Do gains slow down as we grow or do we set ourselves up for this?

[DLD]

I have heard it said on many forums that gains will get slower and slower as we grow. I am challenging this notion as is may be in our heads. I think if we expect something to happen the chances of it happening are greater. In this case I think some guys gain an inch then expect the gains to slow because this is what so many say and ultimately they mentally slow their gains. For some this is a discouraging point and may cause some to quit. I have a completely different opinion on this.

I have always believed that the longer we become the easier it is to gain length. I think the added length allows for different exercise that was not possible at shorter lengths. I also like to look at the percentage of growth. If a guy with a 5" penis gains at 10% a year on average his second year will yield more gains based on his percentage of growth. I think the problem is in the routine not in the gain potential. I think periodically the routine needs to be re-evaluated and changed according to ones needs. I think giving up a routine that initially gave us great gains is hard sometimes but it needs to happen to stimulate new growth during a plateau.

I have changed my routine 4 times since I started Penis Enlargement. I did some minor tune-ups here and there but a major routine change happened 4 times. When I reached a plateau of more than a month or two I knew something needed to change. My new workout would be completely different then it's predecessor. I thought this necessary to continually shock my growth.

I am now fine tuning my forth workout (as some know it's been months in the making) My last plateau was at 10.5" erect and I am struggling now for that 11". For a while I was reserved to the thoughts of stagnation. I really started thinking that my gains are supposed to slow. It's an easy trap to fall into. I want my percentage of gains to remain consistent and this is a total mental and physical effort. Being positive and believing in myself is so important and will be my ticket beyond 11".

 

[hopefullybigger]

great post dld. i totally agree with you, this is true in many aspects of life.

 

[C-Guy]

Well my dr. has told me since i was 13 that i was wired up bassackwards. My gains if anything are improving. After i reached over 2 inches growth in lil over 3 months I completely changed routines. Most of the change was due to the accident with the hand. I really got pissed and was feeling sorry for myself and the gains completely stopped. few weeks back I decided it was now or never and plunged in full speed ahead. The gains are once again amazing. Don't think i will measure again till maybe Christmas. What a present to myself from myself (and all of you guys) i should be 7 1/4 -7 1/2 at that time. Quite an improvement from 4 1/2 in May this year.

 

[stillwantmore]

I think it's mental challenge as well. Look at all the guys who post about how "to gain an inch a year is GOOD" WTF is up with that crap? SMALL THINKING guys that's what it is about. You can gain what you want to gain within your bodys limits and within your determination to gain. The mindset that "gains will slow" is a very self limiting approach. You get out of Penis Enlargement just like out of life in general what you expect to get. If you accept or expect failure "oh well winning isnt everything" thats what you get.

 

[Gardenier90]

I think that if you begin to seriously doubt the effectiveness of Pe, that is when your gains slow. They slow because you lost faith and began to slack off on your exercises.

 

[stillwantmore]

Originally posted by Gardenier90
I think that if you begin to seriously doubt the effectiveness of Pe, that is when your gains slow. They slow because you lost faith and began to slack off on your exercises.

YEP, another great point there. I've talked to several guys having problems gaining over the years, including myself.....yes myself and I talk sometimes and most of the time they admit to not putting in the work they should be to see the results they desire.

 

[ebon00]

Originally posted by stillwantmore
Look at all the guys who post about how "to gain an inch a year is GOOD"

I'd be happy to gain an inch every year... in girth. Since skepticism is the most common attitude towards Penis Enlargement many people don't, can't or won't put in the hours (I've had some problems lately myself), and then the lack of gains is just "normal". I personally haven't gained that much (roughly 1.6" in length) but I've only spent 8 months on active Penis Enlargement.

The point about gains allowing access to new techniques/variations is a good one but seems to work mostly for length. What can be regarded as a "new technique" for girth work once you gain there? A two-handed jelq? (When you can no longer fit your hand around your base...

