I need to know what the best protien is. i am currently only consuming about 1800 caloriues a day to lose weight and working out and doing 30 minutes a day cardio. I was wondering what I shoud take I have been taking Muscletech but wanted to know what the best is and if I shoud take a mass gainer for the calories. i was looking at BSN true mass but wanted all of you guys thoughts first. Thanks
Best protien there is
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
I think its best manufacturer names and brands stay out of this thread and rather one concentrates on the TYPenis Enlargement of protein. I always liked, rate highly from results egg protein, milk protein and obviously proteins from meats. Dessicated beef liver is fantastic aswell. Egg powder can be purchased cheaply by various supplement companies as a protein powder and the liver caps are also around.
Protein that works best for the human body to be taken up into the system and used is stuff that is more natural then manufactured, so think that when you decide which to go for. I suggest stay well clear of the fancy bullshit brands around the industry claiming alsorts of shit and having sports people especially bloated bodybuilders endorsing a product. Usually the tried and tested old school stuff is the best but not necessarily the one that sells the most as it looks and sounds boring but who gives a shit if it works so well.
Whey Protein is a good one but many get sucked in with the QUALITY such as 80% and 90% .. truth be told from studies I have seen it makes no difference in quality of protein, its the amount of it that can be digested and used in that particular sitting that is important, which is why the protein should be organic such as eggs and liver.
Protein that works best for the human body to be taken up into the system and used is stuff that is more natural then manufactured, so think that when you decide which to go for. I suggest stay well clear of the fancy bullshit brands around the industry claiming alsorts of shit and having sports people especially bloated bodybuilders endorsing a product. Usually the tried and tested old school stuff is the best but not necessarily the one that sells the most as it looks and sounds boring but who gives a shit if it works so well.
Whey Protein is a good one but many get sucked in with the QUALITY such as 80% and 90% .. truth be told from studies I have seen it makes no difference in quality of protein, its the amount of it that can be digested and used in that particular sitting that is important, which is why the protein should be organic such as eggs and liver.
Thanks RED, I have always wondered about all that big name stuff. i heard that they are the ones that actually own the muscle magazines where you see all the [words=http://www.phallosan.com/shop/catalog/default.php?z=eNortjIxtVKyL0pNszWxMFcrSSxKTy2JL0hMT7U1UisoykyxtbBQSy4tLsnPjS8uKcrMS7dVsgZcMMpbEbo%2C]ads[/words]. Where can i find the egg powder and the liver caps that you are talking about? I want the best stuff for my body as I have had a kidney transplant and take a lot of medicines for that and I can only take so much protien a day. i talked to my nephrologist and he said for me to stay at arounf 180 or so a day.
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
Yes its best to learn about it all and be safe as-well. We have a thread HERE that has various supplement suppliers incl ones that just deal in no thrills stuff that doesn't have all the fancy crap added to it. If your in the IS and want the old school style then http://www.vincegironda-nsp.com/ is really good. Vince Gironda an old time bodybuilder and more famously a trainer of the stars and winners in the BB field back during the 50's-70's and later. Deceased now but his legacy lasts. Checkout his products, they sell protein the old way. The guy who runs it now was a friend of Vince's and is very helpful.
Hope that all helps. You can chat to him if you like about the kidney issue because he is well versed in that area and no full of shit, has no hidden agenda either.
Hope that all helps. You can chat to him if you like about the kidney issue because he is well versed in that area and no full of shit, has no hidden agenda either.
keepingitbig
Active member
Vince Gironda is the man! Love his fitness stuff. He was a hard-ass, but he'll blast your behind in shape. I always like isolate for post-workout along with banana. Healthy enough spike.
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
No worries. Glad it helped, also consider contacting the site owner he is really helpful.
