My stack - Think its safe?

[johnny-wang]

I'd be starting one these very soon just wanted to know what you guys think. . Safe or Not?

Btw please suggest what you think is the ideal dosage for each, especially those with question marks.

1. L-Citrulline: 1000mg Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = 1000mg

2. Zinc: 50mg Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = 50mg

3. Pygeum: 100mg Strength. Taken 2 times daily. Total = 200mg

4. Lecithin: 1200mg Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = 1200mg

5. L-Tyrosine: 3000mg Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = 3000mg

6. L-Lysine : ???? Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = ????

7. L-Carnitine : ???? Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = ????

8. L-Arginine: 1000mg Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = 1000mg

9. L-Glutamine : ???? Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = ????


Would it be safe to take Cialis/Viagra once in a while, while on these?

 

[templnite]

I wouldn't spend my money on that stuff mostly because I'm gaining well with just a balanced diet.
What kind of creature gets nutrition from pills?XD mastermind that's who.

 

[johnny-wang]

I wouldn't spend my money on that stuff mostly because I'm gaining well with just a balanced diet.
What kind of creature gets nutrition from pills?XD mastermind that's who.

Lol. . I am a lil skinny for a 6 ft guy. . . So I will be doing GOMAD accompanied by some heavy eating and workouts soon lol, just wanted to add these to the mix!

 

[templnite]

I went from 130lb to 165lb just from powerlifting, and eating well. I did used to take nitrotech, but I'm sure cytogainer is just as good protein for much less $.

Also used gnc brand pre-workout its really good.

 

[johnny-wang]

I went from 130lb to 165lb just from powerlifting, and eating well. I did used to take nitrotech, but I'm sure cytogainer is just as good protein for much less $.

Also used gnc brand pre-workout its really good.

Thanks for the info bro. . . Good stuff!!

 

[Tearitup]

I take nearly everything on your list plus other stuff. You're okay with all of it. Does it help? Sure but a good diet, working out hard and recovery is the most important. All that stuff is just a SUPPLEMENT to what's really important .... and for me, it's just a hobby really.

If you're older like me (45) you may want to get a pro-hormone or testosterone gel. If you're younger, stay away.

 

[johnny-wang]

I take nearly everything on your list plus other stuff. You're okay with all of it. Does it help? Sure but a good diet, working out hard and recovery is the most important. All that stuff is just a SUPPLEMENT to what's really important .... and for me, it's just a hobby really.

If you're older like me (45) you may want to get a pro-hormone or testosterone gel. If you're younger, stay away.

Please do tell, what effect do these supplements have on you? I am aiming for something don't want to say what. . . I'd prefer if you unknowingly mention it.

 

[ShadedSam]

Definitely safe but useless. Most of those are in protein powder, so just get some protein powder and a ZMA supplement and you'll be good.

 

[DLD]

Wow, I am so glad there are men here that understand this stuff, it gets my head spinning!

 

[johnny-wang]

Definitely safe but useless. Most of those are in protein powder, so just get some protein powder and a ZMA supplement and you'll be good.

Not looking at taking these pills for BB. . . More like male enhancement, if you may. Particularly read about L-Tyrosine, Zinc, L-Citrulline and Pygeum and Lecithin
for increased "load" volume.

 

[maxsheba12]

Lol. . I am a lil skinny for a 6 ft guy. . . So I will be doing GOMAD accompanied by some heavy eating and workouts soon lol, just wanted to add these to the mix!

Please, for gods sake. Don't do GOMAD. There are plenty of other ways to gain weight and size. Google bulking/cutting and use that as a rule of thumb. You may gain muscle on GOMAD but a large majority is going to be fat. Which is gonna be a pain in the ass to get off. Take it from me, i did GOMAD two years ago went from 7.5% body fat to 16% after a month.

 

[johnny-wang]

Please, for gods sake. Don't do GOMAD. There are plenty of other ways to gain weight and size. Google bulking/cutting and use that as a rule of thumb. You may gain muscle on GOMAD but a large majority is going to be fat. Which is gonna be a pain in the ass to get off. Take it from me, i did GOMAD two years ago went from 7.5% body fat to 16% after a month.