 

[Beregond]

As a bodybuilder, I can confirm that everything you've said, DLD, is true. I used to limit myself so much by buying into all the dogmas: you can't grow past a certain age; you can't overcome bad genetics; you can't get big arms if they are too long; etc., etc. And yet here I am, at an age when I "should" be past it, growing everyday, and looking better than I ever have. I intend to think of Penis Enlargement as just another aspect of bodybuilding, and just KEEP ON GROWING! If you apply the right stress to any bodypart, it has to adapt; why shouldn't that be true of the penis? It's just a matter of changing programs and throwing new stuff at it, so it can't stagnate. Of course, it helps to have a great "trainer" and we've got you!

 

[Dino9x7]

I work harder now and get less in return, I'm definally not slacking. Hanging has kicked in a new growth spurt for me. I got most of my gains doing less but as I went on I had to keep on adding to my workout in order to get a growth return. Maybe I could see as a guy gets bigger he is less driven than he once was, thats true on my part but I still keep going.

I know now I have to fight for each and every dick haired size gain I get.


Dino

 

[WaxN]

Originally posted by Dino9x7
I work harder now and get less in return, I'm definally not slacking. Hanging has kicked in a new growth spurt for me. I got most of my gains doing less but as I went on I had to keep on adding to my workout in order to get a growth return. Maybe I could see as a guy gets bigger he is less driven than he once was, thats true on my part but I still keep going.

I know now I have to fight for each and every dick haired size gain I get.

Dino

I agree that lessening motivation, resulting in less work, can cause gains to slow....but that's not always the case. The simple - and, yes, undeniable - fact is this: The closer we get to our genetic potential (in any endeavor), the tougher it is to make progress.
Again, why could a beginning weight trainee add 50 lbs to a particular lift (say, the benchpress) in only 6-8 weeks; yet, the world-record holder in a given weight class might only add 5-10 lbs - in an entire year! If he adds anything. He might never duplicate his lift again (at least in that weight class), then somebody else comes along eventually and sets a new mark. And, ironically, the world-record holder knows a helluva lot more about weight training than the beginner, but it just doesn't matter.
DLD knows there is truth behind this, since his present gains are not as fast as his early gains - yet DLD still wants 13.6" NBP, so he's still looking for another 2.5-3" or so. If gains don't slow, he should get that last 3" as quickly as he got his first 3 inches.

 

[huge-girth]

I have heard it said on many forums that gains will get slower and slower as we grow. I am challenging this notion as is may be in our heads. I think if we expect something to happen the chances of it happening are greater. In this case I think some guys gain an inch then expect the gains to slow because this is what so many say and ultimately they mentally slow their gains. For some this is a discouraging point and may cause some to quit. I have a completely different opinion on this.

I have always believed that the longer we become the easier it is to gain length. I think the added length allows for different exercise that was not possible at shorter lengths. I also like to look at the percentage of growth. If a guy with a 5" penis gains at 10% a year on average his second year will yield more gains based on his percentage of growth. I think the problem is in the routine not in the gain potential. I think periodically the routine needs to be re-evaluated and changed according to ones needs. I think giving up a routine that initially gave us great gains is hard sometimes but it needs to happen to stimulate new growth during a plateau.

I have changed my routine 4 times since I started Penis Enlargement. I did some minor tune-ups here and there but a major routine change happened 4 times. When I reached a plateau of more than a month or two I knew something needed to change. My new workout would be completely different then it's predecessor. I thought this necessary to continually shock my growth.

I am now fine tuning my forth workout (as some know it's been months in the making) My last plateau was at 10.5" erect and I am struggling now for that 11". For a while I was reserved to the thoughts of stagnation. I really started thinking that my gains are supposed to slow. It's an easy trap to fall into. I want my percentage of gains to remain consistent and this is a total mental and physical effort. Being positive and believing in myself is so important and will be my ticket beyond 11".

I change my routine every 3 months. It's the best thing you can do in this case.

 

[DLD]

I change my routine every 3 months. It's the best thing you can do in this case.

Every 90 days is a good deal of time. But I would also say that if you are still gaining with what you are doing continue on that path until there is a plateau.

 

[huge-girth]

Every 90 days is a good deal of time. But I would also say that if you are still gaining with what you are doing continue on that path until there is a plateau.

