Gains don't come anymore... What now?

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Hi guys I really need your opinions, I've measured myself yesterday and disappointed to see that I didn't gain at all, not even one millimeter! I'm still 6.7 inches BPEL like last month even though my BPFSL did increase and now exactly 7 inches.
This is very frustrating because I've worked really hard, about 75 minutes a day 5 days a week, my hands are tired and so am I.
So I don't know what to do now, a few months ago I saw I don't gain girth so I gave up girth work in order to focus on length. Maybe now I need to take a break from length work and focus mostly on girth? Or maybe I should take a break from PE and focus more on FR?

What do you guys think? What should I do?
 
Ok looking at your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sig [/words]youve gained, so sit back and enjoy that for a few. Now youre at a plateau, it happens to all of us at some point or another, its just the way it is. Now you can break through it. Change up your routine.

Why not try some erect stretches instead of only flaccid?

Try the supra slammer

edge and enjoy a PE session rather than just busting your azz all the time

You can still do length but add in some girth to change it up. Just some options
 
Focusing on one thing at a time, length or girth, will definitely help. One month isn't that long either. Stay vigilant and keep hitting it. I would invest in a PE device if you don't have one yet.

What is FR?
 
I agree with the responses so far, but now it may be time to invest in a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words]...double the power with half the effort
 
You need to add on to the routine. the human body can adjust to things pretty fast, so shake the routine and add more time under tension!
 
I also suggest adding adevice like [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] for a [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words] or maybe hanging like sillwantmore2 suggested. Hands are free and very effective but something that can work you all day may be beneficial as you can slowly stretch all day long then still continue your manual routine at night time. Just what I'd look into.
 
Re-approach your routine. Make it more intense. I thought I couldn't gain past 2" in length...but recently I gained another quarter inch. It's amazing what just doing a routine with more intensity can do. Follow the ideals from [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?64036-My-Best-Work-Ever-Penis-Enlargement-will-Be-Changed-Forever-gt-gt-Gain%20inches%20with%20SRT-Theory-and-Routine]SRT[/words] and http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/penis-enlargement-forum/86546-key-to-gains-a-guide-a-debate.html
 
SRT is the fastest way to get there and the ideas given above fall in line with that, especially the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]Phallosan[/words], both of these tools have been really kicking ass for the Brothers. The other good thing is your goal is so close that I know you will get there in time, how much time is really dependent on the routine you decide on.
 
acromegaly;718161 said:
Focusing on one thing at a time, length or girth, will definitely help. One month isn't that long either. Stay vigilant and keep hitting it. I would invest in a PE device if you don't have one yet.

What is FR?
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Yeah I know it's best to give all the focus and energy on one thing at a time, that's why after I've focused on length for many months I want to change things up and focus on girth, and get back to focus on length in the future.
Sorry but I'm not going to buy a device, I don't have the money or privacy for it and I don't see myself wear something on my cock. Especially not now that I need less than 1 centimeter to achieve my length goal. Dear Neptune the last centimeter takes forever to gain>:( It was way easier before I've passed 6.5 inches.
FR is short for Foreskin Restoration. Basically my ultimate goal is a penis that is 7 inches length, at least 5.5 inches girth and has a long foreskin that covers half or more of my glans when erect. But I need to work on it more because I neglected it over the past few months.
seeking8.5x6;718160 said:
Ok looking at your [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]sig [/words]youve gained, so sit back and enjoy that for a few. Now youre at a plateau, it happens to all of us at some point or another, its just the way it is. Now you can break through it. Change up your routine.

Why not try some erect stretches instead of only flaccid?

Try the supra slammer

edge and enjoy a PE session rather than just busting your azz all the time

You can still do length but add in some girth to change it up. Just some options
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My hands are too tired now so I think you are right and I need to rest, enjoy and then change things up. I think the best thing for me to do now is to focus more on the things that I've neglected like girth work and FR. When I'll get back to focus on length I'll try new and more intense things. I'm not going to stop until I'll achieve my goal!
 
Maybe make a small investment into a hand exerciser to build up your hand strength if you are going to keep things manual. Captains of Crush hand grippers for example.
 
stillwantmore2;718282 said:
Maybe make a small investment into a hand exerciser to build up your hand strength if you are going to keep things manual. Captains of Crush hand grippers for example.
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That's a good advice, thanks man!
 
CoC grips are the truth. I have a #3 around here somewhere; sold my #1 and #2.