REDZULU2003
Well-known member
I consume my own cum and have done for many years no joke. See nothing wrong with it and never bothers me and infact I know from the taste or texture if something is wrong with me i.e run down, fatigued, stressed. I think a good chef needs to taste his own food before its served to the customer 
customer in many cases being a womens hungry mouth! or in some cases another mans hungry hole.
customer in many cases being a womens hungry mouth! or in some cases another mans hungry hole.MrMister1;453373 said:
If you're trying to lose weight why are you thinking of taking a mass gainer? You should be reducing your calories not increasing them. Protein is the last thing you should worry about on a weight loss diet, concentrate on eating healthy clean carbs and reduce your fat and sugar content, less meat, less dairy, they all contain loads of calories, calories are your enemy when trying to lose weight.
Eat some dead animal, best protein there is.
This man has done the most thorough research on dietary protein in relation to sports/bodybuilding yet (The Protein Book)
Most all your questions relating the topic will be answered here:Protein articles
(If you need more you're gonna have to buy the book
)
But to get to the heart of the matter:
When you're consuming adequate quantities of whole(animal) proteins, it really doesn't matter if it's fish/chicken/dairy pork or beef.
1. Get adequate quantities
2. Get some variety
3. The rest doesn't really matter.
Most all your questions relating the topic will be answered here:Protein articles
(If you need more you're gonna have to buy the book
)But to get to the heart of the matter:
When you're consuming adequate quantities of whole(animal) proteins, it really doesn't matter if it's fish/chicken/dairy pork or beef.
1. Get adequate quantities
2. Get some variety
3. The rest doesn't really matter.
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Best protein comes from animals and animal eggs.
Some are better than others, not for their protein value but because of other elements. For example, hunted game is better than free range organic which is better than free range or organic, which is better than stuff you get in the super market, which is better than stuff you get served at the fast food joint ... not because of the amino acid breakdown but because of what you're actually eating. Same thing goes for eggs.
Fish are awesome and all contain great protein, some contain other awesome things too, fats etc, and some contain bad shit like mercury. So there are some that are better than other, but not necessarily based on the protein.
There's a hell of a lot more to building muscle than eating protein so what you eat, the overall nutritional value and your own body should all be evaluated.
For example, some people can drink milk and get protein from it, same with say oats, but if I was to eat those things I'd be sick and for the large period of my life where I consumed milk and oats without being 'sick' I was a skinny bitch. Once I cut all that shit out and ate properly I gained 10% body weight, lost bitch fat and came back to the weights room stronger (that's in a 6 month period of no weightlifting). So, if you're looking to grow there's a hell of a lot more to it than protein.
If you're talking about protein supplements, again, I can't and won't drink whey, casein, or any of that shit. In fact, in the US it's hard for me to find good protein supplements that aren't sweetened to shit. I rate pea protein as the best (for me) followed by hemp then brown rice. Of course, eggs (actual eggs or free range egg white from the likes of bulkpowders) are even better.
Just my 2c
Some are better than others, not for their protein value but because of other elements. For example, hunted game is better than free range organic which is better than free range or organic, which is better than stuff you get in the super market, which is better than stuff you get served at the fast food joint ... not because of the amino acid breakdown but because of what you're actually eating. Same thing goes for eggs.
Fish are awesome and all contain great protein, some contain other awesome things too, fats etc, and some contain bad shit like mercury. So there are some that are better than other, but not necessarily based on the protein.
There's a hell of a lot more to building muscle than eating protein so what you eat, the overall nutritional value and your own body should all be evaluated.
For example, some people can drink milk and get protein from it, same with say oats, but if I was to eat those things I'd be sick and for the large period of my life where I consumed milk and oats without being 'sick' I was a skinny bitch. Once I cut all that shit out and ate properly I gained 10% body weight, lost bitch fat and came back to the weights room stronger (that's in a 6 month period of no weightlifting). So, if you're looking to grow there's a hell of a lot more to it than protein.
If you're talking about protein supplements, again, I can't and won't drink whey, casein, or any of that shit. In fact, in the US it's hard for me to find good protein supplements that aren't sweetened to shit. I rate pea protein as the best (for me) followed by hemp then brown rice. Of course, eggs (actual eggs or free range egg white from the likes of bulkpowders) are even better.
Just my 2c