I was gaining with the bundled downward stretches until I switched to bundled [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] rolls. At least I have the option of going back to the downward bundled stretches and still make some gains. But let me keep on changing my routine every 90 days. After 9 months, the remaining 3 months to complete one year, I intend doing all the exercises I did in the 9 months period daily for the remaining 3 months.

 

[DLD]

I was gaining with the bundled downward stretches until I switched to bundled [words=http://www.mattersofsize.com/forum/showthread.php?83577-Length-master-official-order-thread-now-shipping-06-16-2014!!!]length master[/words] rolls. At least I have the option of going back to the downward bundled stretches and still make some gains. But let me keep on changing my routine every 90 days. After 9 months, the remaining 3 months to complete one year, I intend doing all the exercises I did in the 9 months period daily for the remaining 3 months.

You can also change up how you are training, time, reps, order, this will also help things keep a moving factor.

 

[huge-girth]

You can also change up how you are training, time, reps, order, this will also help things keep a moving factor.

I've been holding each stretch for about 1 minutes 20 seconds.

 

[DLD]

I've been holding each stretch for about 1 minutes 20 seconds.

Hold for as long as your intensity is strong. 30 second, 60 seconds, whatever. As long as there is intensity the stretch can go on for a great deal of time. I find that after 60 seconds I lose some strength and then I rest and start a new rep.

 

[huge-girth]

Hold for as long as your intensity is strong. 30 second, 60 seconds, whatever. As long as there is intensity the stretch can go on for a great deal of time. I find that after 60 seconds I lose some strength and then I rest and start a new rep.

Same with me, I re-adjust my hands most times and I do get tired hands some times but it's all part of the process to make gains.

 

[DLD]

Same with me, I re-adjust my hands most times and I do get tired hands some times but it's all part of the process to make gains.

As we progress we will need to implement much much more intense methods to keep growth going. Once you make an inch gain in any direction you realize PE works you will make you best gains but as time progresses intensity and change will keep you from a plateau.

 

[huge-girth]

As we progress we will need to implement much much more intense methods to keep growth going. Once you make an inch gain in any direction you realize PE works you will make you best gains but as time progresses intensity and change will keep you from a plateau.

Yes that's right and that's why I'm looking for ways to get an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to intensify my routine.

 

[DLD]

Yes that's right and that's why I'm looking for ways to get an [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extender[/words] to intensify my routine.

We also have those other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] coming in hopefully this month we were working on last year.

 

[huge-girth]

We also have those other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] coming in hopefully this month we were working on last year.

Other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]? Are other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] coming apart from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] which we already have and the penilmasterpro which will be arriving this month?

 

[DLD]

Other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words]? Are other [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]extenders[/words] coming apart from the [words=https://shop.mattersofsize.com/products/sizegenetics-penis-extender]SG[/words] which we already have and the penilmasterpro which will be arriving this month?

Yes the one that Stillwantmore tested last year. We have a small order coming soon.

 

[huge-girth]

Yes the one that Stillwantmore tested last year. We have a small order coming soon.

Alright

 

[huge-girth]

If you choose to do PE consistently for 10 years on a daily basis or 5 times a week, you will realize that there is no limit to how much length gains that can be made.

 

[LONGERDICK7+]

10 years non stop wow, the amount of gains experience,etc enlarging every day would be huge

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I agree with your statement. I'm pretty new to this. And I feel like you need to keep at it, and never give up to see some results.

What I regret is, that I didn't started with a penis extender like the PHALLOSAN forte, instead of the Bathmate pumps. Don't get me wrong, the Bathmate pumps they are awesome.

But I'm now to thick (~5,5" in girth when 100% erected), so the PHALLOSAN forte does not work for me.

I have gains from 5" in length to, 6" in length (fully erected). Now it feels lile a plateau. Do you/or someone else have any tips for me.

Is there any PE equipment/extender out there you can sleep with (or something else), that works for a girthy penis?
It's to bad I can't use the PHALLOSAN forte if your glands are over 4,1 cm (1,6") in diameter, or: 5,1 inches in circumference, the PHALLOSAN forte does not work.

Maybe this is the wrong place to discuss this. Maybe there exist a tread for this already. If so, please direct me there.
Kind regards.

 

[huge-girth]

I agree with your statement. I'm pretty new to this. And I feel like you need to keep at it, and never give up to see some results.