Thanks bro although, I am going to be working my ass off like crazy while on GOMAD. Doing Cardio and all. . .

 

[DLD]

A gallon of milk a day? That will be all fat that you gain.

 

[johnny-wang]

A gallon of milk a day? That will be all fat that you gain.

That's the point. . . . . I am already pretty lean, veiny and muscular

 

[DLD]

That's the point. . . . . I am already pretty lean, veiny and muscular

Yah but that will be lost in fat if you drink a gallon of milk a day. There are much better things to eat and drink that will help you gain weight. GainersFuel is a great Metalabs supplement that will help you put on lean, muscle instead of fat. There may be other, even better supplements, but I have not checked those out as of lately.

 

[owmaballs]

I don't see why Cialis or Viagra would go badly with what are nutritional boosters. But I've never relied on ED pills so I have no experience whatsoever with those under any conditions. And after PE I have not had to.
For me it seems having a large cock and a practiced generation of the hormones driving its growth, is enough to get rock hard.

johnny,
take whatever you want to explore, but let your body & your results guide you.
Gallon of milk a day too. You know an overriding principle with the body?

The Goldilocks Principle
Too little, Too Much and just right

I see this elementary error & lost opportunity in people's accounts on the forum all the time.
"I am killing my dick and not getting the fastest growth!?! WTF?" --- you're overdoing it and not letting the body be at its optimum; certainly not with the recovery periods it needs to grow at its optimum rate...

"I am being so careful and ensuring I don't do anything that may surprise my cells or tax them. Why is nothing happening?" --- you're UNDERdoing it and not letting the body be at its optimum; certainly not reaching the levels of stimulus needed to incite hormonally sustained change so that the cells grow at their optimum rate...

Just Right - the ideal. What is just right for you? Whatever you did when your body was able to grow the fastest : )
Every body is different & no one can know it better than you will discover it by keeping track of your body's response.

The amount of milk your body would work optimally yields to the same principle. Milk has been shown to be an outstanding nutritional source. But even that taken too far becomes a de-optimizer not a greater optimizer of performance? You follow?

Onto Supplements>>>
Supplements are precisely that.. supplementary to what your body should be getting naturally. Think of them as cars use nitros to accelerate faster. They are boosts of chemical raw materials that your particular body may be short of on a particular day, but if there isn't a solid supply of all the other nutrients the body needs inside a well managed body free from stress and other detrimental loads, getting the right amount of sleep (6.5 to 8.5 hours) and allowing for the right unstressed recovery... then boosting the nitros in an otherwise badly managed engine and car will not get you there faster.

I'd lower the Zinc intake. I take half the amount you are taking, & split it to half in the morning and half at night.
Some of the supplements work best this way.
Some work best taken one hour before bed (hormone regulation reasons).
Some are absorbed most readily taken with food.
Some like the amino acids are best taken at least 1 hr before food with water to make certain they are not involved in any digestive process. They move through the stomach into the intestines to be absorbed into the body.

Zinc notes...
You lose all the Zinc in your body when you ejaculate... I would advise you to avoid this as much as possible, for two reasons:
1. mechanical: namely pressure in the penis is sustained - pressure will lead to alteration in the circulatory structures of the penis: arteries and veins... need I explain to you why you want larger circulatory structures in your penis for PE?
2. I find that if you edge without ejaculation or getting too close to cumming, then you maintain a high hormonal signaling state in the groin; this is when the penis reacts to adaptive signals from your sexual hormones T & DHT etc. and it is this that causes it to change.

You don't want to get to point where you feel the sperm flowing in your balls or cock shaft, that is too far into the process and may lead to pain & injury of the ducts. Learn to kegel to prevent getting to this point and rapidly shutting down the level of arousal by completely stopping stimulus, audio / visual / physical and mental.

I'd be starting one these very soon just wanted to know what you guys think. . Safe or Not?

Btw please suggest what you think is the ideal dosage for each, especially those with question marks.

