Ive been doing Bundled A stretchers as part of my routine and i'm wondering if you could hang in the same way,with the hanger in place and tight it is possible to twist the penis all the way around once,then you could hang with a fulcrum under the bottom of the shaft while sat on the edge of a chair.The poundages would need to be very light i would imagine.

Has this been done before and is it safe?
 
PA,

>Ive been doing Bundled A stretchers as part of my routine and i'm wondering if you could hang in the same way,with the hanger in place and tight it is possible to twist the penis all the way around once,then you could hang with a fulcrum under the bottom of the shaft while sat on the edge of a chair.The poundages would need to be very light i would imagine.<

Yes, it will be much more intense. Guys have done this before, and I believe it is called bundled hanging. The way you describe your technique, I would suppose it would be bundled fulcrum hanging.

>Has this been done before and is it safe?<

As long as you are totally flaccid, it should be fine. But you will need to really keep up with the amount of stress, and listen to your body.

Bigger
 
Bib i'm still hanging OTS at the minute but in a couple of weeks at the 2 month mark i'm going to change angle,lot has moved up slightly but its still well under 7.

Did you get any feed back from the guys who tried bundled hanging.

Do you think it be better to twist the whole shaft before tightening the hanger or tighten as normal and then twist the exsposed shaft.
 
PA,

>Did you get any feed back from the guys who tried bundled hanging.<

My best recollection is that it was about the time I left Thunders that guys were getting into it. I did not hear of any results, but by all reports, it was very intense. The key behind this, or fulcrum hanging, is that they are simply means by which to divide and conquer. Stressing different tissues in a concentrated manner.

>Do you think it be better to twist the whole shaft before tightening the hanger or tighten as normal and then twist the exsposed shaft.<

I would say you would need to tighten fully before twisting. The shaft would too easily turn in the shaft well if you tightened first.

Bigger
 
Hi Bib after my normal session today i tried one set bundled straight down to see what it was like,it felt good got a dull ache in the exsposed shaft very little lig pull and a small amount of skin stretch.

The skids of the hanger sat against the edge of the chair to stop the hanger unwinding.

Used 13lb for a 20 minute set glans was slightly cold and starting to go blue so i think 15min sets would a better option.

Think i am going to switch over to this in a week or two and im going to forget about the fulcrum for the moment,even though its a low angle do you think it would work the tunica.

Ive posted some pics could you have a look and give me your opinion,quality not that good because of having to turn the flash off the camera.

http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?p=175677#post175677

Thanks
 
PA,

Yes, that looks pretty good. You can see how that could be intense.

>Used 13lb for a 20 minute set glans was slightly cold and starting to go blue so i think 15min sets would a better option.<

Remember, when you twist, you are twisting the blood vessels also. So natureally, blood flow will be reduced.

>Think i am going to switch over to this in a week or two and im going to forget about the fulcrum for the moment,even though its a low angle do you think it would work the tunica.<

From the pics, it is obviously working the tunica.

Be sure to report your progress with this.

Bigger
 
Bib said:
Forgot: Also be sure to alternate directions of twist for each set.

Bigger

You read my mind,ive been thinking about that.

Tried a set today of 15 mins coldness and head colour much better,really like the way this feels.
 
Dex,

>Why is he working the tunica?He is hanging downward,close to btc.<

When the flaccid shaft is twisted, the fibers of the tunica are stressed according to the degree and direction of the twist. Some fibers are effectively "shortened", in relation to other fibers, and therefore receive more of a dedicated stretch.

All you have to do is try it to see the new stresses placed on the tunica.

Bigger
 
Started bundled hanging 3 days ago only doing 4x15min sets at moment until i get used to the feel of it,currently have time to hang for 6x15mins a day.

It is very intense but feels good,when the weight is first applied it has to be lowered very gently over about 20 seconds and feels very uncomfortable at first,after about a minute it passes and it feels very comfortable,i'm getting a nice dull ache in the exposed shaft.

I alternate the twist between sets and for some reason the weight feels heavier when the shaft is twisted to the right.

Using 13lb first two sets then dropping to 11lb for last two sets and think i will need to drop further when i add sets 5-6.

After a session while doing light dry jelqing i can feel a deep ache down the whole shaft,flaccid hang is also very good.

I can also kegal quite strongly and get a kickback while hanging this way.
 
PA,

That all sounds great.

Now, think about the mechanics of the twist. You are probably putting more stress on the outer layers of the tunica, and somewhat less on the septum of the tunica, which is fine. But at some point, you may get some good results from switching back to straight hanging, at the upper angles. When you stretch out the outer portions of the tunica, it will allow more stress to be placed on the septum with a normal hang without the twist. Divide and conquer.

Bigger
 
I see the theory and I see how this may produce gains, but I can see this being dangerous too. I recommend using very low weights at first when doing this. But as the saying goes "Bib knows best" :P
 
PenisHead,

>I see the theory and I see how this may produce gains, but I can see this being dangerous too. I recommend using very low weights at first when doing this. But as the saying goes "Bib knows best"<

You are correct. I have written warnings about this type of thing many times in the past, but I should have repeated them here.