What I regret is, that I didn't started with a penis extender like the PHALLOSAN forte, instead of the Bathmate pumps. Don't get me wrong, the Bathmate pumps they are awesome.

But I'm now to thick (~5,5" in girth when 100% erected), so the PHALLOSAN forte does not work for me.

I have gains from 5" in length to, 6" in length (fully erected). Now it feels lile a plateau. Do you/or someone else have any tips for me.

Is there any PE equipment/extender out there you can sleep with (or something else), that works for a girthy penis?
It's to bad I can't use the PHALLOSAN forte if your glands are over 4,1 cm (1,6") in diameter, or: 5,1 inches in circumference, the PHALLOSAN forte does not work.

Maybe this is the wrong place to discuss this. Maybe there exist a tread for this already. If so, please direct me there.
Kind regards.

You can buy the length master and use it for 40mins to 1 hour daily. You can as well buy the SiliStretcher. Have you checked out the SiliStretcher?

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

You can buy the length master and use it for 40mins to 1 hour daily. You can as well buy the SiliStretcher. Have you checked out the SiliStretcher?

No I'm not familiar with any of these.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I have looked them up now.
Lengthmaster 3. Seams interesting.

But I don't think the SiliStretcher is going to work. Now when using the Bathmate pumps daily, my penis girth is 5" flaccid and 5,5" erected. I got the PHALLOSAN forte and it didn't work, extremely disappointing.
If I would redo my PE journey I would have started with PHALLOSAN forte or SiliStretcher, then after I got some length to my penis starting to use the Bathmate.

I think I will stick with Bathmate pumps (I got 3 of them) and Jelqing for a while now, It seems to work.


Thanks for everything.

 

[huge-girth]

I have looked them up now.View attachment 1832375
Lengthmaster 3. Seams interesting.

But I don't think the SiliStretcher is going to work. Now when using the Bathmate pumps daily, my penis girth is 5" flaccid and 5,5" erected. I got the PHALLOSAN forte and it didn't work, extremely disappointing.
If I would redo my PE journey I would have started with PHALLOSAN forte or SiliStretcher, then after I got some length to my penis starting to use the Bathmate.

I think I will stick with Bathmate pumps (I got 3 of them) and Jelqing for a while now, It seems to work.


Thanks for everything.

Get the length master and combine it with jelqing and pumping.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Get the length master and combine it with jelqing and pumping.

Thanks! I will do that.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I have always believed that the longer we become the easier it is to gain length.

This is so true. This have been my experience as well.
As you become longer you will start to gain at a faster rate/or gain steady at the same rate (with the correct program).
For example you can bundle more and get a deeper stretch when you are longer.... == faster growth (or the same growth).

I'm so happy there are brothers out there, that believes this as well.

Post #1 made me so happy to read. Ever since I came in here, there have been a resistens to this. There is a myth out there and brothers are slowing other brothers down, when they spread this incorrect paradigm.

Telling others that their rate of growth, will slow down will not make anything better.

I was almost trapped in this paradigm myself. I'm so happy I disregarded it all, and walked my own way.

Why should the gains slow down, it's exactly the same tissue?

 

[oldandlively]

Most don't believe in hard work and expect fast gains through minimal efforts. Too much expectations on false promises from snake oil salesmen. When the results did not arrive, incomplete result campaigns started to spread.

@squirt_inducer_man is a great example of hard fast gains from true blood, sweat, and struggles. Once you program your body to gain and maintain the efforts in a consistent phase, the gain will continue at the same rate or higher. Our physiology evolved to be malleable, be of the internal organs, skeletal, or muscles-skin. If our bodies are not malleable, humans would have been extinct long ago. Our penis is the same.

Think about this, and I hope it opens the brother's eyes just a bit. In different region of the world, each specific ethnicity has a penile length limit. Think about our brothers in cultures with females who thrive to increase fat to the rear regions, comparing cultures to females who thrive on survival by being small, large (as in warrior type), or even those who live on floating villages in the middle of the ocean and high up in elevation. Have you been paying attention to the male's genetalia as a whole? Ahhhh...