1. L-Citrulline: 1000mg Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = 1000mg

2. Zinc: 50mg Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = 50mg

3. Pygeum: 100mg Strength. Taken 2 times daily. Total = 200mg

4. Lecithin: 1200mg Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = 1200mg

5. L-Tyrosine: 3000mg Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = 3000mg

6. L-Lysine : ???? Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = ????

7. L-Carnitine : ???? Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = ????

8. L-Arginine: 1000mg Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = 1000mg

9. L-Glutamine : ???? Strength. Taken 1 time daily. Total = ????

Would it be safe to take Cialis/Viagra once in a while, while on these?

 

[johnny-wang]

I don't see why Cialis or Viagra would go badly with what are nutritional boosters. But I've never been a sure of ED pills so I have no experience whatsoever with those under any conditions. And after PE I have not had to. Seems having a large cock and the hormones behind it is an aphrodisiac in itself.

johnny,
take whatever you want to explore, but let your body & your results guide you.
Gallon of milk a day too. You know an overriding principle with the body?
The Goldilocks Principle
Too little, Too Much and just right.
I see this elementary error & lost opportunity in people's accounts on the forum all the time.
"I am killing my dick and not getting the fastest growth!?! WTF?" --- you're overdoing it and not letting the body be at its optimum; certainly not with the recovery periods it needs to grow at its optimum rate...

"I am being so careful and ensuring I don't do anything that may surprise my cells or tax them. Why is nothing happening?" --- you're UNDERdoing it and not letting the body be at its optimum; certainly not reaching the levels of stimulus needed to incite hormonally sustained change so that the cells grow at their optimum rate...

Just Right - the ideal. What is just right for you? Whatever you did when your body was able to grow the fastest : )
Every body is different & no one can know it better than you will discover it by keeping track of your body's response.

The amount of milk your body would work optimally yields to the same principle. Milk has been shown to be an outstanding nutritional source. But even that taken too far becomes a de-optimizer not a greater optimizer of performance? You follow?

Onto Supplements>>>
Supplements are precisely that.. supplementary to what your body should be getting naturally. Think of them as cars use nitros to accelerate faster. They are boosts of chemical raw materials that your particular body may be short of on a particular day, but if there isn't a solid supply of all the other nutrients the body needs inside a well managed body free from stress and other detrimental loads, getting the right amount of sleep (6.5 to 8.5 hours) and allowing for the right unstressed recovery... then boosting the nitros in an otherwise badly managed engine and car will not get you there faster.

I'd lower the Zinc intake. I take half the amount you are taking, & split it to half in the morning and half at night.
Some of the supplements work best this way.
Some work best taken one hour before bed (hormone regulation reasons).
Some are absorbed most readily taken with food.
Some like the amino acids are best taken at least 1 hr before food with water to make certain they are not involved in any digestive process. They move through the stomach into the intestines to be absorbed into the body.

Zinc notes...
You lose all the Zinc in your body when you ejaculate... I would advise you to avoid this as much as possible, for two reasons:
1. mechanical: namely pressure in the penis is sustained - pressure will lead to alteration in the circulatory structures of the penis: arteries and veins... need I explain to you why you want larger circulatory structures in your penis for PE?
2. I find that if you edge without ejaculation or getting too close to cumming, then you maintain a high hormonal signaling state in the groin; this is when the penis reacts to adaptive signals from your sexual hormones T & DHT etc. and it is this that causes it to change.

You don't want to get to point where you feel the sperm flowing in your balls or cock shaft, that is too far into the process and may lead to pain & injury of the ducts. Learn to kegel to prevent getting to this point and rapidly shutting down the level of arousal by completely stopping stimulus, audio / visual / physical and mental.

Totally blown away by all of this. Very informative. Thanks a lot for the time spent, the effort and most importantly the info.

 

[DLD]

Totally blown away by all of this. Very informative. Thanks a lot for the time spent, the effort and most importantly the info.

Me too, thanks for the information!

 

[owmaballs]

Me too, thanks for the information!

Thanks for saying so and for your information Mike. And the passion you have to see [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]MOS[/words] to its fruition.

The fucked up but life-changing relationships I've had would not have been had without it.

 

[DLD]

The fucked up but life-changing relationships I've had would not have been had without it.

I feel you there my Brother, if I did not go through the Hell I have in my life I would have never started the Brotherhood. All things happen for a reason and sometimes that reason does not become obvious immediately. God has a grand dream for all his children!