Any time you place stresses on tissues that are multi-directional, the overall stress on certain fibers increases exponentially. You must start at lower weights, and move up slowly, until you find the max weight using that particular technique.

And of course, the only way to do this type of thing is in the totally flaccid state. Any of these types of stresses, with the addition of internal blood pressure, is a recipe for disaster.

Bigger
 
Bib whats the septum its not a term ive heard before apart from the one in your nose.

I was thinking of 6 weeks at this angle then six normal straight out then 6 twisted over the shoulder.

Its only been a week but one thing i have noticed is postworkout after some light jelqing the whole shaft becomes very engorged and fat,same way it did when i was doing heavy girth work.

penishead i understand what your saying and im being very careful with this,been peing over 3 years and hanging for a year so ive got pretty good conditioning.
 
PA,

>Bib whats the septum its not a term ive heard before apart from the one in your nose.<

Well, it is not unlike the one in your nose. It is where the individual tunica of the three chambers come together. It is a thicker area of collagenous tissue, and therefore tougher than the outer tunica which surround the individual chambers. Many guys describe this as a cord running down the shaft, and as their limiting factor.

>I was thinking of 6 weeks at this angle then six normal straight out then 6 twisted over the shoulder.<

That sounds like a good plan to start. But do not be afraid to modify it. You may find that after a couple weeks, the septum can take all the weight in a dedicated fashion, and be easier to deform.

>Its only been a week but one thing i have noticed is postworkout after some light jelqing the whole shaft becomes very engorged and fat,same way it did when i was doing heavy girth work.<

This could be a situation where the twisting is causing a stress to the lateral bonds of the tunica. I have not heard of it before, or considered it, but it seems it could be possible.

Bigger
 
Just another update,ive noticed that after the first 10 mins of a set the tissues of the shaft seem to relax,i don't feel this as such but when i first attach the hanger i can just comfortably manage to twist the shaft a full 360,but once the shaft has relaxed i can then get another quarter turn easily,it does make it very intense this way and ive only tried a few trial sets like this,10 mins hang then quater turn and 5 min hang continous set.

I am limited to amount of free time i have to hang,so i have to make each set count.

Bib i no you have never hung this way but would appreciate your opinion,do you think this is pushing it to far.
 
prince Albert said:
Ive been doing Bundled A stretchers as part of my routine and i'm wondering if you could hang in the same way,with the hanger in place and tight it is possible to twist the penis all the way around once,then you could hang with a fulcrum under the bottom of the shaft while sat on the edge of a chair.The poundages would need to be very light i would imagine.

Has this been done before and is it safe?

I have found out over the years that if you use a meat hook attached and screwed to the ceiling, then place a sheet of 4x8 chipboard on a jack so that the board is solidly bolted to the platform on the jack. Then lie on the board, and get the Mrs. to jack you up to the meat hook, tie a nice a piece of nylon rope to the end of you dick with the other end tied to the meat hook. Get the Mrs. to lower the jack, then ask her to twist you around several times until you the rope and you dick are nicely twisted, You can then shove your body into gyrations as your dick untwists, you will build up some momentum, as your body twists in the opposite direction, and untwists and twists again. After about ten minuets of twisting and untwisting your dick will feel elongated in length. But be warned this is not for the faint of heart, for you could end up with cobblerly wobbly permanently twisted cock.
 
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PA,

>Bib i no you have never hung this way but would appreciate your opinion,do you think this is pushing it to far.<

If you think you are pushing it too far, then you probably are. This is an intense technique, and you need to be careful. As you get more experience with it, you may be able to expand the stress. But learn what is good, and what is going too far.

Bigger
 
Quick update,at the 6 week mark and i'm going to keep going at this angle for a few more weeks.

Its very easy now to twist my shaft around the whole 360 and could easily get another half turn.

Doing 6x15 min sets 15.5lb first two 13lb second two and 11 for last two.

Still getting this full engorged girth post session,flaccid hand is great as well.

To be honest i'm a bit reluctant to change angles as i really like the feel i get from this.
 
Bib,no i havn't measured in a couple of months,going to wait till xmas and hopefully will see a good gain.

My wife has made several comments lately about my size which is very motivating.
 
Hey Prince Albert are you still bundle hanging? Did you have any results with it ? Ive been messing around with a few sets of bundle hanging recently with a very light weight. I seem to be hitting the ligs more then the tunica !Did that happened to you? Ive got a LOT of 6 but im feeling a lot of fatigue in the area above my fat pad to the point its very uncomfortable. What was your warping like? Cause ive got foreskin and I seem to be getting quite a bit of skin stretch a lil more then usual .
 
fightclub;605625 said:
This is one oldschool hardcore exercise, is anyone doing this ATM?

Twists or Bundles have been a huge parts of most PE exercises. They can be done manually, with a hanger or most powerfully with the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words]. They are one of the best ways to affect the Tunica and cause break down and deformation. The Tunica is very hard to stretch and twisting the penis allows for a easier way to cause stretch.
 
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