I'd consider an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] as well as a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] if I were in your situation. Either way, I feel that girth work and length work are synergistic. And I think it's a bad idea to ignore one for the other, as you won't get the best results if you neglect either, and they aid one another indirectly, but that's just one guys opinion.

You'll break through your plateau if you don't give up, one way or another you'll find a way out if you don't stop and try everything you can.
 
I agree with Rizz, I think we gain in all directions even if we concentrate on pulling or pumping...Mike wrote an article where about it Being more of a Balloon than a Rope. Good read and it made sense to me
 
Big Schwanz Acht;718345 said:
I agree with Rizz, I think we gain in all directions even if we concentrate on pulling or pumping...Mike wrote an article where about it Being more of a Balloon than a Rope. Good read and it made sense to me
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OK, just out of curiosity, can you find it and put a link?
 
rollfizzlebeef;718339 said:
CoC grips are the truth. I have a #3 around here somewhere; sold my #1 and #2.

I'd consider an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] as well as a [words=https://officialhydromaxpump.com/?uid=6&oid=2&affid=98]bathmate[/words] if I were in your situation. Either way, I feel that girth work and length work are synergistic. And I think it's a bad idea to ignore one for the other, as you won't get the best results if you neglect either, and they aid one another indirectly, but that's just one guys opinion.

You'll break through your plateau if you don't give up, one way or another you'll find a way out if you don't stop and try everything you can.
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you only use the #3? dang we got a big boy in the house
 
acromegaly;718359 said:
you only use the #3? dang we got a big boy in the house
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What's the last one, is it #4? I was into training grip strength for a while but don't care much anymore about it.
 
rollfizzlebeef;718363 said:
What's the last one, is it #4? I was into training grip strength for a while but don't care much anymore about it.
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yup number 4 is the hardest, nobody has got a certified close in over 12 years. im training for a record in something else grip related but i dont want to get to personal on here. grip strength is very good for a lot of stuff beyond stretching your dick, its good to have strong hands.
 
Used to get their catalogs in the mail; Ironmind, I think? I remember seeing Magnus Samuelson close one years ago.

Also read some research awhile back that among people of advanced age, grip strength is an indicator of life expectancy, or something to that effect.
 
acromegaly;718365 said:
yup number 4 is the hardest, nobody has got a certified close in over 12 years. im training for a record in something else grip related but i dont want to get to personal on here. grip strength is very good for a lot of stuff beyond stretching your dick, its good to have strong hands.
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Yeah its something kung fu related we no and is not gonna work
 
rollfizzlebeef;718368 said:
Used to get their catalogs in the mail; Ironmind, I think? I remember seeing Magnus Samuelson close one years ago.

Also read some research awhile back that among people of advanced age, grip strength is an indicator of life expectancy, or something to that effect.
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interesting where can i check that thanks
 
The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] makes up for any intensity loss from weak hands.
 
doublelongdaddy;718465 said:
The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] makes up for any intensity loss from weak hands.
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I would agree if you arnt looking to actually buy a device that you have to wear for hours the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] would be a amazing tool for stretching. Also can double as a hanger and it's waterproof so you can do it all in the shower for privacy if need be. I don't have one yet but it doesn't take a genius to be able o look at it and know the thing will work. Hopefully you find something that will work for you and break this plateau.
 
smitty2590;718494 said:
I would agree if you arnt looking to actually buy a device that you have to wear for hours the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] would be a amazing tool for stretching. Also can double as a hanger and it's waterproof so you can do it all in the shower for privacy if need be. I don't have one yet but it doesn't take a genius to be able o look at it and know the thing will work. Hopefully you find something that will work for you and break this plateau.
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Exactly true, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] is in no way and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], it is a tool to increase manual stretching by a massive amount. In addition it is a hanger and a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words]. This, all in one tool makes manual PE look like a wimp!
 
I think it's been said already, but I'd definitely get a hanger man. In periods of time when I focused on length I feel like hanging brought me all the length I was generally after at the time.
I can't really speak about comparing them to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] type devices, but hangers are cheaper in general if I'm not mistaken. There's I believe it is the male-hanger that is like 50 bucks. For real though if I could do 75 min. X 7 days of hanging id be able to make something freakishly long after some time I'm sure of it.
 
