'm not worthy of my religion if I dont go to church which is silly... god clearly states that anyone can pray and worship him .. get this ... ANYWHERE at ANYTIME incl I'm sure its been the gallows awaiting death, indeed the late Saddam Hussein did that did he not? albeit to Allah through his faith.
I will say that I do not negatively view or judge those that read the holy scriptures chapter & verse or go into the church daily, pray daily etc as its choice. Shows dedication but what I'm saying is people can do much less and still be as good, at the end though no one can judge you but he and I quote the late Mother Teresa
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MAXAMEYES;416970 said:
When you say "it" i don't know whether you are talking about the bible passage of Mathew 22 or if you are talking about the Lord God. In post number 21, Just let "it" sink in a bit, I believe you are referring to the passage of Mathew 22. At no point in that passage does it say that the passage is "all you need", so i can't understand where you are going with this statement.
MAXAMEYES;416970 said:
Regardless if we agree or disagree i just want you to know that i care about you and i want you to know what i believe is true. If there were a heaven that the bible talks about, i would want you to be there my friend.
Sinserly,
BxB
First thing about this statement is that Mathew 22:37 does not speak of how we are to treat life, it specifically says that we are to love the Lord your God with all our heart, soul and mind not your altered version of "love & treat all of life as if it was worth your entire soul", that is absolutely not what the verse says. I am sorry to sound picky but if we accidentally alter what it is the bible is saying it can now become easy to believe that parts of it are twisted, untrue and unfeasible. All i'm trying to do here is point out that the bible is true and that there is nothing incorrect about it, i will continue to show you.
MAXAMEYES;416970 said:
Ok, this seems true but as a true christian your heart will not be empty, it will be filled with the Spirit. Do you think i'm wrong here?
MAXAMEYES;416970 said:
I guess i can only share an opinion here. I believe that the bible repeats itself and gives a great deal of information often implying importance on a certain topic. I understand this statement though, at times i wonder why the bible will give so much detail, but all i can say is that it is important beyond what i know if it is stated.
MAXAMEYES;416970 said:
I'm doing my best. Are you implying that i am not studying?
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MAXAMEYES;416970 said:
When you say "it" i don't know whether you are talking about the bible passage of Mathew 22 or if you are talking about the Lord God. In post number 21, Just let "it" sink in a bit, I believe you are referring to the passage of Mathew 22. At no point in that passage does it say that the passage is "all you need", so i can't understand where you are going with this statement.
MAXAMEYES;416970 said:
First thing about this statement is that Mathew 22:37 does not speak of how we are to treat life, it specifically says that we are to love the Lord your God with all our heart, soul and mind not your altered version of "love & treat all of life as if it was worth your entire soul", that is absolutely not what the verse says. I am sorry to sound picky but if we accidentally alter what it is the bible is saying it can now become easy to believe that parts of it are twisted, untrue and unfeasible. All i'm trying to do here is point out that the bible is true and that there is nothing incorrect about it, i will continue to show you.
MAXAMEYES;416970 said:
Ok, this seems true but as a true christian your heart will not be empty, it will be filled with the Spirit. Do you think i'm wrong here?
MAXAMEYES;416970 said:
I guess i can only share an opinion here. I believe that the bible repeats itself and gives a great deal of information often implying importance on a certain topic. I understand this statement though, at times i wonder why the bible will give so much detail, but all i can say is that it is important beyond what i know if it is stated.
MAXAMEYES;416970 said:
I'm doing my best. Are you implying that i am not studying?
Regardless if we agree or disagree i just want you to know that i care about you and i want you to know what i believe is true. If there were a heaven that the bible talks about, i would want you to be there my friend.
Sincerly,
BxB
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B-boy, this is not a debate. I', m not going to try to open your mind, I got better things to do with my life. I could sit here, copy and paste for years, all to no discernable conclusion.
I'll just leave you with one of the, literally hundreds, of blatantly contradictory Bible passages that convinced me, without a shred of doubt, that the Bible as we know it is a flawed and incomplete document.
And all of your apologistic gymnastics will never, ever convince me otherwise.
Also; having never met any one of my great grandfathers, I sure as hell ain't suffering for their actions.
Isaiah 14:21 Prepare for his sons a place of slaughter
Because of the iniquity of their fathers.
They must not arise and take possession of the earth
And fill the face of the world with cities.
Exodus 20:5 You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,
Yet directly contradicted here:
Deut. 24:16 Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin.
Ezek.18:20 "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punisHydromaxent for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punisHydromaxent for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.
I'll just leave you with one of the, literally hundreds, of blatantly contradictory Bible passages that convinced me, without a shred of doubt, that the Bible as we know it is a flawed and incomplete document.
And all of your apologistic gymnastics will never, ever convince me otherwise.
Also; having never met any one of my great grandfathers, I sure as hell ain't suffering for their actions.
Isaiah 14:21 Prepare for his sons a place of slaughter
Because of the iniquity of their fathers.
They must not arise and take possession of the earth
And fill the face of the world with cities.
