What's in the stuff? I've used multiple 'pre workout' supplements/mixes in the past myself. To name a few: Superpump (aka "super-dump" because it was notorious for giving you the shits...me too), No-Explode, Stacker(insert the various numbers..I've tried em all), clenbuterol (the real stuff), Ragnorak, Black Powder, Animal Pump, Ultimate Orange (the REAL stuff from the mid 90's with ephedrine), Ripped Fuel (also the old school, real deal with ephedrine) . They all gave about the same amount of energy. I'm not the type that overly sensitive to stimulants and was between 5' 9" and 175-210lbs when I tried the various products. What's the best solution I've found so far for great energy before I hit the gym? 400mg of caffeine from 2, 200mg caffeine pills. No fancy mixes, no hyped up product names, just a plain old, boring $4.00 bottle of 80 pills at 200mg each. That's around 10 CENTS per workout

Plenty of energy, I feel normal, and always have a great workout. I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't have to feel like I'm 'wired' or like my heart's about to race out of my chest to have a great workout. A lot of that is psychological anyway. LOL, reminds me of a time in the Marines. Few of us were drinking buddies and there was a new kid in the platoon who'd never had a drink of anything in his life. He had no idea what O'Douls' was. 'Non alcoholic' beer. Anyway, we had a 6 pack of that stuff sitting in the fridge and one of the guys decided we'd mess with the new guy and "get him drunk". After his 3rd O'Douls' he starts talking about how "buzzed" he's getting. LOL Fun times.