Bigjoe_2.0;718690 said:
I think it's been said already, but I'd definitely get a hanger man. In periods of time when I focused on length I feel like hanging brought me all the length I was generally after at the time.
I can't really speak about comparing them to [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] type devices, but hangers are cheaper in general if I'm not mistaken. There's I believe it is the male-hanger that is like 50 bucks. For real though if I could do 75 min. X 7 days of hanging id be able to make something freakishly long after some time I'm sure of it.
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The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] is also a hanger.
 
doublelongdaddy;718678 said:
Exactly true, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] is in no way and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], it is a tool to increase manual stretching by a massive amount. In addition it is a hanger and a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words]. This, all in one tool makes manual PE look like a wimp!
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It can be used as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all night stretcher[/words] IF you are not going out in public. I've heard a guy attach his [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] to his feet like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words]. This keeps constant stretching as long as you don't move too much. But [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] is mainly used for shorter sessions.
 
kyomoto;718912 said:
It can be used as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words] or [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]all night stretcher[/words] IF you are not going out in public. I've heard a guy attach his [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] to his feet like the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]power assist[/words]. This keeps constant stretching as long as you don't move too much. But [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]lengthmaster[/words] is mainly used for shorter sessions.
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I'd suggest caution with this method as you could cut off circulation and never even know it. This is why the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is praised so highly, its safe during sleep without the tradition risk. Regardless what route you decide to take as long as you stay dedicated you will start to see gains again it just will take some time. May even do sometime as simple as trying sleeves or wraps after your stretches are done to stay extended longer for healing purposes.
 
doublelongdaddy;718678 said:
Exactly true, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] is in no way and [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], it is a tool to increase manual stretching by a massive amount. In addition it is a hanger and a [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/join-now.html]PowerAssist[/words]. This, all in one tool makes manual PE look like a wimp!
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Has anyone every tried using it as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]? Like hanging with a very low weight and taking a break every 20-30 minutes and stretch in between?
 
Munto;718992 said:
Has anyone every tried using it as an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words]? Like hanging with a very low weight and taking a break every 20-30 minutes and stretch in between?
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In that sense it is an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], just kind of cumbersome but with privacy it is a perfect [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].
 
smitty2590;718977 said:
I'd suggest caution with this method as you could cut off circulation and never even know it. This is why the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is praised so highly, its safe during sleep without the tradition risk. Regardless what route you decide to take as long as you stay dedicated you will start to see gains again it just will take some time. May even do sometime as simple as trying sleeves or wraps after your stretches are done to stay extended longer for healing purposes.
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That's why the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is mainly used for short sets because you need to restore circulation. Good outlook smitty.
 
kyomoto;719085 said:
That's why the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] is mainly used for short sets because you need to restore circulation. Good outlook smitty.
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No problem kyomoto just want everyone to be safe in their gains.
 
smitty2590;718977 said:
I'd suggest caution with this method as you could cut off circulation and never even know it. This is why the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]phallosan[/words] is praised so highly, its safe during sleep without the tradition risk. Regardless what route you decide to take as long as you stay dedicated you will start to see gains again it just will take some time. May even do sometime as simple as trying sleeves or wraps after your stretches are done to stay extended longer for healing purposes.
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Did not see this and I agree.
 
doublelongdaddy;718997 said:
In that sense it is an [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words], just kind of cumbersome but with privacy it is a perfect [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ADS[/words].
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That privacy...

Well taking the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] off every 30-460min could be considered "cumbersome" depending on what you use as an attachment.
The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] might take a little bit longer, but you would probably get a "better" stretch
 
Munto;719409 said:
That privacy...

Well taking the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] off every 30-460min could be considered "cumbersome" depending on what you use as an attachment.
The [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LM[/words] might take a little bit longer, but you would probably get a "better" stretch
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I agree, the [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]LengthMaster[/words] would give much more intensity in this sense.
 
IAmSpartacus71 said:
Hi guys I really need your opinions, I've measured myself yesterday and disappointed to see that I didn't gain at all, not even one millimeter! I'm still 6.7 inches BPEL like last month even though my BPFSL did increase and now exactly 7 inches.
This is very frustrating because I've worked really hard, about 75 minutes a day 5 days a week, my hands are tired and so am I.
So I don't know what to do now, a few months ago I saw I don't gain girth so I gave up girth work in order to focus on length. Maybe now I need to take a break from length work and focus mostly on girth? Or maybe I should take a break from PE and focus more on FR?

What do you guys think? What should I do?
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Time to get yourself a length master
 
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