Exodus 20:5 You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me,
Yet directly contradicted here:
Deut. 24:16 Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin.
Ezek.18:20 "The person who sins will die. The son will not bear the punisHydromaxent for the father's iniquity, nor will the father bear the punisHydromaxent for the son's iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.
REDZULU2003
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Allot of this as well comes from the Hebrew version of the bible and not the Catholic variant.
If I am not mistaken you said you were seeking the truth? You will never find the truth reading the bible ,qur'an or any other "holy book".
Religion is a poison,and it's really sad to see people in 21st century typing on forum that they are right and if you think differently you have been controlled by the devil... Who are you to tell me I am wrong? Why would I go to this place you call hell just because I don't believe what you believe? What about other people who have different believes? What if I was born on a tropical island and never got in touch with any book or belief system- will I go to hell ,will Jesus abandon me because I never accepted him as my savior? Do you ever think about the absurdity of priests and churches? Do you have any idea how idiotic that actually is,to say some priest is someone with more power who has the ability to forgive me by saying I have to pray for 15 minutes? And why would I even have to go to him in the first place? It's all about a perverted way to clear your conscious by lying to yourself that everything is gonna be alright if you get forgiveness from a ordinary human just like yourself that you assigned power to by following a religion as he does.Not only that but it also gives you a dangerous weapon ,a thought that even if you do harm you will be forgiven just by saying I'm sorry in a form of prayer.
One more thing, I am a guy that is very interested in spirituality ,quantum mechanics,meditation,mysticism and personal growth in general,in any way shape or form. My journey has led me to meditation as a practical and individual way to truth and happiness and I would recommend it to everyone Little by little as you live in the present moment more and more you will start to realize the people sleepwalking past you in every part of your life, self proclaimed "saved" or religiously-enlightened-touched-by-Jesus people along with priests are the most interesting to observe :blush:
Since we are on Penis Enlargement forum ....finding truth and enlarging a penis using these 2 methods...
Religious: Believe and it shall grow!
Meditation: Practice daily and you will get results.
Which one would you choose ?:blush:
rofl just kidding a bit
I decided to get into this thread in a hope that I will get answer different than what I usually get 1) bible quotations 2) "God works in mysterious way" 3) " God ways are so much higher than we can understand " ... and so on... For once I hope I will get a rational answer,but than again .... how can I expect rational from the irrational ?:blush:
Religion is a poison,and it's really sad to see people in 21st century typing on forum that they are right and if you think differently you have been controlled by the devil... Who are you to tell me I am wrong? Why would I go to this place you call hell just because I don't believe what you believe? What about other people who have different believes? What if I was born on a tropical island and never got in touch with any book or belief system- will I go to hell ,will Jesus abandon me because I never accepted him as my savior? Do you ever think about the absurdity of priests and churches? Do you have any idea how idiotic that actually is,to say some priest is someone with more power who has the ability to forgive me by saying I have to pray for 15 minutes? And why would I even have to go to him in the first place? It's all about a perverted way to clear your conscious by lying to yourself that everything is gonna be alright if you get forgiveness from a ordinary human just like yourself that you assigned power to by following a religion as he does.Not only that but it also gives you a dangerous weapon ,a thought that even if you do harm you will be forgiven just by saying I'm sorry in a form of prayer.
One more thing, I am a guy that is very interested in spirituality ,quantum mechanics,meditation,mysticism and personal growth in general,in any way shape or form. My journey has led me to meditation as a practical and individual way to truth and happiness and I would recommend it to everyone
Little by little as you live in the present moment more and more you will start to realize the people sleepwalking past you in every part of your life, self proclaimed "saved" or religiously-enlightened-touched-by-Jesus people along with priests are the most interesting to observe :blush: Since we are on Penis Enlargement forum ....finding truth and enlarging a penis using these 2 methods...
Religious: Believe and it shall grow!
Meditation: Practice daily and you will get results.
Which one would you choose ?:blush:
rofl just kidding a bit
I decided to get into this thread in a hope that I will get answer different than what I usually get 1) bible quotations 2) "God works in mysterious way" 3) " God ways are so much higher than we can understand " ... and so on... For once I hope I will get a rational answer,but than again .... how can I expect rational from the irrational ?:blush:
MAXAMEYES;417265 said:
Hey Max,I was addressing BANANAxBOY because he started the thread but anyone can comment. My questions are in my post in the first paragraph ( sentences that end with a question mark )
And BANANAxBOY , my first post there may have been a little aggressive,didn't really mean to be like that.I like topics like this so I get a little worked up .
And if you're honest about your feelings of love it would be better to thank you than to bash you regardless what is the driving force behind it...
Cheers...
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REDZULU2003
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Alex to each his own and if meditation rocks your boat than good for you but religion plays a large part in many peoples lives mine incl. Meditation I have used often alongside religion with good results. I have seen miracles manifest many times. I dont want to see anyone here badgered into a corner because of someone else's ideology on how things are or should be because nothing is the bee all and end all, meditation, religion or anything else ... its to each individual choice.