Hello my name is Vash and I'm fairly new to penis enlargement (my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] arrived today, for example).

I'm having trouble deciding between [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMaster Pro[/words] for my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] choice.
SG is cheaper (thanks to that juicy discount DLD has managed to get for us, thanks man) and (claims to) extert a much greater force (2800 gr).
PMP is probably the most comfortable out there, but it's more expensive and also maximum strength is around 1150 gr I think.

So I was wondering which one to get and if you guys could enlighten me on how comfortable [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is or how important that increased force is (in [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] webpage they claim that the most important variable is time spent on the device, and not so much the force used). On a side note, I'm uncut (have read [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is easier to use for circumcised people).

Another question is about the cockring thing I read in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] post. It is usually not recommended to wear a cock ring for more than 30 min, but for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] it is stated that you need about 1-2 hours.... is there a catch to that? For example 30 min being a full erection and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] 1-2 hours half an erection?

My main concern is maximizing girth, most info is about gaining length but I would be happy even with my current length (even if it's pretty average). Is there any specific way I can work on it more specifically (i'm aware [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is specialized in girth)?.

Finally, I have heard horror stories about people who basically did some mild jelquing and got ED. So being a total newb I'm afraid of damaging my beloved dick, how do I go on about minimizing risks?

Thanks for your time.
 
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[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is cheaper (thanks to that juicy discount DLD has managed to get for us, thanks man) and (claims to) extert a much greater force (2800 gr).
[words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is probably the most comfortable out there, but it's more expensive and also maximum strength is around 1150 gr I think.

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Vash;711883 said:
So I was wondering which one to get and if you guys could enlighten me on how comfortable [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is or how important that increased force is (in [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] webpage they claim that the most important variable is time spent on the device, and not so much the force used). On a side note, I'm uncut (have read [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is easier to use for circumcised people).

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Vash;711883 said:
Another question is about the cockring thing I read in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] post. It is usually not recommended to wear a cock ring for more than 30 min, but for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] it is stated that you need about 1-2 hours.... is there a catch to that? For example 30 min being a full erection and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] 1-2 hours half an erection?

You want to wear the cockring as long as possible. The idea is to keep the expansion from your session as long as humanly possible. This is what makes the temporary gains permeant.

Vash;711883 said:
My main concern is maximizing girth, most info is about gaining length but I would be happy even with my current length (even if it's pretty average). Is there any specific way I can work on it more specifically (i'm aware [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is specialized in girth)?.

[words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]'s version of Girth Work is second to none. The routine is called the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] 5x5x3 workout. This utilizes the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]BathMate[/words] in the best way bringing incredible tissue expansion with very little water retention. This is explained in the girth section of [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words].

Vash;711883 said:
Finally, I have heard horror stories about people who basically did some mild jelquing and got ED. So being a total newb I'm afraid of damaging my beloved dick, how do I go on about minimizing risks?

They are just that, stories. If this statement was true the Brotherhood would have been doomed from the beginning. We practice the most effective but safe methods possible.
 
In addition to your length devices, you can get a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] and do bundled stretches after or before using your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words], [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words]. This will accelerate your gains.
 
The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] is a great place to start, you should also take a look through [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]. If you have the money to spend I definately suggest buying the [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]penimaster pro[/words] I love mine! After you get used to manual stretching you can maybe try hanging. I've been hanging for a little while and love it!

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But don't jump right into the hanging, take some time to learnt the basics first.
 
Vash;711883 said:
Hello my name is Vash and I'm fairly new to penis enlargement (my [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] arrived today, for example).

I'm having trouble deciding between [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sizegenetics[/words] and [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PeniMaster Pro[/words] for my [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] choice.
[words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is cheaper (thanks to that juicy discount DLD has managed to get for us, thanks man) and (claims to) extert a much greater force (2800 gr).
[words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] is probably the most comfortable out there, but it's more expensive and also maximum strength is around 1150 gr I think.

So I was wondering which one to get and if you guys could enlighten me on how comfortable [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is or how important that increased force is (in [words=https://www.internetzahlung.de/cc-aktuell/bestellung.php3?PID=PM0440A&Sprache=en]PMP[/words] webpage they claim that the most important variable is time spent on the device, and not so much the force used). On a side note, I'm uncut (have read [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] is easier to use for circumcised people).

Another question is about the cockring thing I read in the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] post. It is usually not recommended to wear a cock ring for more than 30 min, but for [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] it is stated that you need about 1-2 hours.... is there a catch to that? For example 30 min being a full erection and the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] 1-2 hours half an erection?

My main concern is maximizing girth, most info is about gaining length but I would be happy even with my current length (even if it's pretty average). Is there any specific way I can work on it more specifically (i'm aware [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] is specialized in girth)?.

Finally, I have heard horror stories about people who basically did some mild jelquing and got ED. So being a total newb I'm afraid of damaging my beloved dick, how do I go on about minimizing risks?

Thanks for your time.

I wouldn't worry about the increased forced.

When they talk about the force of the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] they are talking about the springs. You can always force bars in to go beyond the tension that the springs can provide.

In any case the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is most effective when used in conjunction with another form of stretching, be it manuals, hanging etc all of which provide way more force than the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words]. So in this scenario the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] would be used primarily for healing purposes aka "healing extended". Checkout the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] thread for more on this. If you are concerned about comfort, though Ive never used it personally Ive only heard amazing things of the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words] [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Forte[/words] as DLD mentioned.

If your main concern is girth look into the [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]Bathmate[/words] or other forms of girth work. Because though length and girth do compliment each other, the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] is primarily a length tool.
 
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- - - Updated - - -

But don't jump right into the hanging, take some time to learnt the basics first.

Indeed, the best two places to start and end :)
 
doublelongdaddy;713177 said:
Indeed, the best two places to start and end :)

Yup! I still do the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-newbie-forum/1597-dlds-first-routine-i-gained-2-inches-with-this-routine-full-tutorial.html]newbie routine[/words] and am now doing [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words]! I KNOW that it will bring me great gains in my future! :)
 
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