Quite a few men who thrived to pass on their genetics in those competitive cultures pushed hard to ensure proper display of their manhood, virility, and satisfy the women through proper amount of sexual stimulation and penetration. I studied ancient civilizations and over and over again, each culture has specific requirements for their PE in a large portion of the culture. Most info was considered a taboo based on restrictions, but so much details recorded in private archives about PE.

Something to think about when the brothers only listen to the phrase "it's about the motion of the ocean" partial truth.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

I'm happy that more and more brothers, are starting to disprove this destructive myth/paradigm.

This myth/paradigm are playing tricks on our minds. If we believe that gains will slow down, there is a high probability that this will also happen. Often we need to see something, before we can make it a reality.

Penis Enlargement are both a physical and a psychological "game".

 

[DLD]

At 1 time I thought that 8 / 6 would be the biggest I could. But thank God for the length master and bundled stretching. I was able to surpass this big time.

 

[oldandlively]

8x6. Would love to scare my woman, or make her smiles with glee, in a year or two. Bring it on!

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

8x6. Would love to scare my woman, or make her smiles with glee, in a year or two. Bring it on!

You will make it happen.

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

At 1 time I thought that 8 / 6 would be the biggest I could. But thank God for the length master and bundled stretching. I was able to surpass this big time.

You just have to love the lengthmaster!

 

[orgasmic19]

I have always believed that the longer we become the easier it is to gain length. I think the added length allows for different exercise that was not possible at shorter lengths.

Funny I was thinking this the other day. Solid

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Good!
Now this myth (a widely held but false belief or idea) is busted.

 

[DLD]

Good!
Now this myth (a widely held but false belief or idea) is busted.

Anything we see in p o r n is definitely an exaggeration and not true to what average size is

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

Anything we see in p o r n is definitely an exaggeration and not true to what average size is

This was not about that.

The myth is about that length gains will slow down, but it is not true if you follow SRT and have good programming. It's just some psychological wall we need to get rid of, in order to gain big.

Saying that your gains will slow down after +1 Inch BPEL increase, is not fair to new members.

 

[oldandlively]

Anything we see in p o r n is definitely an exaggeration and not true to what average size is

Exactly. But at the same time, average is now being dismissed as long term ideal and need to further pursue as an ambitious determination for self improvement. Do you want drive an average 20 year old cars all your life, or step forward and grab something that has more go-go power to get your blood boiling again? You want an average body build or become stronger to get a renewed perspective in life? Average. A word used by those with no drives and like to coast. Improvement/Enhancement. A word used by those who still the drives to achieve greatness.

 

[Grandmaster]

This was not about that.

The myth is about that length gains will slow down, but it is not true if you follow SRT and have good programming. It's just some psychological wall we need to get rid of, in order to gain big.

Saying that your gains will slow down after +1 Inch BPEL increase, is not fair to new members.

It's not that gains "slow down". There's this phenomenon in PE where guys tend to gain quicker in the beginning of their careers relative to their rate of gain afterwards, which I would define to be the true rate of gain.

There are countless testimonials of guys gaining 0.5 - 1 inch in less than two months initially. At a steady rate, that would equate to about 6 inches of gains in BPEL in only one year, which is absolutely impossible - I do not care what anyone says!

So it is not that gains slow down; it is just that initial gains tend to come quicker. After that, I see no reason why gains couldn't come at a steady rate with dedication, consistency, and a solid program.

 

[DLD]

If people stop because of a slow in their gains their failures

 

[Grandmaster]

If people stop because of a slow in their gains their failures

It just gets "harder" after the quick newbie gains that almost everyone gets, myself included. I gained about 3/4" in my first couple of months and was ecstatic. Ask me to do that now, lol! If it were possible to maintain that rate of growth, that would equate to 4.5" in BPEL in only one year. So, basically, I would be able to achieve in a single year what took you over 10 years to achieve. How realistic is that?

But that doesn't mean that you cannot have consistent gains throughout your career. It just means that your rate of gain will be smaller relative to your rate of gain initially (newbie gains).

 

[squirt_inducer_man]

It just gets "harder" after the quick newbie gains that almost everyone gets, myself included. I gained about 3/4" in my first couple of months and was ecstatic. Ask me to do that now, LOL! If it were possible to maintain that rate of growth, that would equate to 4.5" in BPEL in only one year. So, basically, I would be able to achieve in a single year what took you over 10 years to achieve. How realistic is that?

But that doesn't mean that you cannot have consistent gains throughout your career. It just means that your rate of gain will be smaller relative to your rate of gain initially (newbie gains).

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Fast growth are possible, do not limit yourself or impose limits on this brotherhood, I will not allow that.
Imposing limits on other members are not fair to them. Imagine becoming a member here, and now everyone are telling you that after your first Inch increase in BPEL, the gains are going to come slower, and it will get harder. This scenario happened to me, and it was a real challenge in a psychological way. It was really hard, and it was not fair in any way to me, not fair at all. I do not want any other member to feel like this.

If I would have believed in the limits that was imposed on me when I became a member here at MoS, I would not have gowned this much as I did grew within 1 year.

This was the limitations that was imposed on me:

3 months length 0.25"-0.5 "
6 months length 0.75"-1"
1 year length 1"-2"
3 months girth 0.25"
6 months girth 0.5"
1 year girth 0.75"-1"

Note this is incremental and the measurements for each month or year.

I ended up smashing the expectations when it came to length gains (in: Bone Pressed Length).
I even used this list above as motivation.

It just gets "harder" after the quick newbie gains that almost everyone gets, myself included.

I do not agree with you here. I also did my best to not misquote you. I hope I succeeded.

For me the entire process of increasing my penis length have been very hard, nothing have been easy.
I even punctured my glans during one session with the LengthMaster 3.
If you do not increase your intensity in an exponential way you will get stuck in plateaus....that is 100% for sure.
You can not do the beginner routine forever and aspect to gain length at the same rate. Maybe this is what you are referring to when you say:

It just gets "harder" after the quick newbie gains that almost everyone gets, myself included.

LengthMaster 3, change the game for length gains.
With that device you will make sure that you will never get stuck in plateaus.

This post has nothing to do about a personal matter, and when we are discussing these kind of things we should put our EGO in a box.
I just have to tell the brotherhood about how it really feels like, when other members are trying to impose their limitations on you.
It doesn't feel good at all.

Thank you for reading!

 

[DLD]

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Fast growth are possible, do not limit yourself or impose limits on this brotherhood, I will not allow that.
Imposing limits on other members are not fair to them. Imagine becoming a member here, and now everyone are telling you that after your first Inch increase in BPEL, the gains are going to come slower, and it will get harder. This scenario happened to me, and it was a real challenge in a psychological way. It was really hard, and it was not fair in any way to me, not fair at all. I do not want any other member to feel like this.

If I would have believed in the limits that was imposed on me when I became a member here at MoS, I would not have gowned this much as I did grew within 1 year.

This was the limitations that was imposed on me:


I ended up smashing the expectations when it came to length gains (in: Bone Pressed Length).
I even used this list above as motivation.


I do not agree with you here. I also did my best to not misquote you. I hope I succeeded.

For me the entire process of increasing my penis length have been very hard, nothing have been easy.
I even punctured my glans during one session with the LengthMaster 3.
If you do not increase your intensity in an exponential way you will get stuck in plateaus....that is 100% for sure.
You can not do the beginner routine forever and aspect to gain length at the same rate. Maybe this is what you are referring to when you say:


LengthMaster 3, change the game for length gains.
With that device you will make sure that you will never get stuck in plateaus.

This post has nothing to do about a personal matter, and when we are discussing these kind of things we should put our EGO in a box.
I just have to tell the brotherhood about how it really feels like, when other members are trying to impose their limitations on you.
It doesn't feel good at all.

Thank you for reading!

My exact advice

 

[Grandmaster]

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Fast growth are possible, do not limit yourself or impose limits on this brotherhood, I will not allow that.
Imposing limits on other members are not fair to them. Imagine becoming a member here, and now everyone are telling you that after your first Inch increase in BPEL, the gains are going to come slower, and it will get harder. This scenario happened to me, and it was a real challenge in a psychological way. It was really hard, and it was not fair in any way to me, not fair at all. I do not want any other member to feel like this.

If I would have believed in the limits that was imposed on me when I became a member here at MoS, I would not have gowned this much as I did grew within 1 year.

This was the limitations that was imposed on me:


I ended up smashing the expectations when it came to length gains (in: Bone Pressed Length).
I even used this list above as motivation.


I do not agree with you here. I also did my best to not misquote you. I hope I succeeded.

For me the entire process of increasing my penis length have been very hard, nothing have been easy.
I even punctured my glans during one session with the LengthMaster 3.
If you do not increase your intensity in an exponential way you will get stuck in plateaus....that is 100% for sure.
You can not do the beginner routine forever and aspect to gain length at the same rate. Maybe this is what you are referring to when you say:


LengthMaster 3, change the game for length gains.
With that device you will make sure that you will never get stuck in plateaus.

This post has nothing to do about a personal matter, and when we are discussing these kind of things we should put our EGO in a box.
I just have to tell the brotherhood about how it really feels like, when other members are trying to impose their limitations on you.
It doesn't feel good at all.

Thank you for reading!

Seems like @kyomoto was imposing limits on you. I did not give anyone any such "limits", nor did I try to discourage people in any way. Any reasonable person who read what I wrote would agree.

My whole thesis is that newbie gains generally come faster. What exactly is discouraging about that? And where have I imposed any limits in saying that?

You need to stop taking things too personal, bro. You seem to be the one with the ego, not me. You are the only one who is thinking along these lines, that my input is somehow bad for this community. You know what? If you don't like the opinions I share, then as an administrator on this site, you can delete them, and even ban me if you please.

But please don't waste my time with your bullshit that I am trying to "discourage" people by "imposing limits on them", when I did nothing of the sort.

I do, however, think that it is unreasonable to expect gains of 4.5" - 6" in one year. I do not believe it is even physiologically possible. NOW, if that is your definition of discouraging and imposing limits on people, then I don't know what to tell you. I think most people here would agree with that statement.

Let's do a little experiment, shall we? Let's put all the bullshut to rest and talk facts, because I am tired of this back-and-forth pissing contest with you, which you like to create for some reason.

Do us all a favor. Recently, in another post, you claimed gains of 3+ inches in BPEL. You must have made those gains in less than a year, because it hasn't been that long since @huge-girth coached you, when you were only 5 inches.

So, take a BPEL measurement now, and post it somewhere. Then, in another year from now, if you can show another 3+ inch gain for a total of 11+ inches in BPEL, I promise you I will never, EVER question you about anything in regards to PE. I promise.

The burden is on you to prove your claims. I wish you all the best.

 

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Seems like @kyomoto was imposing limits on you. I did not give anyone any such "limits", nor did I try to discourage people in any way. Any reasonable person who read what I wrote would agree.

My whole thesis is that newbie gains generally come faster. What exactly is discouraging about that? And where have I imposed any limits in saying that?

You need to stop taking things too personal, bro. You seem to be the one with the ego, not me. You are the only one who is thinking along these lines, that my input is somehow bad for this community. You know what? If you don't like the opinions I share, then as an administrator on this site, you can delete them, and even ban me if you please.

But please don't waste my time with your bullshit that I am trying to "discourage" people by "imposing limits on them", when I did nothing of the sort.

I do, however, think that it is unreasonable to expect gains of 4.5" - 6" in one year. I do not believe it is even physiologically possible. NOW, if that is your definition of discouraging and imposing limits on people, then I don't know what to tell you. I think most people here would agree with that statement.

Let's do a little experiment, shall we? Let's put all the bullshut to rest and talk facts, because I am tired of this back-and-forth pissing contest with you, which you like to create for some reason.

Do us all a favor. Recently, in another post, you claimed gains of 3+ inches in BPEL. You must have made those gains in less than a year, because it hasn't been that long since @huge-girth coached you, when you were only 5 inches.

So, take a BPEL measurement now, and post it somewhere. Then, in another year from now, if you can show another 3+ inch gain for a total of 11+ inches in BPEL, I promise you I will never, EVER question you about anything in regards to PE. I promise.

The burden is on you to prove your claims. I wish you all the best.

Again I agree